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The Mist had to be formed from all the scrub clans that were rejected from the other congealing clan alliances after Madara and the 1st founded Konoha. Hell, Orochimaru's invented village of science experiments and slaves was more of a threat than them.
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It could be that Madara created the village of Mist after leaving Konoha.
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Exercu posted:Yeah, thinking about it... To be fair, Obito was probably deliberately screwing them over. Mei seems to have done a pretty good job of reversing the terrible policies.
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May 11, 2013 18:42
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S-rankers can make up a lot of a difference numbers wise. Mist having a disproportionate number of high ranking Shinobi due to its grueling methods, such as the Seven Swordsmen, could explain why it became a strong power.
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May 11, 2013 20:16
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Exercu posted:Yeah, thinking about it... Poorly. There has to be a scrub village to make KONOHA WILL OF FIRE look better.
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May 11, 2013 20:22
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I'm pretty sure the answer is that "Guess I've got brain problems!" is far from an Uchiha-exlusive issue.
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Cytokinesis posted:S-rankers can make up a lot of a difference numbers wise. Mist having a disproportionate number of high ranking Shinobi due to its grueling methods, such as the Seven Swordsmen, could explain why it became a strong power. Yea, just look at what Zabuza was capable of, while being a completely normal dude (everybody is god-like now, but stil), and his sword didn't even have a special ability beyond repairing itself by feeding on the iron in people's blood.
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May 12, 2013 01:45
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Wittgen posted:I'm pretty sure the answer is that "Guess I've got brain problems!" is far from an Uchiha-exlusive issue. It would make sense that if one bloodline limit is caused by the Strange Brain that others might also alter the user's physical makeup with possible side effects of being dumb as a brick.
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shaggy-- posted:It would make sense that if one bloodline limit is caused by the Strange Brain that others might also alter the user's physical makeup with possible side effects of being dumb as a brick. Obito and Yagura were killing off the people with bloodline limits, though. Mei is, as far as we know, a competent leader.
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I'll just quote something from another forum.Something from another forum posted:While a lot has been said about the Uchiha clan genetic disorder, it seems that people have overlooked the Uzumaki clan genetic disorder. It is a form of obsessive-compulsive fixation that causes one to perform certain actions and say certain phrases more and more frequently, until they cannot say anything else. Predisposition has been found for the phrases:
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Triple Elation posted:I'll just quote something from another forum.
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Silver2195 posted:To be fair, Obito was probably deliberately screwing them over. Mei seems to have done a pretty good job of reversing the terrible policies. Cytokinesis posted:S-rankers can make up a lot of a difference numbers wise. Mist having a disproportionate number of high ranking Shinobi due to its grueling methods, such as the Seven Swordsmen, could explain why it became a strong power.
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May 12, 2013 12:50
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The translation of Mario in American Shonen Jump comes with an interesting interview with Kishimoto. He basically admits it's kind of crap.U.T. Raptor posted:The whole "two men enter, one man leaves" graduation exam, at least, was going on long before Obito went crazy (since Zabuza seemed to be roughly Kakashi's age). Root had the same exam, so the Leaf arguably isn't that much smarter than the Mist.
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Triple Elation posted:I'll just quote something from another forum.
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Silver2195 posted:The translation of Mario in American Shonen Jump comes with an interesting interview with Kishimoto. He basically admits it's kind of crap. Root is the blackops shadow army, they are few in number and not the standard exam that most of the Leaf ninjas took. I mean god drat there were some incompetent noobsauces in the ninja academy when they became genins. Compared to them at the time, Zabuza was god at the same age.
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MegaCharger posted:Root is the blackops shadow army, they are few in number and not the standard exam that most of the Leaf ninjas took. I mean god drat there were some incompetent noobsauces in the ninja academy when they became genins. Compared to them at the time, Zabuza was god at the same age. First off, I would assume that the Mist had a higher standard for academy graduates than the current Konoha . The current Leaf is actually fairly relaxed in its Ninja Academy protocols for the most part. Sasuke (and I assume the other people in his age range) didn't even join the Academy until he was 7, at that age Itachi had graduated and Kakashi was a chuunin.
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Konoha's system isn't really all that different from Mist's. Mist uses training as its meatgrinder, only sending out their best into the world of ninjas. Konoha uses the world of ninjas itself as its meatgrinder, sending out pretty much every candidate with only their woefully inadequate ninja elementary school education. It is the same result either way- their lovely young ninjas are killed, while their young ninjas with innate skill or high potential thrive. Konoha's method does have a few obvious advantages, but let's not forget that Konoha is still a society which uses child soldiers as a matter of course.
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Weren't they just using child soldiers for dumbass poo poo like rescuing kittens from trees and what not by the time the manga rolls around to present day? They only ended up doing stuff like fighting Zabuza because clients lied about the job and said it was something much simpler. Even then, they always had a teacher around like Kakashi to help protect them. Still, even without that they would end up in the genin exam which takes a certain amount of skill and experience to pass I guess, and if you only gave your trainees softballs they'd fail it miserably most likely.
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It depends on circumstances, but in wartime Konoha has absolutely no issue with using child soldiers. See Kakashi, Itachi, and Obito for examples. They like to give a more gradual learning curve, but it isn't really considered a necessity.
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Yes, which is why we saw Konohamaru and friends out there on the battlefield fighting Zetsus and poo poo.
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Terper posted:Yes, which is why we saw Konohamaru and friends out there on the battlefield fighting Zetsus and poo poo. Well they are Chuunin and pretty powerful for the average ninja.
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Terper posted:Yes, which is why we saw Konohamaru and friends out there on the battlefield fighting Zetsus and poo poo. They were? Honestly, I don't recall seeing them at all. I suppose I could see it being justified in a "if we don't win there's no world to enjoy (kinda) so even the kids want to fight" way, but yea, I see your point. Realistically I don't suppose Kishimoto has ever thought about that aspect of things, and just wants to show kids doing important stuff so that his audience can share in the fantasy easier outside the manga, but it does create an oddly hosed up society.
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I was being sarcastic.  Konoha doesn't use children in war, not anymore.
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Terper posted:I was being sarcastic. Konohamaru did end up fighting a Pain body though.
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Dexo posted:Konohamaru did end up fighting a Pain body though. But that wasn't a "Your mission is to go fight Pain 8 year old ninja kid" it was "Well poo poo Pain just nuked our village, he's coming right for us."
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Chapter is out. I will be so happy when this Obito-Kakashi stuff is finally over. Search your feelings you know it to be true!!! Naruto is less suprised than I thought he'd be about his dead father just showing up out of the blue. And hurray for making Ino of all people do something useful during the battle of the gods!
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Maybe Naruto sensed the Nine Tails Yin chakara?
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SpazmasterX posted:How did Naruto know the Fourth was already on his way? His Kyuubi/Sage mode gives him super sensor abilities so he's probably known about the 4 kage the entire time.
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If I were in Obito's place, I'd feel really lovely and pathetic seeing that Kakashi sticks to my ninja code better than me. Reading Kakashi's lecture I think he's a better Obito than the man himself.
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dipple posted:His Kyuubi/Sage mode gives him super sensor abilities so he's probably known about the 4 kage the entire time. That seems like the sort of thing you would react too at some point. Just saying.
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That last page. Oh hell yeah!
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Mangastream translation is out Right on time dad!
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Shikamaru is strategizing for the entire ninja alliance, and Ino mentally conects to the entire alliance, both taking on the mantle of their fathers. A nice character moment here for these guys. You can really see that Kishimoto likes Team Asuma a lot. Which is fine, cause they are awesome.
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I'm expecting Orochimaru to upstage everyone's Friendship Rock Barriers with his Rashomon jutsu any second now.
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SpazmasterX posted:That seems like the sort of thing you would react too at some point. Just saying. Page 17 he notices him.
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HOLY poo poo! That ending, finally is time for the massive rear end kicking to start  You know, I'm really curious to see Minato's reaction to the fact that Obito was behind the nine-tails attack Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 17:37 on May 15, 2013 |
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I Love Annie May posted:If I were in Obito's place, I'd feel really lovely and pathetic seeing that Kakashi sticks to my ninja code better than me. Reading Kakashi's lecture I think he's a better Obito than the man himself. Well, he is the "copy ninja" afterall.
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SpazmasterX posted:That seems like the sort of thing you would react too at some point. Just saying. The author didn't show you that for dramatic effect. This is called writing.
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