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Capaldi's first series is done, on to Season Nine! Before continuing this thread... please realize, THIS IS THE SPOILER THREAD! Yes, this is the spoiler thread, wherein we spoil that Peter Capaldi is actually the Valeyard. Sorry, you just got spoiled sucker! As for what we have heard about Season 9 from official news and spy photos: CONFIRMED: Capaldi and Coleman are both back and the title for the season 9 premiere is "The Magician's Apprentice". The series will again start airing in the fall, with a full series run. Filming for season 9 began on January 5th. Teek fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jan 5, 2015 |
# ? May 19, 2013 07:55 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:02 |
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I just can't contain my excitement for this special. I've only been watching since 2010, but... I don't know, I just am so in love with this show, despite this relatively weak series. Gonna be hella mood whiplash, though, because it's the 50th for the JFK assassination, too.
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# ? May 19, 2013 08:01 |
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I knew it was John Hurt but I still got pumped as hell at the reveal and the title.
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# ? May 19, 2013 08:07 |
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So, what are the chances that Smith and Tennant will be teaming up against Hurt? Smith seemed to have a lot of contempt for him in the Finale.
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# ? May 19, 2013 08:30 |
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Oh man, I hope they go that route people seem to be talking about where Hurt's Doctor is the real 9th Doctor. It wouldn't even be disagreeable with established canon as far as Smith being 11, because of the dialogue at the end where Smith said "You didn't do it in the name of the DOCTOR" which leads me to believe that, Time Lord regeneration or not, you don't count as a continuation of that specific Time Lord unless you maintain the promise you make when you take your name.
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# ? May 19, 2013 08:34 |
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Elrond Hubbard posted:So, what are the chances that Smith and Tennant will be teaming up against Hurt? Smith seemed to have a lot of contempt for him in the Finale. In that recent Smith and Tennant interview Smith says there's a "third character [he] can't talk about" who's "bemused" by the two Doctors, which, presuming that's Hurt, hints a bit towards what their relationship might be like.
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# ? May 19, 2013 08:45 |
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I'm not a huge fan of the original run of the show, but it kind of pisses me off that they would relegate McGann's regeneration to a webisode. At least they're not calling it a goddamned TARDISode.
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# ? May 19, 2013 09:01 |
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Aatrek posted:I'm not a huge fan of the original run of the show, but it kind of pisses me off that they would relegate McGann's regeneration to a webisode.
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# ? May 19, 2013 09:42 |
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Count me as one of the people who wants Hurt to be the ninth incarnation. The idea of Eight fighting in the Time War always just struck me as...goofy. I like Eight, but Paul McGann vs. Daleks is just not something I can envision.
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# ? May 19, 2013 10:11 |
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Aatrek posted:I'm not a huge fan of the original run of the show, but it kind of pisses me off that they would relegate McGann's regeneration to a webisode. I'll take what I can get.
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# ? May 19, 2013 10:18 |
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I for one love how more and more kickass British actors are showing up in Who. I mean, gently caress, in the last 5 months we've had Ian McKellan, David Warner, Warwick Davis, John Hurt...now if Patrick Stewart could please be in this year's Xmas special, and Sean Connery could just put his retirement behind him for a few days worth of shooting, I could potentially die a happy man.
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# ? May 19, 2013 10:24 |
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Aatrek posted:I'm not a huge fan of the original run of the show, but it kind of pisses me off that they would relegate McGann's regeneration to a webisode. Well, it's more than most of us would ever have expected him to get.
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# ? May 19, 2013 10:49 |
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From the way Smith and Hurt interacted, I'm expecting Tennant/Smith to work with Hurt to destroy whatever villain they use for the 50th. Probably one of the horrors of the Time War that leaked out after The Doctor crossed his own timeline. There's probably some dark poo poo in there.
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# ? May 19, 2013 11:48 |
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Genetic Toaster posted:From the way Smith and Hurt interacted, I'm expecting Tennant/Smith to work with Hurt to destroy whatever villain they use for the 50th. Surely it has to be the Daleks, right? I mean, this is supposed to be the big microcosm of Dr Who, it'd be wrong it if were anyone else.
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# ? May 19, 2013 12:43 |
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Ensign_Ricky posted:I for one love how more and more kickass British actors are showing up in Who. I mean, gently caress, in the last 5 months we've had Ian McKellan, David Warner, Warwick Davis, John Hurt...now if Patrick Stewart could please be in this year's Xmas special, and Sean Connery could just put his retirement behind him for a few days worth of shooting, I could potentially die a happy man. Wait- [checks imdb]- HOLY gently caress THE GREAT INTELLIGENCE WAS IAN MCKELLAN! HOW DID I MISS THAT!
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# ? May 19, 2013 13:00 |
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Aatrek posted:I'm not a huge fan of the original run of the show, but it kind of pisses me off that they would relegate McGann's regeneration to a webisode. As long as it ends up on the bluray box set, I'm happy. I'd rather get a prequel webisode thing than have it crammed into the episode proper to the detriment of character development there.
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# ? May 19, 2013 15:40 |
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I've heard from the Colin Baker Fan Twitter that all of the living Doctors have filmed parts for the 50th. https://twitter.com/ColinBakerFans How likely is this to be true?
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# ? May 19, 2013 16:19 |
That there's a Colin Baker fan twitter? A few years ago, I'd have said not very likely... Dunno, though. All the classic actors have denied everything so far.
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# ? May 19, 2013 16:23 |
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Burkion posted:I've heard from the Colin Baker Fan Twitter that all of the living Doctors have filmed parts for the 50th. https://twitter.com/ColinBakerFans
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# ? May 19, 2013 16:29 |
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VogeGandire posted:Surely it has to be the Daleks, right? I mean, this is supposed to be the big microcosm of Dr Who, it'd be wrong it if were anyone else. Omega is always a possibility with Doctor-teamup episodes too.
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# ? May 19, 2013 16:30 |
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HonorableTB posted:Oh man, I hope they go that route people seem to be talking about where Hurt's Doctor is the real 9th Doctor. It wouldn't even be disagreeable with established canon as far as Smith being 11, because of the dialogue at the end where Smith said "You didn't do it in the name of the DOCTOR" which leads me to believe that, Time Lord regeneration or not, you don't count as a continuation of that specific Time Lord unless you maintain the promise you make when you take your name. The spoilerish rumors (I don't know if they were actual spoilers or people speculating on what had been spoiled.) said John Hurt was playing a regeneration that happened between McGann and Eccleston that later Doctors had "forgotten" about. And I agree with most of the spoiler thread that thought it sucked to just stuff a hidden regeneration in there with no warning. But a regeneration that did something to cause other Doctors (or maybe just Eleven) to strip him of his title? I love that idea. There's definitely enough darkness in him as a whole to do something like that.
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# ? May 19, 2013 17:23 |
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00Kevin posted:But a regeneration that did something to cause other Doctors (or maybe just Eleven) to strip him of his title? I love that idea. There's definitely enough darkness in him as a whole to do something like that. Yeah, its actually brilliant. I didnt like the last episode too much (despite all the cool continuity stuff) but the notion of the Doctor's name being struck from one incarnation is really cool.
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# ? May 19, 2013 18:01 |
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I'm still jumping on the bandwagon that he's 0 and why 1 and Susan had to leave. loving stoked for November to come around already.
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# ? May 19, 2013 19:38 |
Gau posted:Count me as one of the people who wants Hurt to be the ninth incarnation. The idea of Eight fighting in the Time War always just struck me as...goofy. I like Eight, but Paul McGann vs. Daleks is just not something I can envision. You should listen to some of the Big Finish audios - especially the later ones. He can really turn on a dime and suddenly become very shouty and frightening. He's the stereotypical 'nice' incarnation, but he's definitely got a mean side to him.
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# ? May 19, 2013 20:10 |
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Might be interesting if 8 regenerated on purpose, knowing he needed a harder edge regeneration to handle the Time War.
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# ? May 19, 2013 20:37 |
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HonorableTB posted:Oh man, I hope they go that route people seem to be talking about where Hurt's Doctor is the real 9th Doctor. It wouldn't even be disagreeable with established canon as far as Smith being 11, because of the dialogue at the end where Smith said "You didn't do it in the name of the DOCTOR" which leads me to believe that, Time Lord regeneration or not, you don't count as a continuation of that specific Time Lord unless you maintain the promise you make when you take your name. I could see less number fuckery with him being 8 in his later years. A theory I liked from the old thread is that the Doctor played good little soldier in the Time Wars. He did a lot of horrible poo poo to the Daleks and for the Time Lords, and he lived a long life through the whole of the Time War. Then, something happens and he concludes the only way he can really "end" the war is a time lock. He locks both sides in an endless time loop. Maybe, realizing what he's done, he wanders the universe, ashamed, and somehow dies. Ends up as Nine, goes to Earth, meets Rose, and does his best to forget that time ever happened. Explains his almost PTSD-nature. He's done some horrible poo poo, so he disavows the later half of his life (i.e the "900 years old" constantly being said to be inaccurate). What makes me feel this could be true is that Nine was so ready to eradicate the Daleks in the first NuWho finale, but then he has a change of heart. A few thousand human lives worth more than the Daleks? Or maybe he knows how easy it is to slip back into his old ways? So he doesn't do it. And when he regenerates, this time he can do it with a clean conscience. Although if the "McGann regeneration" scene is true, that won't mesh and maybe the "He was stripped of his title so there are only 11 DOCTORS, but 11 regenerations total", but this makes Matt the Valeyard, because it's his penultimate regeneration. SombreroAgnew posted:Baker, McCoy and McGann have denied it repeatedly and were in Australia during filming, but filming a brief cameo wouldn't take long and they could have just been covering. I'd say of everyone Baker is the least likely though, have you seen that guy? I could see this being plausible if even only as minor cameos. I mean Eccleston didn't want to do the whole ep but who knows if he just walked out or if someone said "Can we at least get a 30 second shot of you post-regeneration, since we never gave Paul McGann a proper one into you?" I loved Nine, so I'm just getting my hopes up
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# ? May 19, 2013 20:42 |
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Gau posted:Count me as one of the people who wants Hurt to be the ninth incarnation. The idea of Eight fighting in the Time War always just struck me as...goofy. In Nine's first appearance we know he didn't fight in the Time War as he sees his new face for the first time in the mirror at Rose's apartment.
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# ? May 19, 2013 20:47 |
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Rhyno posted:In Nine's first appearance we know he didn't fight in the Time War as he sees his new face for the first time in the mirror at Rose's apartment. He never actually says "new face" IIRC (and I just watched the episode a few days ago, so I hope I didn't miss it). He looks into a mirror and comments on his appearance, but that doesn't mean it's the first time.
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# ? May 19, 2013 20:59 |
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EvilHawk posted:He never actually says "new face" IIRC (and I just watched the episode a few days ago, so I hope I didn't miss it). He looks into a mirror and comments on his appearance, but that doesn't mean it's the first time. Every Doctor in the new series so far has made some comment about their physical form after regenerating.
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# ? May 19, 2013 21:02 |
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EvilHawk posted:He never actually says "new face" IIRC (and I just watched the episode a few days ago, so I hope I didn't miss it). He looks into a mirror and comments on his appearance, but that doesn't mean it's the first time. Uh, he directly comments on it, even says "shame about the ears."
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# ? May 19, 2013 21:07 |
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The scene was certainly intended to imply a recent regeneration but I suppose you could argue that it was just the first time he'd had the opportunity to look in a mirror.
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# ? May 20, 2013 04:30 |
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Actually it really works with a fresh regeneration because he's still wearing the same jacket hurt wears. Granted, all his other solo adventures shown in the scene with Clive undercut that, but I quite like the fan theory that he had them after Rose tells him no and then pops back after being all weird and morbid on his own.
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# ? May 20, 2013 04:35 |
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So did The Name of the Doctor depict all of his regenerations except McGann? That's either setting up something, or a pretty big dick move.
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# ? May 20, 2013 06:01 |
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Chairman Capone posted:So did The Name of the Doctor depict all of his regenerations except McGann? That's either setting up something, or a pretty big dick move. McGann was depicted.
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# ? May 20, 2013 06:03 |
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Yeah, he was in the San Francisco(?) scene with Troughton. He immediately walks in front of Clara before Troughton runs past her. It's not clear if it's him or not, but later in the episode during the replay of those bits, the Clara's "again and again and again" dialogue hit the "agains" when meeting the Doctor, and the guy who looks like 8 is one of those. So that means 2 and 8 had a Two Doctors thing apparently at some point. Get on it Big Finish!
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# ? May 20, 2013 06:16 |
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Is anyone else really upset at Moffat retconning the whole new series? I feel incredibly (perhaps irriationally) angry about it. I know some people claim that Moffat's "always" had the plan of introducing the Hurt Doctor, but to me it just feels like Moffat had a story that he wanted to tell about the Time War, couldn't get Eccleston to come back for it, and decided "Hey, I'm showrunner, I'll do what I want!" and made up a new Doctor for himself to play with. I like Hurt, don't get me wrong; I'd have loved to see him play Doctor number twelve, but this just seems unnecessarily contradictory. [Edit] Oh, and also, is there any official reason they don't tap McGann more? I know he likes playing The Doctor, and seems generally well-liked (at least as much as Colin's Doctor, probably more). I just don't get it. Blasphemeral fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 20, 2013 |
# ? May 20, 2013 19:01 |
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People sure are OCD about numbers getting complicated.
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# ? May 20, 2013 19:20 |
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Blasphemeral posted:
I've no idea for sure, but I've heard that they have an issue with Fox over the rights to the TV movie. I don't know anything about copyright law, but who knows. Blasphemeral posted:
I sometimes get a very Lost feel from Moffat, where he really doesn't know what the overall plan is, or he does and it's just a super weak pay off. All I know is that this finale was the first episode of Doctor Who I was excited for in a long time, and while I enjoyed it, it still felt like it could have been more. There are many complaints here and elsewhere about Clara and the lack of character, Moffat and the lack of planning, the split season and the lack of budget, but whatever the reason, for me the show seemed to have lost a little of the magic it had. Even under RTD and the big stupid pay offs he would bring, I was always excited for the next episode. I hated End of Time part 1, but still couldn't help but to feel an anticipation of how it would end. I can't pinpoint why I do not get this way currently, even though I like Smith's doctor a smidgen more than Tennant. I got a hint of that nostalgia feeling at the end of this episode, ironically after all this time, with the introduction of Hurt. Couple that with the rumors of the 50th that I am, even without the old Doctors starring in it, excited for November. I am hoping this season was just a fluke, because I had little interest in it like I did with 5 and 6. So, I guess after this rambling, all I can say is that I am optimistic about the future seasons, no matter who runs it or who is starring in it.
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# ? May 20, 2013 19:20 |
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Well, at least Tennant knows a good photobomb opportunity when he sees one! edit:Although that may be shopped in.
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# ? May 21, 2013 23:27 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:02 |
^^^ That photo is a few years old and the original had no Tennant sadly.
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# ? May 21, 2013 23:43 |