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Potooweet posted:Whoa, lets not get carried away here. TWOT pro points: 1) I don't feel viscerally grossed out reading it. 2) Its getting a drat ending. TWOT con points: 1) Volumes about dress smoothing
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Shageletic posted:TWOT pro points: It does have the weird whipping bondage stuff with the Aes Sedai. Still nowhere near as bad though. Also I actually enjoyed the slower books in WOT more so then ADWD. Even the slow ones actually had good endings. Not lovely decades long cliffhangers.
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Personperson14 posted:Are the Wild Cards books that bad? Or does everyone hate them because GRRM likes editing them more then writing his own loving books. They do look pretty awful though. Everyone hates them because GRRM likes editing them more than writing his own loving books, but they are also that bad.
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Yeah check out that thread about them. Like isn't there a guy who rapes, and that's his superpower or something?
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Cornwind Evil posted:You know, people keep bringing up the whole 'Gurm has given up writing, he's going to just talk about football and creep on the actresses until he dies, then his notes will be burned and the planned ending will vanish into oblivion and we'll never have closure' thing, but considering how most people in this thread also think, at the same time, Gurm is completely unable to finish what he started in any way that's saitisfying, maybe this is a GOOD thing. Instead of a set canon ending that will probably just disappoint everyone, you're free to decide how it ended yourself. You want Mad Queen Dany reigning over the ashes? Well there's no set ending, so why the hell can't it end that way? You want the Starks to come back and crush everyone? Just as valid as the last one! You want the White Walkers to turn it into a kingdom of the dead and ice? Sure! Hodor on the Iron Throne? WHY NOT? Dany swimming across the Narrow Sea, pointing her butt at Westeros, and drowning the whole continent in poo poo? Hey, no set ending, yours is just as valid as whatever Gurm had planned. He didn't write it down, so it's open to the world now. Ty? Is that you, Ty? Aurubin posted:And how did that end? Henry Tudor, barely related to anyone, seized power and killed everybody else. Not exactly romantic, but sensible. If we should ever receive an ending, it'll be something like that. You didn't think that was worth spoiling, you loving monster? Voodoo posted:I wonder what will happen after next season (GoT: Season 4) and the show has essentially caught up to the books. In baby-thread-501 will people have to speculate only based off of TV information? Will book-based speculation be banned? These are all important questions. I can think of a diabolical gurm plan. He could have made a deal with HBO that TWoW would be skipped over in the show to the last book, forcing the tviv types to buy the book (in effect forcing them to buy ALL of the books). Then everyone would be on the same page for the end of the series. Pun intended. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 15:51 on May 16, 2013 |
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Junkenstein posted:It's funny, cos when they finally reveal who he is, everyone will just wonder why it was built up as such a mystery for a whole loving season. Most people I speak to who watch the show don't even know who the Boltons are. I don't really imagine people being surprised about it. The surprise is suppose to be the appearance of Reek after Theon's long disappearance and I feel HBO is dropping the ball there however maybe I'm being to quick in judging.
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Personperson14 posted:Are the Wild Cards books that bad? Or does everyone hate them because GRRM likes editing them more then writing his own loving books. They do look pretty awful though. Their siren song calls to me. If only that first book was't $7 for the KINDLE version. Seriously, $7? Are you kidding me?
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speeds posted:Most people I speak to who watch the show don't even know who the Boltons are. I don't really imagine people being surprised about it. The surprise is suppose to be the appearance of Reek after Theon's long disappearance and I feel HBO is dropping the ball there however maybe I'm being to quick in judging. They have really hosed up the Bolton plot line. I feel like they're a group that HBO is begging people to care about but nobody really does. The problem, I think, is they're using the Boltons to fill in for a bunch of different people and so they're just this group that serves whatever purpose is needed at the time. They're like stage-hands moving furniture on and off the stage: they appear when needed and then we forget what they look like when they're gone.
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Personperson14 posted:Are the Wild Cards books that bad? Or does everyone hate them because GRRM likes editing them more then writing his own loving books. They do look pretty awful though. There's a guy who gets mana from raping corpses. But also Gurm likes editing them more than finishing the goddamn books. So really it's both.
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Refused posted:
Hey, I've read Animorphs. She should get some gymnast-type clothing - problem solved.
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speeds posted:Most people I speak to who watch the show don't even know who the Boltons are. I don't really imagine people being surprised about it. The surprise is suppose to be the appearance of Reek after Theon's long disappearance and I feel HBO is dropping the ball there however maybe I'm being to quick in judging. Most people reading the books didn't know who the Boltons were until one of them killed Robb.
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Rarity posted:Most people reading the books didn't know who the Boltons were until one of them killed Robb. I feel like the Arya chapters made the name memorable. Have they even mentioned leeches in the show?
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tadashi posted:They have really hosed up the Bolton plot line. I feel like they're a group that HBO is begging people to care about but nobody really does. The problem, I think, is they're using the Boltons to fill in for a bunch of different people and so they're just this group that serves whatever purpose is needed at the time. They're like stage-hands moving furniture on and off the stage: they appear when needed and then we forget what they look like when they're gone. Maybe because last season had everything building up to a big climax with the siege of King's Landing (+ Dany off doing her own thing as usual), whereas this season has no clear direction other than the meta knowledge that something big always happens in Episode 9 (and even the babby thread should know that a happy wedding at the Twins isn't gonna cut it). But all the plots are just meandering around, which works fine in a 400 page book with lots of description and inner monologue, but in the show it just seems sloppy. unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 17:17 on May 16, 2013 |
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Personperson14 posted:Plus calling someone the American/European/Asia ______________ is just stupid in it's own right. Joey Chestnut, the American Kobayashi
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Clint Eastwood, the American Mifune Toshiro!
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Ofc. Sex Robot BPD posted:...whereas this season has no clear direction other than the meta knowledge that something big always happens in Episode 9... That's why AFFC should definitely get it's own season. Something weird happens in Episode 1, it's never addressed again until a post credits scene in Episode 10. Some kind of interesting stuff happens, but almost none of it is important. That'll knock the meta right out of them.
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Voodoo posted:I don't think they'll drag it out that long, based on how they're going this season. Arya is not ditching the hound at the end of this season. The Red Wedding is only the END of episode 9. SHe will gently caress off to braavos next season and probably at the end since the hound is a good actor on the show so they'll build more scenes for him and arya another stand out. Ygritte will be around next season. THey arent even attacking castle black this season. Jon will become lord commander at the END of season 4 at the earliest. They still have to attack castle black and then the wall with the wildling forces. ADWD stuff by season 4? Are you high? ADWD stuff will be in Season 5 basically because they will take book 4 and 5 chronologically. Jerkface fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 16, 2013 |
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Jerkface posted:ADWD stuff by season 4? God willing and the creek don't rise. If they can cram enough AFFC/ADWD into next season, maybe HBO wraps up those beauties in season five. They could be writing ADOS in three years.
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Voodoo posted:I don't think they'll drag it out that long, based on how they're going this season. I have a feeling Books 4 and 5 will be adapted so the action happens in some sort of chronological order for the series. It's going to be an absurd challenge to get those on the screen without some sort of chaos. AtAt-de-fay posted:God willing and the creek don't rise. If they can cram enough AFFC/ADWD into next season, maybe HBO wraps up those beauties in season five. They could be writing ADOS in three years. I have a feeling we'll see the last book come out within the same 12 months as the final season. I'm sure HBO is doing whatever they can to make sure GRRM gets that book written in time to close out the show in a reasonable number of years. tadashi fucked around with this message at 20:50 on May 16, 2013 |
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It's been said over and over. They will finish the series even if he never finishes another book. They have the ending straight from the source. We're getting an ending, sooner or later, one way or another. I want to believe.  They're dumb if the lose the Hound this season. The character (and the actor, who does a great job) hasn't been fully developed yet and running around the Riverlands with Arya could easily keep her busy next season without going to Braavos.
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run DNC posted:Pretty sure the Oilers have the worst fanbase. Everyone is perpetually convinced that next year they are going all the way. Godammit, late to the sportschat, beaten to the punch. House Oylar: Hey, Maybe Next Year. Also, this is a lot of bookchat. I propose the final Game of Bones book be the suggested (sexy, terrifying) CYOA. Which means we should get cracking.
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Here's the organization post from January, let's get a-cracking that whip, ne? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3422738&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=537#post411203964
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I'm keeping mine. It has [SEX] and apparently is about convincing a gay character to switch teams. It will be excruciating to write and impossible to read and is about as GRRMY as it gets.
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SaviourX posted:Here's the organization post from January, let's get a-cracking that whip, ne? What the hell is wrong with you people? 
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Rarity posted:What the hell is wrong with you people? That's his outline which is not really a collaborative effort. Also editing didn't really happen last time but I guess that's par for the course for e-publishing.
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Rarity posted:Most people reading the books didn't know who the Boltons were until one of them killed Robb. Ramsay was pretty memorable for killing Roderick, kidnapping Theon, and burning down Winterfell in ACoK. Roose was less-memorable but he was still there to take Harrenhal. (Again, I still haven't watched anything past ep 7 of S2 so I don't know how the show handled either of those things).
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TB Thread posted:Demi feels a strange connection to her savior and performs oral sex on the ancient beast. I need to buy GoB. edit: TB Thread posted:Miri disrobes revealing her wombmanicle, a prehensile tentacle that resembles a toothless snake with a gaping mouth. Miri assures him that if he just puts it in like he would a human woman, she would do all the rest. Miri delivers the foreshadowing dialogue "You must learn to see with your real eyes." CoK can't get here fast enough. 
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Rarity posted:What the hell is wrong with you people? Go look up the DSM-IV on Google. I'll wait. All of that.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Go look up the DSM-IV on Google. I'll wait. DSM-V is next week! Party, wooooo! http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx
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The sexy vampires north of the barricade are legit the sexiest vampires ever. Ladies and womb-men, gird thy loins.
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My chapters are already done just editing them. Quick question did Game of Bones sell like even one copy?
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Undead Unicorn posted:My chapters are already done just editing them. Quick question did Game of Bones sell like even one copy? It's apparently sold enough for the authors to buy themselves one (1) beer that's not total piss! Also the thread of geniuses is figuring out Bolton's about to betray Robb in a lethal fashion. I guess I'll have to turn to tumblr or youtube reactions to get my tears
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whowhatwhere posted:Also the thread of geniuses is figuring out Bolton's about to betray Robb in a lethal fashion. I guess I'll have to turn to tumblr or youtube reactions to get my tears I haven't seen any such indications. Some think Roose is up to something but I don't think any of them specifically expect the RW yet.
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Contra Calculus posted:Ramsay was pretty memorable for killing Roderick, kidnapping Theon, and burning down Winterfell in ACoK. Roose was less-memorable but he was still there to take Harrenhal. Roose was always the better and more memorable character for me. While Ramsay had more shocking moments on his resume, Roose's characterization was much more flushed out and was built up from his very first appearance. speeds posted:Most people I speak to who watch the show don't even know who the Boltons are. I don't really imagine people being surprised about it. The surprise is suppose to be the appearance of Reek after Theon's long disappearance and I feel HBO is dropping the ball there however maybe I'm being to quick in judging. Roose has been bland on the show due to Tywin getting all the second season Harrenhall action and Roose having to behave around Rob. Maybe he'll get to fly his freak flag after the Red Wedding/Ramsay reveal and there isn't the risk of his creepiness and ruthlessness making his future betrayal of the Starks too obvious on screen.
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