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Xelkelvos posted:In other words, the Japanese? Yeah exactly. I laughed out loud reading that.
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OH poo poo! I REMEMBER THAT FISHING GAME FROM WHEN I WAS A KID! Next episode should be really interesting. Pico and Vince are both entertaining characters, even if they're a little too transparently "______ with a heart of gold" types.
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Shakugan posted:I like how inspiring this show can be, but I feel like it's directed by a bunch of guys who are completely oblivious to how sexist they are at times. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2002-07-26/html/CREC-2002-07-26-pt1-PgS7429.htm I'm pretty sure that from any modern point of reference, humanity has been sexist for most of its history, and remains so in many places. But it's not incredibly farfetched to claim there's a tradition of female parachute riggers. Perhaps the character himself is a little bit sexist. But it seems a tad stupid to ascribe it to the directors (or mangaka - remember, this anime is an adaptation) when there's a reasonable possibility of it actually being true, given how the series goes into a lot more detail about the space program than pretty much any other entertainment like it. Xelkelvos posted:In other words, the Japanese? I rewrote this paragraph several times before posting, and a couple of times after, to remove some of my venom. I would ask you to apologize but it would mean very little; you're only one person and no doubt there's tens more who chuckled in agreement. So please, at least be careful when making this kind of joke in the future. Please. Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 07:37 on May 12, 2013 |
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May 12, 2013 07:32
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:Women have been specifically recognized for serving in the military in WWII, and specifically for their work as parachute riggers. There's a difference between acknowledging that women did work as parachute riggers in WWII and suggesting that present day women are better parachute riggers because "they want to keep their men safe" or whatever line was used in this episode. It's not the particular character either, many characters have made odd misogynistic comments. And who can forget the two big strong men going out to save Hibito and Damian even though the moon's gravity made strength irrelevant and one of the women had actual medical training. This show is great, but it's definitely got its flaws.
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May 12, 2013 07:56
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Shakugan posted:There's a difference between acknowledging that women did work as parachute riggers in WWII and suggesting that present day women are better parachute riggers because "they want to keep their men safe" or whatever line was used in this episode. It's not the particular character either, many characters have made odd misogynistic comments. And who can forget the two big strong men going out to save Hibito and Damian even though the moon's gravity made strength irrelevant and one of the women had actual medical training. Hmm, that definitely seems likely given the earlier episodes, but I wonder how much of that is in the direction and how much is in the source material? In either case, I feel that the women the show does spend any amount of time on are fairly strong and independent characters, so while I'm not too happy with the parachute-folding treatment, the show hasn't induced major discomfort on account of it. Just a "Hmm... :/" now and then.
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May 12, 2013 08:18
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:Hmm, that definitely seems likely given the earlier episodes, but I wonder how much of that is in the direction and how much is in the source material? In either case, I feel that the women the show does spend any amount of time on are fairly strong and independent characters, so while I'm not too happy with the parachute-folding treatment, the show hasn't induced major discomfort on account of it. Just a "Hmm... :/" now and then. It's more apparent at different degrees in other series with some being fairly blatant with the "traditional female" role being emphasized and favored, even amongst tomboy characters. It's probably unintentional, but it's common enough not to be coincidental.
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May 12, 2013 09:11
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Raenir Salazar posted:e: Oh yeah Industry Tribal Knowledge 101 That was awesome, coming from the Cold War Airspace/Military History thread I hear a lot about how there's tonnes of poo poo no one can build anymore because the people who either designed it, or figured out how to actually practically make the parts aren't around. For the F-22 I hear they're actually video taping the process and interviewing factory floor workers/technicians just because of that. I love when they bring bits like this in. It shows a lot of care and research on the part of the author. Plus I think the whole Tribal Knowledge thing is pretty wild. My eyes lit up when I realized they were going into that.
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May 17, 2013 20:57
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New episode: Towards the end of his lectures I started to wish I could reach through the screen and punch that teacher.
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May 18, 2013 17:52
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Indiana_Krom posted:New episode: Towards the end of his lectures I started to wish I could reach through the screen and punch that teacher. I was visibly shaking with rage. If I were a parent and I heard some teacher said to my kids I wouldn't rest until his rear end was fired.
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May 18, 2013 20:10
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Raenir Salazar posted:
I had to wonder how much of that teacher's actions was as a part of small town politics and the largest local employer also running a local tech school. I bet he and the school system are both receiving all sorts of financial kickbacks to keep the local work-pool full.
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May 19, 2013 03:07
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I kinda get the feeling that the author may have learned everything he knows about small-time America from super cliche movies where adults all poo poo on kids' dreams and then the kids show them by making those dreams come true  Probably with an overbearing music number blaring in the background.
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May 19, 2013 04:50
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OnimaruXLR posted:I kinda get the feeling that the author may have learned everything he knows about small-time America from super cliche movies where adults all poo poo on kids' dreams and then the kids show them by making those dreams come true In fairness, this episode was kinda more or less exactly how this movie happened; which is based on a true story. 
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May 19, 2013 04:57
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Yeah, most schools would fire your rear end so fast that your head would spin for even suggesting that you can't go to college because you're from a small town.
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May 19, 2013 12:25
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Raenir Salazar posted:In fairness, this episode was kinda more or less exactly how this movie happened; which is based on a true story. Rick actually says they were doing exactly what Homer Hickam did.
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May 19, 2013 17:02
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Raenir Salazar posted:In fairness, this episode was kinda more or less exactly how this movie happened; which is based on a true story. Wikipedia posted:October Sky is an anagram of Rocket Boys, the title of the book upon which the movie is based. 
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May 20, 2013 03:29
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Raenir Salazar posted:
I was more angry about the trucker hogging the leftmost lane, but yeah, that guy was an rear end in a top hat too.
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May 20, 2013 07:54
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Rexides posted:I was more angry about the trucker hogging the leftmost lane, but yeah, that guy was an rear end in a top hat too. I didn't know going over 100 was still near the speed limit in Texas
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May 20, 2013 09:03
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If they aren't going to do a proper fist bump then they should just stop animating it. 
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May 26, 2013 19:24
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Regarding the rear end-hat school counselor telling the boys to forget their space-faring dreams and become miners: He was probably both a stooge of the mining company as well as asked by many parents to attempt to squash the space-going dreams. I would imagine he might have some pent-up frustrations himself. We don't know about Rick's parents, but we can be sure the other two fathers were definitely wanting the counselor to tell the boys to give up on their dreams and become miners. I was really hoping Mutta would say to Vince while they were driving to the bar, "Hey, I designed this car. You're going to slow...."
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May 26, 2013 19:41
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Did they really need to spend 3 minutes recapping the previous episode?
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May 26, 2013 19:48
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paragon1 posted:Did they really need to spend 3 minutes recapping the previous episode? This episode was almost up to recent One Piece episode levels of 6+ minutes before anything new happens. I wonder how far along the anime series is in the manga and when it's going to start running out.
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May 26, 2013 21:42
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At this point I've basically just accepted that the pacing is going to be very, very slow; every so often you have an episode where essentially nothing happens, like this one. Thankfully, it looks like next week's will have some plot advancement.
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May 26, 2013 21:43
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Just strap Mutta on a rocket and shoot him to space already, gently caress.
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May 27, 2013 20:43
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I stopped watching a few weeks ago just to let a backlog build up so I won't feel completely blueballed everytime I see the show. It's been terrible about pacing, but ever since the end of the first group test 30 something episodes ago it's been gradually getting worse and worse about it.
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May 27, 2013 23:52
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I really loving loved this show at one point but now I'm just sick of all these loving flashbacks.
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May 28, 2013 00:06
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I still really enjoy the show, but I'm not going to lie, I really do not care about Pico or Vince at all. I want to see the plot/character development for Hibito and the Japanese astronaut candidates. As a result, all this focus on Vince and Pico's childhood is, admittedly, pretty loving frustrating. The pacing would be bad even with it focusing primarily on those key cast members, but it wouldn't be quite this glacial.
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May 28, 2013 00:13
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Rexides posted:Just strap Mutta on a rocket and shoot him to space already, gently caress. Seriously get these fuckers into real astronaut training for fucks sake.
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May 28, 2013 01:51
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Rexides posted:Just strap Mutta on a rocket and shoot him to space already, gently caress. Considering Hibito's coming back in a few days they're actually moving backwards in getting the brothers into space. Honestly, at this point I just skip 'till after the OP. Everything before that's going to be recap and flashback anyway. Also, didn't Vince go into the army? If there's one thing that's considered a valid career choice in a podunk American town it's that.
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May 28, 2013 03:27
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King of Solomon posted:At this point I've basically just accepted that the pacing is going to be very, very slow; every so often you have an episode where essentially nothing happens, like this one. Thankfully, it looks like next week's will have some plot advancement. Same here, I internalize its pacing by likening it to a soap opera. I know not much is going to happen each time but there's so many good character moments I'm fine with it. I do like the Vince/Pico tangent though, it took two jerk rear end characters who seemed there to be obstructions to actual human beings who had their own motivations and careers to contrast with Mutta; it really gets home like sure, in a career you'll have some stern hard asses but they're that sometimes for a good reason and you should learn from the good ones.
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I like the pace in the sense that I think it contributes to the overall show, even if it makes the week to week viewing torturous. By this, I mean that if all episodes of the show were available right now, and could be watched back to back, we would appreciate the pace. This show has an absolutely enormous cast of characters, and the slow pace is what allows each and every character to be individual characters with their own traits. A faster pace would mean the show would be relying on awful stereotypes more often, or that many of the characters would blend into one another. What I'm curious to know is if this slow pace is due to the author, or the adapters. Is the manga this slow in terms of content per chapter? Or are the adapters only adapting a chapter per episode?
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May 28, 2013 11:02
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"Space is other people", I think that's the message of the show from what I understand because the whole going to actual space thing seems like a farce at this point.
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May 28, 2013 16:54
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Rexides posted:"Space is other people", I think that's the message of the show from what I understand because the whole going to actual space thing seems like a farce at this point. Of the show or in real life?
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May 28, 2013 17:12
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Shakugan posted:What I'm curious to know is if this slow pace is due to the author, or the adapters. Is the manga this slow in terms of content per chapter? Or are the adapters only adapting a chapter per episode? They've been doing around a chapter per episode most of the time, so both the anime and the manga move at the same pace.
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Joshlemagne posted:Also, didn't Vince go into the army? If there's one thing that's considered a valid career choice in a podunk American town it's that. That was probably how he managed to pay for college without any support from his family. Makes sense, actually.
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May 30, 2013 17:34
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This show  It keeps punching me where it counts. 
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Jun 1, 2013 20:03
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That was a great episode. Group hug, guys!
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Jun 1, 2013 20:42
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Always managing to make me feel good at the end. Did they really run out of space photos or just assumed that no one really cared about them in the first place? 
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What is going on? That's two episodes in a row that have moved along relatively fast; starting, developing and concluding issues that I expected to take up multiple episodes (the actual competition and the reentry of Hibito in particular I expected to take quite some time). I'm particularly glad about the reentry thing, though I actually enjoy the glacial pace of the show, I'm really not much of a fan of Hibito (and so glacial pace + Hibito = many weeks of ehhh). That brings up something really odd about this show. Hibito is supposed to be a really central character, but I don't really feel like we know him well at all. We don't really get into his head to the same extent as other characters. Like, I feel like we know Pico (and a whole range of secondary characters) better than Hibito after just a few episodes. It's odd that in a show that fleshes out even the secondary cast that Hibito is still such an enigma.
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Shakugan posted:What is going on? That's two episodes in a row that have moved along relatively fast; starting, developing and concluding issues that I expected to take up multiple episodes (the actual competition and the reentry of Hibito in particular I expected to take quite some time). I'm particularly glad about the reentry thing, though I actually enjoy the glacial pace of the show, I'm really not much of a fan of Hibito (and so glacial pace + Hibito = many weeks of ehhh). I think this show is more about relationships than individuals. With Pico we didn't really learn much about him on his own, but we did learn a lot about his relationship with the other two. With Hibito it's the same; we know all about his relationship with Mu, but not him as an individual. The only individual we really know well is Mutta because he is the central character.
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Anyone else shocked that Pico has a wife and two kids? Also, Mutta's mom and dad were as awesome as ever. However, Mutta's dad's shirt made no sense this time. You'd think they'd have a better way to re-enter the atmosphere after all this time? Sheesh that's scary.
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