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A prophetic quote from the Rolling Stone review of Homework: quote:"the duo's essential, career-defining insight is that the problem with disco the first time around was not that it was stupid but that it was not stupid enough."
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I keep hearing "this isn't dance music" but I can seriously groove to at least half of these songs. Even Get Lucky, which I'm pretty burned out on, is very easy to get the feet moving in step to. It's not four-to-the-floor hosue music, no, but For fucks sake that's a boring style of music and it hasn't been interesting since, well, Homework. Daft Punk took a handful of old styles, added their special brand of french cheese, and modernized things a bit. Pharell could have been left out of the album but otherwise this is a very good album and if my fat rear end can get up and dance to this, the people in here who are more than likely way more fit than me shouldn't have a goddam issue. Saying it's not a dance album, jesus. It's not a modern dance album. It's not house. It's not beep boop club house music, but it is dance music, and the kind I've personally been expecting and waiting for ever since they started teasing Get Lucky.
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hemophilia posted:I keep hearing "this isn't dance music" but I can seriously groove to at least half of these songs. Even Get Lucky, which I'm pretty burned out on, is very easy to get the feet moving in step to. It's hard to get this excited for disco for a lot of us.
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# ? May 14, 2013 09:50 |
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i don't think it's dance music because it doesn't really make me want to dance (with the exception of a few songs). breakbot made a far more "dance-y" modern french disco album just this year.
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# ? May 14, 2013 09:56 |
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Is this the buildup to Disco Demolition Night 2013? Everyone's gonna hurt Nile Rodgers feelings and make him compare Disco haters to the Nazis all over again?
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# ? May 14, 2013 10:00 |
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As someone who loves Discovery, thinks Human After All has its merits, but has no time for Homework, I think this is an excellent album. I fuckin love easy listening future disco. I've used up half my month's data allowance streaming the album all day over 3G so I'm also an idiot.
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# ? May 14, 2013 10:08 |
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Finally remembered what the quote in Contact is from. It's parts of a conversation spliced together about Apollo stage cast-offs Google Books link. But you see it quoted a lot by UFOlogists and other conspiracy nutters because of the spliced track released decades ago.
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# ? May 14, 2013 10:46 |
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Just read Billboard's review. They didn't really care too much for "Giorgio by Morodor", so I don't really care too much for their review. quote:3. Giorgio by Moroder - An interesting idea -- Italian dance king Giorgio Moroder talks about his various music experiences and tricks of the trade before Daft Punk take the reins and pump the jams -- is harder to swallow when pinned as the longest song and crucial third track of the album. A better tribute would have been a more cohesive song. e: I knew "Beyond" reminded me of another song. Freezepops "Less Talk More Rokk", but that may just be me. Datasmurf fucked around with this message at 10:52 on May 14, 2013 |
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This album is going to yield some amazing remixes. Also, Alive 2014 is going to be incredible.
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# ? May 14, 2013 11:48 |
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Wouldn't that be Alive 2017?
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# ? May 14, 2013 11:55 |
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Alive 5555
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# ? May 14, 2013 12:02 |
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I think I like almost every song on this album in some way or another. However, I think I'd like Touch better if it didn't have that weird ghostly bit at the start, and just went right into Paul Williams singing. I actually kind of like his older voice, but not when it's modulated.
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# ? May 14, 2013 12:29 |
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hemophilia posted:It's not four-to-the-floor hosue music, no, but For fucks sake that's a boring style of music and it hasn't been interesting since, well, Homework. I'm fairly sure you don't have anywhere near the requisite experience to make that judgement, especially considering the only reason Daft Punk took off over the legions of other people rinsing that sound is because they got signed to a major label, released an album rather than 12"s, and dressed up as robots. Spermgod fucked around with this message at 12:40 on May 14, 2013 |
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Okay, actually got the chance to listen to this album now, and it is not what I expected, but exactly what I wanted. It does feel like an album I have to sit down and listen to in full, though; while I have no problem with this, it's gonna make it hard to incorporate it into the music I listen to. I mean, Giorgio by Moroder is great, but it's going to be hard to get into when it starts with what sounds like an interview from a documentary about the birth of electronic music and you're not already into the groove.
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# ? May 14, 2013 13:09 |
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I want to hear a mash-up of Zapp and Roger's More Bounce to the Ounce and Lose Yourself to Dance. After a day of repeated listening, Lose Yourself to Dance is turning into my favorite track.
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# ? May 14, 2013 13:24 |
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OniKun posted:Production wise, the album is absolutely solid. I don't think a single instrument or sound is used on more than one song. Every noise, every instrument, and every vocal all meshes together perfectly on a song-by-song basis. Now I'll say I may be jaded on Daft Punk. I've been around for a minute, I remember the years build up to Human After All, the "this can't be daft punk, must be a fake leak", the immediate hatred and then eventual classic status. So maybe I'll come around. I appreciate their attempt to make something new and unique, to branch out and come out of left field, and production-wise, they accomplish that. But I also think this is obviously their worst album to date. Nothing exciting, nothing uptempo, just a bunch of songs that sound like they could be from FUNK YOURSELF, the local funk/soul/disco/70s-la-rock cover band. ManoliIsFat fucked around with this message at 13:49 on May 14, 2013 |
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hemophilia posted:It's not four-to-the-floor hosue music, no, but For fucks sake that's a boring style of music and it hasn't been interesting since, well, Homework. Daft Punk took a handful of old styles, added their special brand of french cheese, and modernized things a bit. "A few vocoders and autotuning" isn't really "modernized" as much as it's "disco plus an effect." The reason people are saying this isn't dance music is because by the definition you're trying to use a Waltz is considered "dance music" and people tend to have some attachment to that term. Seriously, some of us don't mind the disco inspirations that frequently come part and parcel with French House, but that's more because they took something from disco and made it sound different and likable, not because we really want to hear some more disco. spaceship posted:This album is going to yield some amazing remixes. Also, Alive 2014 is going to be incredible. This I'll probably agree with.
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# ? May 14, 2013 13:50 |
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It'd actually be really awesome if a bunch of producers chopped up stabs from this record and made a really heavy Daft Punk sounding record out of it.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to start giving some other french house producers working in a similar style some credit rather than relying on others to polish a turd so it lives up to our expectations?
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# ? May 14, 2013 14:00 |
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It wouldn't complete the circle as poetically, but of course. I'm not the biggest fan of contemporary french producers, but I'm down. Basically, any songs that aren't these ones.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Seriously, some of us don't mind the disco inspirations that frequently come part and parcel with French House, but that's more because they took something from disco and made it sound different and likable, not because we really want to hear some more disco. What the gently caress? How could you possibly like French house and not like disco? edit: Okay I get what you're saying but the problem with this album isn't that it's disco, it's that it's bad. Like if it sounded like an album of Larry Levan mixes that would be just fine with me. Spermgod fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 14, 2013 |
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I'm pretty sure I've read the whole thread and haven't seen anyone post this yet, but as far as remixes go, Justice has been playing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4DAT0_TrY
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# ? May 14, 2013 14:36 |
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I think I like the record as a collection of music but it does nothing for me as a collection of songs. I like the way things sound but it's really more background music. As songs, it fell quite below my expectations. There really isn't anything I would want on repeat. They still do some interesting stuff like "Contact" but I don't expect to hear much of this record a month from now.
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# ? May 14, 2013 14:38 |
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While the album is different it is in no way terrible. I think the worst part of the album is Contact, but only because it gives a glimpse of what could have been. Sounds like it could have come directly off of Discovery. Really really fantastic way to either end or begin the album (in a lot of ways I'm jealous of those who started off thinking it was the intro) A lot of the songs have a good groove to them, but again, it caught me off guard due to previous albums. Some songs are really slow but have a nice groove with them so it balances out a bit. Really disappointed by Touch, though to be fair I read into it far too much (reading the first listen leaks). Beyond / Motherboard did not do much for me on my first and second listen. But I'd argue tracks such as Giorgio / Instant Crush / Doin' it right / Contact are some of Daft Punks finest and really helps the price of admission. And of course, all of this will sound ten times better when Alive 20-whenever drops.
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Tokyo Slutty Gal posted:What the gently caress? How could you possibly like French house and not like disco? It's really not that hard? Disco had elements that when readapted into a house setting work really well, but I don't find disco on its own even slightly enjoyable? I know I'm not alone in this.
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# ? May 14, 2013 14:44 |
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I'm really digging this album. It's not quite what I was expecting, but I'm not let down by a single track and it's pretty good to just turn on and chill out with while working.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:18 |
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Panda Bear and Daft Punk need to make an entire album together because that track is too addicting.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:22 |
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You kids aren't ready for this album, but your dads are gonna love it.
Popcorn fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 14, 2013 |
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In other daft punk news
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The Saddest Rhino posted:In other daft punk news Maybe he'll Get Lucky and his dream will come true.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:34 |
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Having listened to it roughly four times now, I hope this is their last album.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:43 |
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ManoliIsFat posted:I agree with this. The album is immaculately produced, but it IS just a bunch of cheesy mom music. I think the music is totally uninspired, over-the-hill, stuff you'd hear in an overpriced restaurant on a Friday night. You wouldn't know these guys used to be the biggest filter disco house duo in the world. This record is the new Dark Side of the Moon. A good, long article about the production would be way more interesting than the record itself. Tokyo Slutty Gal posted:What the gently caress? How could you possibly like French house and not like disco? That's exactly what I listened to after I turned this off. Like I sincerely wish all the dudes going crazy about RAM would just spend the rest of their day listening to random Larry Levan mixes.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:48 |
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Yeah, the more I think about this album the more I realize that the problem isn't that it's a "terrible" album, it's that I've heard the style of music on this album done so much better already. I'm a johnny-come-lately when it comes to Daft Punk, and I've only really started listening to them within the last couple of years, but I've heard so many albums influenced by them by now that when I hear Random Access Memories it actually sounds like knock-off of other Daft Punk-inspired bands. Justice is now a better Daft Punk than Daft Punk is. I guess what I'm saying is that Guy-Manuel and Thomas should surrender their robot helmets to the dudes from Justice, and Justice should just be Daft Punk from here on out.
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# ? May 14, 2013 15:59 |
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Hahaha I love the gently caress out of Justice but if you're seeking shelter from this album Im not sure Id suggest running to the two guys who just shucked the exact same fanbase to make an awesome campy as gently caress prog rock record
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:05 |
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:It's really not that hard? Disco had elements that when readapted into a house setting work really well, but I don't find disco on its own even slightly enjoyable? I know I'm not alone in this. The Saddest Rhino posted:In other daft punk news https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+am+currently+21+years+old+and+I+want+to+become+a+walrus%22
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:06 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Yeah I had friends who were actually all musically pretty plugged in and they all made fun of me for liking lovely EDM Cher vocoder music. I knew it had something since it was all over the place that summer though. Yeah, I remember the release of every Daft Punk album being met by "WTF is this poo poo?" from just about everyone I talked to who wasn't *seriously* on board. Daft Punk albums are like operating systems.
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:12 |
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I really wanted to like this album but, well, it's bland as hell Whoever compared it to Air's recent efforts is right on the money - RAM's squeaky clean production has the effect of revealing all to clearly just how mediocre they've become as songwriters, probably due in part to their long absences from making music (I thought the blandness of Tron was a bad omen and that turned out to be the case). They should concentrate less on the hype machine and more on writing songs that don't sound like deep cuts on bad 70s albums or B-sides on the latest Strokes/Julian Casablancas abomination. Seriously, the Travis Barker drum jams on a few of the tracks sound just awful. I have no idea how DP could let that stuff onto an album.
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:23 |
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If there's one thing that's certain about this album it's that the boys need to order up a third dreadlocked robo helmet design and officially induct Nile Rodgers into the band. Everytime he's on a track it's a highlight.
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:33 |
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I guess you're all waiting impatiently for the remix album then. I'm extremely happy with what I've got, but I guess a remix album will be nice too.
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# ? May 14, 2013 16:35 |
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I just want to weigh in on the subject of Justice as 'the new Daft Punk' or whatever, since I only heard about them this year, when I made a Daft Punk Pandora station and they were thrown up at me with as much frequency as Deadmau5. I appreciate them, but in no way are they 'the new Daft Punk', or the any Daft Punk. Maybe I'm getting a biased sampling, because that station really likes throwing Phantom Pt. II and especially D.A.N.C.E. at me, but it seems like a lot of their sound is very 'hard', an almost brutal sound that is not entirely unlike being punched in the face (and I mean that in the best possible way). And that's not what I know Daft Punk for, I know them for the softer material that composed a fair amount of Discovery, most of what I've heard from Homework, and the entirety of Random Access Memories. If you think Justice is anything like Daft Punk's actual material, we're clearly not listening to the same Justice. I'd like to be proven wrong, but my slightly sleep-addled mind can't think of any evidence otherwise that I'm aware of.
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