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BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.
Just added myself to the DA list. PSN is PrjctD_Captain. Pawn Nyra is fairly low level at 30 with ok Inclinations I keep forgetting to fix. Any help would be much appreciated, especially since I'm bumming off the Queens Gown from the import bonus for armour on her.

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EGSunBro
Nov 1, 2012

PEPSI FOR TV-GAME
Just added myself to the XBLive list. My pawn is currently dressed terribly, but hey at least she has Scather/Utilitarian! How do I use the right of metamorphosis I just bought Johnathon?

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

EGSunBro posted:

Just added myself to the XBLive list. My pawn is currently dressed terribly, but hey at least she has Scather/Utilitarian! How do I use the right of metamorphosis I just bought Johnathon?

It's in the main menu after the title screen.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

epitasis posted:

My pawn-picking is basically appearance >> inclination > skills > foe/quest knowledge >> stats.

This too for me, except I put pawn name high up there too. My roommate is usually in the living room with me when I play, and I really don't want to have to put up with her questions as to why I'm killing dragons with "Fagette" and "N-Word Jim."

Though it did result in a hilarious argument on whether it was more racist to hire or to not hire N-Word Jim just because of his name.

Flumpus
Jul 22, 2007

BrightWing posted:

Just added myself to the DA list. PSN is PrjctD_Captain. Pawn Nyra is fairly low level at 30 with ok Inclinations I keep forgetting to fix. Any help would be much appreciated, especially since I'm bumming off the Queens Gown from the import bonus for armour on her.

I'll add you tonight and see how she does in Bitterblack...

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Dr. Abysmal posted:

A lot of people hire pawns based entirely on how cool they look and they don't care about stats or inclinations (as evidenced by how many Guardians exist). The princess dress is probably hurting more than it's helping when it comes to attracting people to hire your pawn.

Utilitarian will still be up front when you switch vocations, you'll need to chug more potions to switch an aggressive inclination out in front of Utilitarian.

How would a Utilitarian behave, do you think, without any 'utility' type abilities?

Paying for a couple potions at any given time so that Scather and Challenger could swap spots for Utilitarian doesn't seem all that bad though. Got to do something with that pile of RC that the original DD save file nets me.

Karanas
Jul 17, 2011

Euuuuuuuugh
So I got some sort of greatshield for mystic knights from the Ur-Dragon and I have no use for it. If anyone interested just give me a shout. I'm on the 360, but I'm not sure how I can give it to a pawn that can't use it.

TehGherkin
May 24, 2008

Count Uvula posted:

Did you rest after sending her back? That's when it uploads all the info on your pawn rentals.

Thanks, I think that must've been it! Hopefully it was.

I'm gonna hop on for a while longer this evening, so if anyone on 360 has a nice healbot I can use, that'd be super appreciated. If not, drop your pawn regardless of level (<60 or less though, please) and vocation and I'll try and have some fun with them and drop some screens later.

Wonderslug
Apr 3, 2011

You don't say.
Fallen Rib

Karanas posted:

So I got some sort of greatshield for mystic knights from the Ur-Dragon and I have no use for it. If anyone interested just give me a shout. I'm on the 360, but I'm not sure how I can give it to a pawn that can't use it.

Equipment specific to hybrid classes is impossible to trade for exactly that reason.

Which is unfortunate because switching from sorcerer to magic archer for round two of BBI is pretty painful with the scrawny gear I had squirreled away, even with it dragonforged. And the magic bows have been buffed? Yow.

I mean, granted, I get some decent crowd control and I attack way faster and ricocheting lightning in a tiny room is hilarious, and actually getting a sorcerer spell off in some rooms feels like marginally better odds than winning the lottery, but one-shotting a gorechimera with a basic, un-charged Gicel is a pretty tough act to follow.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Trip report on trying to farm cursed items by using Master Thief on a chained Gorecyclops: It does work, but the cursed items are such a rare drop it probably isn't worth it. You do get a shitton of Gorecyclops materials though, which depending on how much they sell for, this could be a decent way of farming gold.

EDIT: Also the cyclops appears to only drop novelties, not armor like I thought. Maybe the ones later on drop better stuff, I'm using the one in Midnight Helix.

EDIT: Final haul after 15 minutes was 2 Lvl 2 Novelties and 1 Lvl 3 Novelty. Got 600k worth of materials as well. If I put all my stuff in storage and went naked I think I could probably bring back 1 million in materials.

RatHat fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 21, 2013

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
Any tips on items or spells for my healbot mage main pawn? He just maxed out his Mage vocation, and he's pretty boring. Should I have him dip into sorcerer to pick up some more offensive spells while I rent a healer? And where can I find better armor so he's not so squishy?

Gamertag is ChrisBrimstone.

And I agree the progression is nuts. I went from killing bandits to cyclops in 5 levels.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

5er posted:

How would a Utilitarian behave, do you think, without any 'utility' type abilities?

Paying for a couple potions at any given time so that Scather and Challenger could swap spots for Utilitarian doesn't seem all that bad though. Got to do something with that pile of RC that the original DD save file nets me.

I can't speak from first hand experience as I never tried it (I keep my pawn on Scather/Challenger, and it never changes), I've heard people say that they'll focus more on doing stuff like grabbing and holding enemies so you can attack them or using support skills like the one where they launch you to grab onto giant monsters.

EGSunBro
Nov 1, 2012

PEPSI FOR TV-GAME
Haha, did the hydra really leave a note on the notice board for me? I was expecting something quite different from a snake monster challenging me to a duel.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Finally got a decent action shot of my pawn. I really hope Deep Down includes a better screenshot system.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

epitasis posted:

My pawn-picking is basically appearance >> inclination > skills > foe/quest knowledge >> stats.

I have a few hard and fast rules when it comes to pawns, namely that they must be wearing clothes and they must not be small children.

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

One shotting a gorechimera with ninefold bolt feels good man.

EGSunBro
Nov 1, 2012

PEPSI FOR TV-GAME
So I found the Chamber of Lament in the Everfall. The Ur Dragon landed and immediately took off. Reentering didn't make him come back. What happened and how do I get Ur back so I can kill it?

Flumpus
Jul 22, 2007

Bakalakadaka posted:

One shotting a gorechimera with ninefold bolt feels good man.

How does one go about getting ninefold bolt? I assume it's something in BBI, which I'm currently going through, but I'd love to seek this out specifically...

screech on the beach
Mar 9, 2004

Flumpus posted:

How does one go about getting ninefold bolt? I assume it's something in BBI, which I'm currently going through, but I'd love to seek this out specifically...

Purify Bitterblack Gear for a shot at skill earrings.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Karanas posted:

So I got some sort of greatshield for mystic knights from the Ur-Dragon and I have no use for it. If anyone interested just give me a shout. I'm on the 360, but I'm not sure how I can give it to a pawn that can't use it.

You can't trade hybrid specific gear, unfortunately. Pawns can't become Mystic Knights, so you can't equip it on them, which is the only way to trade armor/weapons.

Count Chocula posted:

Any tips on items or spells for my healbot mage main pawn? He just maxed out his Mage vocation, and he's pretty boring. Should I have him dip into sorcerer to pick up some more offensive spells while I rent a healer? And where can I find better armor so he's not so squishy?

Gamertag is ChrisBrimstone.

Going into Sorcerer is a fantastic idea. You want to max it out so that you can get the Conservation (less stamina used per spell), Acuity (20% more magic), and Articulacy (15% faster cast speed, stacks with Wyrmking's Ring) augments. When you pick those up and switch your pawn back to mage, he'll be significantly better off.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Chard posted:

Do online pawns somehow scale in level to what you're looking for? I hired somebody's Jack yesterday who was all tricked out in spiky red armor with a giant :fuckoff: hammer of some kind... at level 10. My dude at level ten had base armor rags and a rusty shield. Am I playing this game wrong or something?

I have a character that's on her fourth playthrough, with an inventory stuffed full of end-game drops. I also have a low-level character on an alternate PSN account, whom I could hire and outfit with super rad gear if I wanted. He / she may have done something like that with their pawn. Unless you have a high-level benefactor, Arisen and main pawn will look like battle hobos for quite a while.

e: clarity

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Dr. Abysmal posted:

I can't speak from first hand experience as I never tried it (I keep my pawn on Scather/Challenger, and it never changes), I've heard people say that they'll focus more on doing stuff like grabbing and holding enemies so you can attack them or using support skills like the one where they launch you to grab onto giant monsters.

I loving love that actually, so I might keep it.

So, I got home from work about half an hour ago, fired up the game, dicked around with the characteristic adjusting potions, and hit the inn. Holy poo poo, it was Christmas. Thank you goons!

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei

I have Heaven's Key, a holy dagger. With it equipped I have 834 Strength and 1420 Magick rating. I also have Dragon's Vein, a regular dagger, which leaves me at 1297 Strength if equipped. I assume Heaven's Key does more total damage against an enemy with no holy resistance, is that right or is there a more complicated formula at work? Also if a pawn uses something like Fire Affinity, does it stack with or overwrite the inherent enhancement?

Smarmy Coworker
May 10, 2008

by XyloJW

epitasis posted:

My pawn-picking is basically appearance >> inclination > skills > foe/quest knowledge >> stats.

I always check a pawn's skills first ever since I hired a level 80 fighter with the two starting skills and nothing else.

who the gently caress does this poo poo

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Ojetor posted:

I have Heaven's Key, a holy dagger. With it equipped I have 834 Strength and 1420 Magick rating. I also have Dragon's Vein, a regular dagger, which leaves me at 1297 Strength if equipped. I assume Heaven's Key does more total damage against an enemy with no holy resistance, is that right or is there a more complicated formula at work? Also if a pawn uses something like Fire Affinity, does it stack with or overwrite the inherent enhancement?

Yeah, Heaven's Key will do more damage 99% of the time since barely any enemies have a significant amount of holy resistance. And enchants will stack, and change the element.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

ARACHNOTRON posted:

I always check a pawn's skills first ever since I hired a level 80 fighter with the two starting skills and nothing else.

who the gently caress does this poo poo

Someone who's training their pawn in that class for the first time? They're definitely unattractive as pawns and I avoid them. What blows my mind are people who don't even bother to equip the starting skills!

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

ARACHNOTRON posted:

I always check a pawn's skills first ever since I hired a level 80 fighter with the two starting skills and nothing else.

who the gently caress does this poo poo

On the subject of fighters with only 2 skills, I'd just like to mention that my fighter pawn's performance increased drastically when I got rid of everything except Dragon's Maw and Heavenward Lash (she uses this one extremely rarely, only to reach things above her). I also stick Shield Drum on there when I'm a sorcerer which isn't especially effective but every tiny bit that helps me finish casting High Gicel is alright by me.

Pawns seem to use other fighter skills very poorly. A lot of this seems to be because they don't tend to move your pawn forward with each strike like basic attacks do, so they end up missing a lot. Happens with Dragon's Maw too but it's good enough to be worth it. Burst Strike is a skill they use and land very often, but typically they'll end up doing more with normal attacks/more Dragon's Maw, and there seems to be this lovely AI quirk where they'll waste time moving a few feet away from a target they're attacking, then Burst Strike back to it. Defensive shield skills seem really terrible on them. They use them when they don't need to and don't use them when they need to. Better off relying on their enemy knowledge to let them perfect block stuff.

I feel like my pawn probably gets hired less because people see that I only have 2-3 skills equipped and think it's garbage, when it really works a lot better.

Smarmy Coworker
May 10, 2008

by XyloJW

Lotish posted:

Someone who's training their pawn in that class for the first time? They're definitely unattractive as pawns and I avoid them. What blows my mind are people who don't even bother to equip the starting skills!

There is no way your pawn doesn't have three or four levels in Fighter at the point you can change classes, since that's what they start out as. It was seriously just Blink Strike / Shield Drum!!

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Don't know who rented my pawn but thank you, the 70k crystals will help a lot.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

ARACHNOTRON posted:

There is no way your pawn doesn't have three or four levels in Fighter at the point you can change classes, since that's what they start out as. It was seriously just Blink Strike / Shield Drum!!

No? Your pawn can start out as Fighter, Mage or Strider.

Smarmy Coworker
May 10, 2008

by XyloJW
That's weird because I'm pretty sure I was never given the option.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
You probably just missed it, it was when you were making your pawn.

Cowboybot
Sep 27, 2007
On a steel horse I ride
I'd like to ask people to rent my pawn Adiric (Hien) if possible. I added him to the Google list, and I'm curious what people think. I have him as a strider just now, and am thinking of swapping him over to Ranger to help out in BBI and everfall.


Looking for comments, thoughts, stuff like that =D GT is Cowboybot. Friend me up!

Flumpus
Jul 22, 2007
Ok, I have what might be a dumb question... I just opened up the second shortcut in Bitterblack Isle, and there's that broken rift stone. Why would I pay to repair it? There's one by the other shortcut which I already repaired, and the one at the entrance. Is there some sort of reward for repairing all of them?

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
How the gently caress do I deal with petrification on my pawns? I can't use items on them and it seems they're to stupid to use one themselves. I just lost my main and 2 good pubby ones to the loving cockatrice in BBI.

I killed the stupid thing solo out of anger. :argh:

Cowboybot
Sep 27, 2007
On a steel horse I ride
I just repair them as I come across them. It's a drop in the bucket and sometimes make it easier to go back and grab more pawns.

Flumpus
Jul 22, 2007
Fair enough... I'm not hurting for RC, just wasn't sure if there was something I was missing in repairing them, or if it was just a convenience thing.

And here's a terrible screenshot of me and my pawn, two fashionable ladies, making our way through BBI.

Cowboybot
Sep 27, 2007
On a steel horse I ride

Alteisen posted:

How the gently caress do I deal with petrification on my pawns? I can't use items on them and it seems they're to stupid to use one themselves. I just lost my main and 2 good pubby ones to the loving cockatrice in BBI.

I killed the stupid thing solo out of anger. :argh:

I just give them a petrification cure (secret Softener) when they complain. I've had my main pawn use it when almost completely stone

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Alteisen posted:

How the gently caress do I deal with petrification on my pawns? I can't use items on them and it seems they're to stupid to use one themselves. I just lost my main and 2 good pubby ones to the loving cockatrice in BBI.

I killed the stupid thing solo out of anger. :argh:

They should use Softeners if you give them to them before they're fully petrified, but there's a curative called Cockatrice Liqueur that cures petrification on your whole party. If you're a Sorcerer or Magick Archer you can also cure them yourself(High Voidspell and High Ward Arrow).

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Azaael
Jan 15, 2013

Coffee?
Got a few more screenies that I had taken before after I remembered my capcom account info on a new computer.





Clusterfuck of a shot but that's a Garm in the background getting a beatdown.





Another angle of the 'Juggling Two Eliminator' shot. You can't really see the Eliminators except for sort of a leg but there is a decent amount of blood. I have no idea what my Arisen is doing there.(Edit: Probably trying to figure out how my pawn's lantern is hovering in midair.)





Dark, but I think the churchy look fit the big guy.

And re: Petrification-I usually give them a couple Softners each if I'm heading to a Petrify fight, and keep a couple Cockatrice Liquors on hand as well. Usually when I give them the Softners they use them regardless of inclination, but I'm not sure how exactly that works or not since I've heard stories of them sitting there staring at the potions as they're turning to stone with no doubt a stupid look on their faces.

Azaael fucked around with this message at 03:41 on May 21, 2013

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