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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Guys, they're only accidental or incorrect inputs if the move whiffs :ssh:

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Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

AndyElusive posted:

Guys, they're only accidental or incorrect inputs if the move whiffs :ssh:

I get AA grab with bane constantly because this game counts down->downback as a d->b input (fix this pls nrs). Hoo boy the 1 in 100 times the grab actually lands though, I am the biggest badass in the world.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

AndyElusive posted:

Guys, they're only accidental or incorrect inputs if the move whiffs :ssh:

In my case, the move in question is the game's shittiest dodge. Hooray!

E: 5 hours of Injustice is bad for the psyche. I think I've lost my mind. Every time I close my eyes I can see untechable grabs. I won't sleep tonight.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
I accidentally clash constantly while trying to mb a wakeup move that gets caught in a combo.

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
Good games to everyone in the PSN room sorry I had to jet, I need to eat.

EDIT:

I'm going to upload the fight between Bane and Catwoman.

JackDarko fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 22, 2013

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

gannyGrabber posted:

E: 5 hours of Injustice is bad for the psyche. I think I've lost my mind. Every time I close my eyes I can see untechable grabs. I won't sleep tonight.
You might want to consult your doctor on that. You may have a more serious underlying condition.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


I'm going to link this only because the thought process behind the changes in placement are interesting: http://testyourmight.com/threads/tom-brady-and-reos-injustice-gau-post-patch-tier-list.32886/

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

This means if a Deathstroke beats you now it's not because he's OP it just means you suck.

Dre2Dee2
Dec 6, 2006

Just a striding through Kamen Rider...
Catwoman S tier, YESSS

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*
http://testyourmight.com/threads/batgirl-unblockable-reset.32883/

Batgirl S+ tier :clint:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



I don't understand the people saying it would be "amazing" if they didn't fix it. :sigh: Doesn't anyone want a balanced game besides me?

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

Here to deliver
~Bad Opinions~

Lurdiak posted:

I don't understand the people saying it would be "amazing" if they didn't fix it. :sigh: Doesn't anyone want a balanced game besides me?

Every one would like a very balanced game, but it will never happen. Injustice is already extremely tight, so it's pretty good

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."



This, combined with that earlier glitch I mentioned where she can MB her Bola without having a full segment of meter, should mean this is a touch of death reset loop. I'm sure one or both of those things will be fixed right away, though, along with that Wonder Woman bad data issue, so don't freak out about it.

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*
People had better guess right on her 50/50 :clint:

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche
Oh Flash, how could I ever leave you? There's nothing like beating a Deathstroke spammer using only lightning charges. :allears:

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.

Good job NRS you just released a character more broken than Cyrax. Let's hope you can actually fix her within 10 patches this time.

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*
Here's something you can do right now in Ranked:

Pick batgirl, stay max distance and get fireballed until you have 1 bar of meter (or you know, punch them at the beginning), let them get comfortable and then dd3 mb, j2 b12 d2 bf1, 1, mb, d2, bf1, 1, mb, until they die.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Dosvidanya posted:

Here's something you can do right now in Ranked:

Pick batgirl, stay max distance and get fireballed until you have 1 bar of meter (or you know, punch them at the beginning), let them get comfortable and then dd3 mb, j2 b12 d2 bf1, 1, mb, d2, bf1, 1, mb, until they die.

I'm so glad that NRS patched out rage quit losses right when they accidentally include a death loop for a DLC character. Classic NetherRealm.

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*
And it's a complete "YOU'RE SPAMMING THE SAME MOVE OVER AND OVER" moment.

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
I have absolutely no idea why the frame shakes during this, but it's exciting regardless.

EDIT: Nevermind something went horribly wrong.

This video turned out fine, but the fight isn't as interesting as the other one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvEAfYf6X7g

JackDarko fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 22, 2013

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche

Dosvidanya posted:

Here's something you can do right now in Ranked:

Pick batgirl, stay max distance and get fireballed until you have 1 bar of meter (or you know, punch them at the beginning), let them get comfortable and then dd3 mb, j2 b12 d2 bf1, 1, mb, d2, bf1, 1, mb, until they die.

Someone needs to go on a rampage with this and screenshot every message they get afterwards.

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*

JackDarko posted:

I have absolutely no idea why the frame shakes during this, but it's exciting regardless.

EDIT: Nevermind something went horribly wrong.

edit gone now

The "really?" at the end was wonderful.

Dosvidanya fucked around with this message at 03:29 on May 22, 2013

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."

Dosvidanya posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1SNltJZfw0

The "really?" at the end was wonderful.

Yeah i'm reuploading that video, it got totally messed up in the upload process and even cut short. Sorry about that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2-9ccG7Agg

Here's the Bane vs Catwoman video, totally fixed.

JackDarko fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 22, 2013

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Boon is teasing an announcement for tomorrow

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/336977935187705856

Granted, he says MK but it could be the next DLC character.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

JackDarko posted:

Yeah i'm reuploading that video, it got totally messed up in the upload process and even cut short. Sorry about that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2-9ccG7Agg

Here's the Bane vs Catwoman video, totally fixed.

Haha I was just going nuts a lot of parts there. Lv3 trait being usable now is so nice though!

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Boon is teasing an announcement for tomorrow

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/336977935187705856

Granted, he says MK but it could be the next DLC character.

Ughhh let it be a surprise Marvel character instead of Scorpion.

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
It's MK9 for PC.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
Now announcing Mortal Kombat 10 as a WiiU exclusive!

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


JackDarko posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2-9ccG7Agg

Here's the Bane vs Catwoman video, totally fixed.

Maaaaan, Ganny, if you were doing the optimal damage stuff you would've won.

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

Man, Hawkgirl is the most annoying poo poo to deal with as Grundy. His options against somebody in the air and more than 2 inches from him are severely limited.

Also, I didn't think that the Sinestro trait change was really that big of a deal with the amount they improved its charge speed and holy poo poo was I wrong.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Mr.Unique-Name posted:

Also, I didn't think that the Sinestro trait change was really that big of a deal with the amount they improved its charge speed and holy poo poo was I wrong.

Ya man, I didn't think it was all that slow before when it was 2 seconds but now that it's 1.66 seconds? That's just the icing on the fear cake.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I just got called a spammer and quit on because I hit Nightwing with Bane's d1 3 times in a row. A new low. This was someone with several hundred matches too (who hidden counter picked Nightwing after I chose Bane). I just started laughing.

sponsz
Aug 28, 2005

By the whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch!
So far I'm pretty happy with how Batgirl plays, coming from doomsday it's kinda weird to have so many options when fighting. I don't think anyone blows up zoners as bad as she does at the moment, her teleport doesn't do much damage but you can do it on reaction to almost any ranged attack. Her low/overhead game seems pretty good too.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Batgirl Midscreen Combo Compendium

Just like I did with Green Lantern, I've put together a fairly comprehensive list of Batgirl's midscreen combo starters and her best options off of them for varying amounts of meter. Just like GL, this isn't here to tell you how to play her so much, but just to be a reference for what she is capable of off any given combo starter. Unlike GL's list, however, Batgirl has very different corner combos from her midscreen options, but as I have yet to really put time and effort into working on them and seeing if they can be optimized, they're not being included at this time.

As usual, I have omitted most combos that are merely one normal string into one special. The exception here is any normal string that combos into dd3, just because it's cool and also a meterless untechable knockdown. It's rarely your best option, though, for various reasons.

Important Note!!
Many of Batgirl's combos can go into d2 XX Bola (bf1). Normally, comboing into d2 is an awful idea because of the additional damage scaling, but in this case the Bola causes additional scaling anyway, the scaling increase doesn't seem to stack, and it allows Batgirl to go into a tricky mixup setup. Any time you land a Bola, you can then do j2, 111. Her 111 string is listed at a ridiculous +22 on hit, allowing her a free shot at a b1 low, b2 overhead, a jump-in, or just to back up if you want to make space for some reason.

As such, most of the combos below will first have a max damage variant listed and then have a lead in to this mixup opportunity. As usual, all combos have the damage listed, how much meter they use, and any special notes, e.g. if they don't work on small characters.

Finally, note that any combo that gets too close to the corner and uses b3 will have to be modified in some way, but I'm sure you guys can figure something out from there.

Edit: I lied, one last note. All damage values assume you are in her initial Blade thingy stance, not the Electric Knuckles stance.

With all that said, here's the list. This time, I've bolded the combo starters I think will be most important to her game, as opposed to individual combos.:

d1 starter (8f mid, 0 on block, and bf3 is +1 on block and won't MB on block):
d1 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (33%, 1 meter)
d1 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (30%, 1 meter)


111 starter (7f high, -3 on block, might be punishable between second and third hit):
111 XX dd3 (18%, meterless, untechable knockdown)
111 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (36%, 1 meter)
111 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (35%, forced standing, free b1/b2 mixup)


11u2 starter (7f high, punishable on block, seems like a useless string tbh):
11u2 XX dd3 (18%, meterless, untechable knockdown)
11u2 XX dd3~MB, dash b3, walk forward d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (26%, 1 meter)
11u2 XX super (39%, all meter, huge waste)


12 starter (7f high, -4 on block):
12 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (33%, 1 meter)
12 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (25%, 1 meter)


b12 starter (14f low, -2 on block, second hit might be backdashable?):
b12, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (28%, meterless)
b12, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (21%, meterless)
b12, b2u3, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f2 XX db2~u (32%, meterless)
b12, b2u3, d2 XX bf1, walk forward j2, 111 (26%, meterless)
b12, walk forward f23 XX df2~MB, 212 XX db2~u (38%, one meter)
b12, walk forward f23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (34%, one meter)
^-- Note: For these last two, hit the f23 as late as possible.


b1 XX bf3~MB starter (14f low, +1 on block and the MB won't activate):
b1 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (34%, one meter)
b1 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (31%, one meter)


21 starter (11f mid, +2 on block):
21 XX dd3 (15%, meterless, untechable knockdown)
21 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (34%, one meter)
21 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (32%, one meter)


212 starter (11f mid, -4 on block):
212 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (35%, one meter)
212 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (28%, one meter)


23 starter (11f mid, -3 on block):
23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (33%, one meter)
23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (27%, one meter)


b2u3 starter (15f overhead, the game claims it is -7 on block meaning punishable by most everyone with 1 or d1, however Lex's 6f Corps Charge doesn't punish so I don't know what to think):
b2u3, b2u3, j2, f212 XX db2~u (36%, meterless, doesn't work on smalls, do f21 XX db2~u instead for 34%)
b2u3, b2u3, d2 XX bf1, walk forward j2, 111 (28%, meterless)
b2u3, b2u3, j2, f21 XX df2~MB, f21 XX db2~u (41%, one meter)
b2u3, walk forward f23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (35%, one meter)


b2d3 starter (15f overhead into low, -6 on block meaning punishable by chars with 6f 1 or d1):
b2d3 XX dd3 (15%, meterless, untechable knockdown)
b2d3 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (34%, one meter)
b2d3 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (32%, one meter)


f21 starter (8f mid, -2 on block):
f21 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (36%, one meter)
f21 XX bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (34%, one meter)


f212 starter (8f mid, -4 on block):
f212 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (34%, one meter,)
f212 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (28%, one meter)


f23 starter (8f mid, -2 on block, second hit may be backdashable?):
f23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (39%, one meter)
f23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (31%, one meter)


3 starter (13f mid, +3 on block):
3 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f21 XX db2~u (31%, one meter)
3 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (24%, one meter)


b3 starter 30f mid, MB armorable, +8 on block):
b3, f3 (20%, meterless, UNCLASHABLE)
b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, f212 XX db2~u (34%, meterless)
b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (30%, meterless)
b3, j3, f2 XX df2~MB, 212 XX db2~u (41%, one meter)
b3, j3, f2 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, f212 XX db2~u (40%, one meter)
b3, j3, f2 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (37%, one meter)


f3 starter (28f overhead, MB armorable, +5 on block):
f3, j2, d2 XX bf1, j2, f212 XX db2~u (31%, meterless)
f3, j2, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (27%, meterless)
f3, j2, f23 XX df2~MB, 212 XX db2~u (41%, one meter)
f3, walk forward f23 XX df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (35%, one meter)


AA d2 starter:
d2, j2, 212 XX db2~u (23%, meterless)
d2, j2, f23 XX df2~MB, 212 XX db2~u (32%, one meter)


dd3~MB starter (15f mid teleport thing, punishable on block):
dd3~MB, dash b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (28%, one meter)
dd3~MB, dash b3, j2, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (22%, one meter)


df2~MB starter (6f mid reversal wakeup move, punishable on block):
df2~MB, b2u3, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, f2 XX db2~U (34%, one meter, hard combo, almost impossible on smalls)
df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, dash b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (30%, one meter, universal)
df2~MB, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (21%, one meter)


bf3~MB starter (24f mid, +1 on block):
bf3~MB, b3, j3, 212 XX db2~u (32%, one meter)
bf3~MB, b3, j3, d2 XX bf1, j2, 111 (29%, one meter)


bf1 starter (35f mid, +3 on block but they'll just avoid and punish if they're in close): Pretty much anything you see above that follows bf1, or just dd3 from full screen I guess.

bf1~MB starter: THE INFINITE hahaha.
The infinite's already been described in the thread and it's gonna be gone fast, so I won't even go into it.
Anyway, bf1~MB, b3, f3 (23%, one meter, UNCLASHABLE)

Shadow Ninja 64 fucked around with this message at 07:17 on May 22, 2013

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*
Her teleport is pretty fair too since it leaves you full screen without meter burn imo. She's basically smoke with an actual 50/50 and options. I'm definitely going to keep working at her.

rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp

Dosvidanya posted:

Here's something you can do right now in Ranked:

Pick batgirl, stay max distance and get fireballed until you have 1 bar of meter (or you know, punch them at the beginning), let them get comfortable and then dd3 mb, j2 b12 d2 bf1, 1, mb, d2, bf1, 1, mb, until they die.

Huh? Did you mean to type bf1, 1, mb? I'm trying this in practice mode and if you hit them with 1 it just breaks the bat-snare so hitting mb does nothing.

sponsz
Aug 28, 2005

By the whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch!

Holy Calamity! posted:

Huh? Did you mean to type bf1, 1, mb? I'm trying this in practice mode and if you hit them with 1 it just breaks the bat-snare so hitting mb does nothing.

Need to whiff the one, or use 4. Any move before MB if it doesn't hit will reset the combo.

rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp

sponsz posted:

Need to whiff the one, or use 4. Any move before MB if it doesn't hit will reset the combo.

Hahaha holy poo poo ok now I got it, that's nuts.

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free ;-*

Holy Calamity! posted:

Hahaha holy poo poo ok now I got it, that's nuts.

:twisted:

It's a true infinite too, you just need to alter the timing of the d2 to punch them as soon as they reach you so the bola connects.

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rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp

Dosvidanya posted:

:twisted:

It's a true infinite too, you just need to alter the timing of the d2 to punch them as soon as they reach you so the bola connects.

It's just so easy! Even if you suck you can simply do the dd3mb->d2bf1, 1, mb, d2bf1, 1, mb [forever]. Or just try to get lucky and start it with d2bf1.

I hope it doesn't take forever for a patch to get out due to Microsoft's/Sony's approval process.

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