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Aeka 2.0 posted:What is the explanation these chem trail tards have for where the chemicals are loaded? Plane fueling and loading are done by minimum wage workers with no super top secret clearance. No work force of that size and kind would be quiet. Everyone is quite aware of what everyone is doing around a plane. To quote one of my co-workers, in regard to why no one involved in the 9/11 conspiracy really spoke about the whole deal: quote:Dude, those poor guys get threatened by the Illuminati and if they don't do their jobs they'll get killed and dumped in a ditch! Have you ever considered your choices in such a situation? Either you do what they tell you or you're dead! No, it doesn't make sense and the same people can't really ask my questions about why chemtrails are effective in any way if that stuff gets sprayed out a few thousand feet over the ground - but the conspiracy is totally there dude!
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Aeka 2.0 posted:What is the explanation these chem trail tards have for where the chemicals are loaded? Plane fueling and loading are done by minimum wage workers with no super top secret clearance. No work force of that size and kind would be quiet. Everyone is quite aware of what everyone is doing around a plane. I always assumed it supposed to be in the fuel or something, but I guess not? Wow it's even dumber than I thought.
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muike posted:I always assumed it supposed to be in the fuel or something, but I guess not? Wow it's even dumber than I thought. Well of course the chemicals are stored in exploding fuel, it preserves their freshness.
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The Illuminati want you to believe in Chemtrails, because the more effort you put into your mental gymnastics to confirm that conspiracy, the less attention you will pay to real conspiracies.
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darthbob88 posted:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=paulbomb First result. I'll be honest, I couldn't find it when I googled it, because I was googling "Ron Paul bomb." I didn't even consider making it one word. 
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I remember when I was a child my parents explained to me why airplanes sometimes pulled those long white lines behind them. My five year old self was better educated than some of those people.
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thegalagakid posted:I've been keeping a collection of Facebook Derp. This one popped up today from some self described patriot Are conservatives really blaming the credit rating downgrade on Obama? Man, that takes some balls.
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If Obama hadn't had the gall to be elected the Republicans wouldn't have been forced to try and burn the country to the ground.
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Sardine Wit posted:Are conservatives really blaming the credit rating downgrade on Obama? Man, that takes some balls. The president literally controls everything and he could fix it all in an evening but Obama chooses not to because he hates America.
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thegalagakid posted:I've been keeping a collection of Facebook Derp. This one popped up today from some self described patriot Even if any of that were true, worst President in American history is quite a stretch.
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I think the worst thing about Obama's presidency is that time he burst into an FBI interrogation room and started hysterically screaming Miranda rights at Dzokhar Tsarnaev while the Secret Service tried to drag him out. The second-worst thing is his policy of over-regulating businesses. I know three separate small restaurateurs who have been shut down by the Obama administration for not serving Dijon mustard.
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Sardine Wit posted:Are conservatives really blaming the credit rating downgrade on Obama? Man, that takes some balls. Yea that one jumped out at me too. That one and the 6 trillionzomgdollarbillz!!!!11. It's pretty obvious this guy just flatly ignored why that happened. The thread has grown to be quite epic on the Facebook side. I posted verbatim your post here because it's pretty excellent, and the response I got was, well, about what you'd expect.  George W Bush is the best, except when he's not
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I like the really really extremely vague and extremely broad ones. "Failed energy policies"  Uhhh, care to elaborate? I mean all they could probably follow up with is a "SOLYNDRA!" but still.
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Ask them if they really consider this the highest sustained unemployment ever in history, with this graph: If they say something about the decline there, point out that what caused that decline and economic recovery was the New Deal and World War 2, and massive sustained government spending, and then ask them if what they really wanted was for Obama to spend more stimulus money. That should be good.
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A lot of conservative history revisionists now try and argue the New Deal actually made things worse because it didn't get immediate results only WW2 is to credit. It's baffling but anything to not admit stimulus packages can work.
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Yea, but WW2 only proves the point of Keynes. It was the ultimate stimulus program.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:What is the explanation these chem trail tards have for where the chemicals are loaded? Plane fueling and loading are done by minimum wage workers with no super top secret clearance. No work force of that size and kind would be quiet. Everyone is quite aware of what everyone is doing around a plane. 1.) they actually aren't minimum wage drone but highly paid government agents posing as ground handlers. Their silence is purchased with money - and vaccinations against the chemicals. 2.) the chemicals are dispersed as a fine mist from the leading edge of the wing so it only looks harmless. The "best" part of chemtrail people and conspiracy theorists in general are the mental gymnastics.
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Doctor Butts posted:Yea, but WW2 only proves the point of Keynes. It was the ultimate stimulus program. No but you see it's not Keynesian if you're shooting people.
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myron cope posted:Are the usual suspects crowing about needing to find offsets in the budget before we can send aid to those affected? I'm glad you asked, because this was my first reaction. For those who aren't aware, the person who derails every disaster relief effort since his election in 2006 is Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn. Coburn is the most consistent Senator I've ever seen. He will use anonymous holds to stop any bill if it's unpaid for--Haitian relief, Ugandan relief, Sri Lankan relief, Sandy, Katrina, 9/11 First Responders, he doesn't give one poo poo. He will and has held up emergency aid for months over budget concerns. He's even sided with Democrats when it was a military thing that was overbudget. One of the only pieces of legislation that Obama sponsored as a Senator was the Coburn/Obama Transparency Act, to reduce spending on campaigns. So this should come as no surprise. quote:
EBT posted:Why is it every Madison county is economically depressed, white as a republican, and filled with signs expressing bad opinions. Actually, the joke is that Madison is not economically depressed. It's the richest county in the state. Every building has ornate statuary, steeples, and fountains--it's part of the zoning regulations or whatever, so even chain restaurants/box stores have to comply. The Wendy's by the highway looks like a tiny cathedral. I stopped in at the mall, because they have the only Five Guys in the state, and I felt like I was going to get escorted out for vagrancy. It's the epitome of the rich Mississippian, because it's adjacent to the capital, so all the politicians live there, and commute into one of the poorest, blackest, major cities in the country. A city that has stayed in the top 5 for murder in the US for decades. The segregation is clearly visible as you drive through.
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Oklah. GOP Senator takes own constituents hostage, demands budget cuts or no tornado aid
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Should I take some pics? Setup a Virtual Riches to Poverty Tour? "Hey, how destitute can a beautiful area become in 10 miles or less?" Minds would be loving blown. The most expensive restaurant in town is literally one block away from "holy gently caress I'm gonna get shot". ed A friend of mine wanted to open a Schlotzsky's in Madison and was told that it was too low brow by the mayor. This is a town with something like five trashy Tex Mex joints, an Applebee's, and plenty of fast food.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Should I take some pics? Setup a Virtual Riches to Poverty Tour? "Hey, how destitute can a beautiful area become in 10 miles or less?" America is riddled with areas like this bordering major urban centers. The Detroit/Grosse Point border is similar, but I'd be interested in seeing the MS version regardless.
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thegalagakid posted:Yea that one jumped out at me too. That one and the 6 trillionzomgdollarbillz!!!!11. It's pretty obvious this guy just flatly ignored why that happened. The thread has grown to be quite epic on the Facebook side. I posted verbatim your post here because it's pretty excellent, and the response I got was, well, about what you'd expect. Ahhh, 9/11. Where a bunch of people who hate America did everything they could to cause as much damage as possible and the president's real crime was seeing it coming and not doing enough to stop it. Can see why it was compared to the credit downgrade.
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vyelkin posted:Ask them if they really consider this the highest sustained unemployment ever in history, with this graph: For bonus points explain how that uptick in 1937 was due to Austerity-like programs.
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I don't suppose there's an obvious Snopes link I'm missing to counter this, is there? I could just go through it point-by-point with her but 
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Doomsayer posted:I don't suppose there's an obvious Snopes link I'm missing to counter this, is there? Any pithy response should be fine. 1. Modern farming usually involves threshing the crop and destroying the seed anyway. Few crops have been harvested since the 1950's in a way that would allow them to reuse seeds anyway. It's no big loss for big farms. 2. That has nothing to do with GMO. Soil infertility has been a problem for a thousand years. Hell, by 1800, farms in South Carolina were turning infertile, because they'd been in continuous production for 300 years. That's why we know to rotate now. Problem solved. 3. Yeah, that is a problem. You might even bioengineer some new crops to fight that problem. 4. Terminator seed technology has never been used, only researched. Also, the last line there is hilarious. I guess infertility is a dominant trait? Can someone show me where infertility fits on a Punnett Square? How does infertility spread? 5. Ask Zimbabwe about the switch from centralized farms to small, local farms. I'll wait while you wiki Robert Mugabe. Of course, the immediate response will be "Oh, I guess you think we should all just bend over for corporations and eat poison and you hate the earth!" Don't let them change the subject from science. E: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/01/17/opinion-my-family-farm-isnt-under-corporate-control/ A family-owned farmer explains why GMO is not what people think it is. XyloJW fucked around with this message at 15:46 on May 21, 2013 |
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thegalagakid posted:I've been keeping a collection of Facebook Derp. This one popped up today from some self described patriot Counterpoint: http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/05/16/economically-could-obama-be-americas-best-president/
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Yeah, the worst president award probably goes to Andrew Jackson in my book, but since he wasn't from the 1970's+ he doesn't count.
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XyloJW posted:Any pithy response should be fine. Thanks, that was what I was afraid I'd have to do, normally I prefer even pithier one-link replies but eh. She's normally fairly sane, so hopefully it'll go alright.
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XyloJW posted:Any pithy response should be fine. Also be prepared to be accused of being paid off by Monsanto. Something about GMO causes people to go into a frenzy.
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Even researching Terminator seeds is loving scary. Imagine a single corporate entity controlling your food supply because farmers can no longer produce their own seeds.
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Wasn't that Monsanto case the US Supreme Court just heard about replanted soybeans? A farmer was buying seed from the co-op and not replanting his own in order to try to get around their licensing fees. He was able to just assume it would be resistant to Roundup since 90% of soy is.
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EightBit posted:Even researching Terminator seeds is loving scary. Imagine a single corporate entity controlling your food supply because farmers can no longer produce their own seeds. Yes but wait till we capture one of the Terminator seeds and use it for OUR side. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR FARM ALIVE, COME WITH ME.
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XyloJW posted:Any pithy response should be fine. 5 is a really lovely, disingenuous reply.
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EightBit posted:Even researching Terminator seeds is loving scary. Imagine a single corporate entity controlling your food supply because farmers can no longer produce their own seeds. Why? Why are they scary aside from being given a scary name? Also you can produce your own seeds, there's nothing Monsanto is doing that would prevent that.
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a foolish pianist posted:5 is a really lovely, disingenuous reply. True. A better response would be that if they really want to switch to local-only foods, they better start only buying foods that are able to grow nearby without any assistance. It's not like centralized farms are being used for no reason and we just like to ship food across the country because, I dunno, we like trucks or something. If it really did make sense to plunk down a shitload of cornfields in Arizona, the big farm companies would have already done so by now. They haven't because it requires more energy (and thus, is more expensive and less environmentally friendly) to run a lot of climate-controlled greenhouses than it does to just grow them where they grow and ship them to where they don't.
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XyloJW posted:Coburn is the most consistent Senator I've ever seen. He will use anonymous holds to stop any bill if it's unpaid for--Haitian relief, Ugandan relief, Sri Lankan relief, Sandy, Katrina, 9/11 First Responders, he doesn't give one poo poo. On the other hand though in 2008 he voted for hundreds of billions to bail out the financial sector with no oversight so his only real consistency is opposing federal aid for poor people. If it goes to the rich, then budget be damned. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 17:45 on May 21, 2013 |
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Well, not exactly an "email" but an office dispute today. We had a new printer delivered by "TTR Shipping". The truck had a giant picture of the owner of the company with the amazing quote "The Government didn't build my business, I did" on it. (remember this?) A Co-Worker decided this is the best thing ever and decided to go on and on about it to everyone. When I merely pointed out that this mans entire shipping business is literally built on the back of the government(the Highway system), and that his employees were probably educated in public schools(evil government again) the guy got upset, mumbled something about dumb liberals, and stormed off. I really wish I snagged a picture of the truck. The guy's smug face was priceless. I feel like I wasn't too out of line. Some people get upset(or impressed I guess) too easily. Dirt fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 21, 2013 |
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ratbert90 posted:Yeah, the worst president award probably goes to Andrew Jackson in my book, but since he wasn't from the 1970's+ he doesn't count. Do you mean Andrew Johnson?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Why? Why are they scary aside from being given a scary name? Actually, Monsanto would prevent you producing your own seeds. Short version: Terminator genes would cause plants grown from GMO plants to be sterile, meaning any seeds taken from them would be useless. This would cripple agriculture in developing countries who rely on keeping seeds from previous harvests and strengthen the stranglehold agricorps have on farming and seed production.
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