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X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

the worst goddamn programmers are the ones who poo poo all over other developer's worth because that developer once made a bug that was probably leftover code from an old change or something. people make bugs all the time and u probably make the worst.

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X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

you mean, changes to code can make code ugly and sometimes introduce new bugs?? can we get a mod in here??????

# ? May 20, 2013 13:58

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

AWWNAW posted:

can any of yout errible programmers tell me why needful never gets done

because types are stupid, and this language's == operator is broken

# ? May 20, 2013 14:09

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

Tiny Bug Child posted:

because types are stupid, and this language's == operator is broken

Tiny Bug Child posted:

_{Avoid Symmetry, Allow

Complexity, Introduce Terror}

# ? May 20, 2013 14:11

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

the worst programmers are the programmers that make mistakes and then don't try to understand why the mistake happened. they don't understand what they hell they are typing and when confronted with a problem encrust it with more things they think they understand until the beatings stop.

# ? May 20, 2013 14:18

Mr SuperAwesome: Apr 6, 2011; im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

that is every programmer

# ? May 20, 2013 14:46

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

The worst programmers are the ones who can't/won't read compiler error messages, and instead immediately jump on [whatever programmer forum/site] and ask people how to fix it. Especially when they just paraphrase the error message instead of posting it and the offending code. Especially especially when they're using clang.

# ? May 20, 2013 16:07

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Doc Block posted:

The worst programmers are the ones who can't/won't read compiler error messages, and instead immediately jump on [whatever programmer forum/site] and ask people how to fix it. Especially when they just paraphrase the error message instead of posting it and the offending code. Especially especially when they're using clang.

sometimes you just really need to discover yet a new reason for "segmentation fault"

or whatever that really cryptic mingw error was that i used to get that really just meant 'something somewhere is wrong'

i guess what i'm saying is gently caress c

# ? May 20, 2013 16:39

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Bloody posted:

gently caress c

# ? May 20, 2013 16:41

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

"introduce terror" or like "introduce t'error" like 'the error' all accented or cadenced or w/e

# ? May 20, 2013 20:07

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

That's really an easy mistake to make. If you showed it to him he'd probably see the error immediately.

I mean if he really doesn't understand why it's wrong, then he's a bad program. Looks like he's just human tho

Woops I thought I was replying to a post that was just made. It's back a page. Can you guess which one?

# ? May 20, 2013 20:35

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

JawnV6 posted:

"introduce terror" or like "introduce t'error" like 'the error' all accented or cadenced or w/e

'the' error is php

# ? May 20, 2013 21:03

Mr SuperAwesome: Apr 6, 2011; im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

Bloody posted:

gently caress c

# ? May 20, 2013 21:20

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:

the worst goddamn programmers are the ones who poo poo all over other developer's worth because that developer once made a bug that was probably leftover code from an old change or something. people make bugs all the time and u probably make the worst.

terrible programmer apologist spotted

# ? May 21, 2013 06:38

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

all languages are terrible, much like real life ones

# ? May 21, 2013 06:39

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

poo poo i guess i might add the guy spent a week "testing" that "code" but i guess my standards are too high

# ? May 21, 2013 06:41

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

test on production

# ? May 21, 2013 06:42

Sniep: Mar 28, 2004; All I needed was that fatty blunt...

King of Breakfast

gucci void main posted:

test on production

irl this is just shortened to "production"

# ? May 21, 2013 06:44

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

AWWNAW posted:

how about a true life terrible programmer story

found a painful bug in production yesterday written by a "senior developer" coworker
code:
object integerValue = datagridrow[hardcodednumber].value;
object oldIntegerValue = datagridrow[anotherhardcodednumber].value;
if (integerValue == oldIntegerValue)
{
    DoNeedful();
}
can any of yout errible programmers tell me why needful never gets done

i hope this post makes you a better program

shalom

you are talking about this right. Anyway idk what language or whatnot that is but my guess as to why DoNeedful wasn't executed would be that datagridrow[hardcodednumber].value does not == datagridrow[anotherhardcodednumber].value

that seems pretty straightforward. I'm not sure if im missing some typo or secret or something.

# ? May 21, 2013 06:47

Papes: Apr 13, 2010; There's always something at the bottom of the bag.

I thought it was because the if statement was comparing two objects for equality which doesn't make any sense.

# ? May 21, 2013 06:55

CamH: Apr 11, 2008

Ronald Raiden posted:

you are talking about this right. Anyway idk what language or whatnot that is but my guess as to why DoNeedful wasn't executed would be that datagridrow[hardcodednumber].value does not == datagridrow[anotherhardcodednumber].value

that seems pretty straightforward. I'm not sure if im missing some typo or secret or something.

lol

# ? May 21, 2013 06:55

CamH: Apr 11, 2008

Papes posted:

I thought it was because the if statement was comparing two objects for equality which doesn't make any sense.

i believe that u can do this in javascript

# ? May 21, 2013 06:56

CamH: Apr 11, 2008

CamH posted:

i believe that u can do this in javascript

hell yeah

>var test = { test : "test" }
undefined
>var otherTest = test
undefined
>test == otherTest
true

# ? May 21, 2013 06:58

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

object a = 1;
object b = 1;
a == b //false

# ? May 21, 2013 07:02

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

this is how it works in steve baller's java or some call it C-Sharp

# ? May 21, 2013 07:03

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Ronald Raiden posted:

you are talking about this right. Anyway idk what language or whatnot that is but my guess as to why DoNeedful wasn't executed would be that datagridrow[hardcodednumber].value does not == datagridrow[anotherhardcodednumber].value

that seems pretty straightforward. I'm not sure if im missing some typo or secret or something.

finally some terrible programmers in this thread

# ? May 21, 2013 07:10

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

y'all just got trolled

# ? May 21, 2013 07:23

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

Papes posted:

I thought it was because the if statement was comparing two objects for equality which doesn't make any sense.

It depends on the language. Most modern high level languages have sane object equality comparison, which would allow 2 different objects with thesame value tobe equal. Generally, in languages that allow that, the notion of identity comparison, which is what you are referring to, is different. (for instance, 'is' in python)

# ? May 21, 2013 07:47

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

Java has that too only it does it backwards. The less common usecase, identity comparison, is the operator '==', while the more useful one is the object method object.equals. Also java generics suck.

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X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

gucci void main posted:

all languages are terrible, much like real life ones

idk if you got lucky with this statement or what but it kinda implies that ur not a terrible programmer anymore

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MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

There's no terrible languages. Only terrible people like everyone in this thread.

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Deus Rex: Mar 5, 2005

CamH posted:

hell yeah

>var test = { test : "test" }
undefined
>var otherTest = test
undefined
>test == otherTest
true

yes but you're comparing two references to the same object there. since test and otherTest are equal in the sense that they refer to the same object, the equality holds.

JavaScript code:

var test = { test: 'test' },
    otherTest = { test: 'test' };

test == otherTest; // false
_.isEqual(test, otherTest); // true, [url]http://lodash.com/docs#isEqual[/url]

# ? May 21, 2013 10:46

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

MeruFM posted:

There's no terrible languages. Only terrible people like everyone in this thread.

no, they're all loving terrible and much of the communities are especially terrible. it varies greatly but the only redeeming thing about the profession is the money as long as you can tolerate insufferable nerds with autism

I'm not familiar with the java/.net communities, but I'm going to assume that the normalcy of a community is inversely proportional to how far it's trying to get away from corporate culture

# ? May 21, 2013 15:01

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

gucci void main posted:

no, they're all loving terrible and much of the communities are especially terrible. it varies greatly but the only redeeming thing about the profession is the money as long as you can tolerate insufferable nerds with autism

I'm not familiar with the java/.net communities, but I'm going to assume that the normalcy of a community is inversely proportional to how far it's trying to get away from corporate culture

in my (limited) experience, the perl community is pretty sensible :shrug:

# ? May 21, 2013 15:02

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

prefect posted:

in my (limited) experience, the perl community is pretty sensible

probably because its a bunch of old dudes from the 80s who just truly loved the profession. they're just nerds and not toy language startup zealots

# ? May 21, 2013 15:05

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

prefect posted:

in my (limited) experience, the perl community is pretty sensible

if you love regular expressions, have i got a language for you

# ? May 21, 2013 15:16

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

chumpchous posted:

if you love regular expressions, have i got a language for you

i do like regular expressions, and get a bit depressed when people reflexively act like they're wizard magic :smith:

# ? May 21, 2013 15:19

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

wizard magic, yes, that's my problem with regular expressions

(tbqh i don't really know a better way to parse lots of text, i guess my solution to regular expressions is to get a job that doesn't involve parsing a lot of text).

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Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

regex suck because they are completely unreadable and unless you have decades of autism are also completely unwriteable

# ? May 21, 2013 15:24

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DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

the reason regex are so popular in perl is because regex syntax is actually much better than perl syntax

# ? May 21, 2013 15:30

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