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PureRok posted:I just noticed that Metro 2033 (the book) is available for free under the DLC section on Steam on Metro: Last Light's page. This is after I bought the book a few days ago... Ah well, more money for Dmitry (maybe), I guess. I never did figure out why I don't have a copy of this. I got the game through a preorder directly through Steam. It's not listed under DLC and not in the game folder where people tell me to look.
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# ? May 23, 2013 10:39 |
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According to Steam achievement stats, 35% of people who own this game have the bad ending achievement, and only 5% the good one. Unsurprising, but looks like we're getting the bad end again for the next sequel
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# ? May 23, 2013 11:09 |
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KaneTW posted:According to Steam achievement stats, 35% of people who own this game have the bad ending achievement, and only 5% the good one. Unsurprising, but looks like we're getting the bad end again for the next sequel I'm not surprised, the good one seems ridiculously hard to get. I spared Levnitsky, Pavel, and the mother bear, killed no humans outside of the sections where you have to (train ride, D6, etc.) and a few in the concentration camp before I learned about knocking out, avoided fighting mutants when possible once the dark one was with me, explored as much as I could, gave to beggars, and still got the bad ending. I don't understand what the game expects you to do, unless it is straight up no kills no way no how. vvv starting to think it hosed up my progress somehow. I always just used continue, but I noticed on a later chapter when I read a diary that some of my old ones were gone. Maybe that explains it. Dog Fat Man Chaser fucked around with this message at 11:59 on May 23, 2013 |
# ? May 23, 2013 11:15 |
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There's a guide at http://metrovideogame.wikia.com/wiki/Moral_Points that I just followed loosely and it gave me the good ending. No idea how many points I ended up getting in the end.
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# ? May 23, 2013 11:33 |
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KaneTW posted:According to Steam achievement stats, 35% of people who own this game have the bad ending achievement, and only 5% the good one. Unsurprising, but looks like we're getting the bad end again for the next sequel I doubt that how players finished the game will have any effect on any series continuity. I'd guess that the next game (if there is one) will just follow with whatever Glukhovsky wants to do, regardless of player base.
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# ? May 23, 2013 15:57 |
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Yeah, I hope so. They just said that the canon ending of 2033 was determined by player metrics, but it might as well be completely up to Glukhovsky.
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:21 |
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KaneTW posted:Yeah, I hope so. They just said that the canon ending of 2033 was determined by player metrics, but it might as well be completely up to Glukhovsky. Source for this? I'm pretty sure the canon ending was the canon ending because that's the way the book ended and because the "good" ending was nothing more than a bonus for the intrepid.
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:27 |
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So did I get the good ending or what? Artyom suicides the D6 compound and the dark ones are reborn Edit: VVV thanks. I don't know if I will ever get to see the good ending because I cannot resist slitting rapist and Nazi throats Miltank fucked around with this message at 17:45 on May 23, 2013 |
# ? May 23, 2013 17:32 |
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Miltank posted:So did I get the good ending or what? Artyom suicides the D6 compound and the dark ones are reborn In mine he tried to blow up D6 and the dark ones burst in the save people before you do, pretty sure that's the good ending.
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:34 |
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Miltank posted:So did I get the good ending or what? Artyom suicides the D6 compound and the dark ones are reborn Nope. D6 blows no matter what, but the dark ones save him in the good ending.
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:35 |
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Miltank posted:So did I get the good ending or what? Artyom suicides the D6 compound and the dark ones are reborn Bad ending: Artyom dies by self-destructing D6 Good ending: Artyom is stopped from flipping the switch by the little Dark One, other Dark Ones incapacitate/kill the Red Army E: ^^ D6 does not blow up in the good ending
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:36 |
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Yeah, after seeing what some of the bandits/fascists/communists are up to, it takes an almost inhuman restraint to leave their throats unslit/heads unfilled with 15mm steel balls.
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# ? May 23, 2013 17:55 |
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Yeah, after that attempted rape I abandoned my no-kill run.
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# ? May 23, 2013 18:00 |
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Yeah, especially when you consider that if you knock them out, they'll just wake up a bit later and resume killing/raping the refugees after you've left.
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# ? May 23, 2013 18:21 |
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I like to think the refugees turned the tables on the unconscious aggressors that I leave behind. "For liability purposes, it is the
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# ? May 23, 2013 18:39 |
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Finally finished; I played constantly until the bear fight and failed every time due the wrong sort of guns and ammo. I went back one level tonight and found a 4 barrel shotgun of some sort and took me one try to pass that level. Overall I thought Last Light was a mixture of some of the most amazing graphics and effects ive ever encountered, like the whole train level, down to some horribly annoying and infuriatingly bad swamp monsters, catacomb monsters, and yes that darned bear The story was 'meh' for me, compared to 2033. Some amazing levels were underused and id love to have stuck around and had more time in places such as Venice I got the bad ending, I think it may have been when I walked over to the rape scene, went 'welp, ive no business here' and walked away
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# ? May 23, 2013 19:38 |
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Endings are based solely on a check "do you have enough moral points" where every white flash gives you 1 moral point plus and every dark flash 1 moral point minus. In 2033 the threshold was around 20-25 points, not sure how high it is in LL.
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# ? May 23, 2013 20:28 |
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Wow holy poo poo I was watching that GTX 780 video on the nvidia site and it shows physx in Metro LL. Normally not a fan of physx but it looks amazing there.
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# ? May 23, 2013 20:36 |
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Leb posted:Yeah, especially when you consider that if you knock them out, they'll just wake up a bit later and resume killing/raping the refugees after you've left.
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# ? May 23, 2013 20:55 |
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keyframe posted:Wow holy poo poo I was watching that GTX 780 video on the nvidia site and it shows physx in Metro LL. Normally not a fan of physx but it looks amazing there. It looks cool but I'm not sure it looks $650 worth of cool. I'm excited for when we get these physics on $300 cards. Hopefully, next generation? ethanol fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 23, 2013 |
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ethanol posted:It looks cool but I'm not sure it looks $650 worth of cool. I'm excited for when we get these physics on $300 cards. Hopefully, next generation? PhysX cards have been included in NVidia cards for a few years now, you can find a card for less then that easy.
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# ? May 23, 2013 21:08 |
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keyframe posted:Wow holy poo poo I was watching that GTX 780 video on the nvidia site and it shows physx in Metro LL. Normally not a fan of physx but it looks amazing there. It's okay, I wish there was more of it, it's not very explicit in this game, compared to something like Mafia II where it's used to insane effect. I have to say though, that once you start using PhysX, it's hard to play games without it, the added particle effects add so much to the experience. Just look at this (especially look at the cloth physics): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQfbGBtitY Alice: Madness Returns, had some fantastic effects as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0UBtzKRUKI ethanol posted:It looks cool but I'm not sure it looks $650 worth of cool. I'm excited for when we get these physics on $300 cards. Hopefully, next generation? You can get a cheap extra Nvidia card and pop it into an empty slot and have it be run as a dedicated PhysX card so it doesn't put extra load onto your current GPU or your CPU. That's what I'm doing with my current setup while I'm playing Metro. EDIT: Jesus, I forgot the best of them all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k1idbbr2pw Lil Swamp Booger Baby fucked around with this message at 21:23 on May 23, 2013 |
# ? May 23, 2013 21:14 |
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Dr.Oblivious posted:PhysX cards have been included in NVidia cards for a few years now, you can find a card for less then that easy. Oh well I feel stupid for buying a 7950 now.
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# ? May 23, 2013 21:15 |
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I seriously can't get over how loving amazing this game looks. I've never been so consistently speechless at scenery before. I struggle to think how the 'next generation' of consoles is going to match the sheer beauty of this game. And I'm only playing on a 560ti, jesus loving christ.
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# ? May 23, 2013 22:45 |
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I honestly loved this whole game, I even loved the boss fights. Granted, i was just doing a normal blitz through to prepare the way for my actual, ranger play through.
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# ? May 23, 2013 22:54 |
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NaDy posted:I seriously can't get over how loving amazing this game looks. I've never been so consistently speechless at scenery before. I struggle to think how the 'next generation' of consoles is going to match the sheer beauty of this game. I honestly think this and Crysis 3 look a little better than the bits of next gen gameplay that are out there.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:08 |
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I never did figure out why I don't have a copy of this. I got the game through a preorder directly through Steam. It's not listed under DLC and not in the game folder where people tell me to look. Go to the store page for Metro LL on Steam. It's not a pre-order bonus. Anyone who owns LL can download it. On the store page under the DLC stuff it will be listed there with "Free" next to it. "Buy" it and it will be in your Metro: LL folder under steamapps. It's listed here on the site: http://store.steampowered.com/app/43163/
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:10 |
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I still don't have that (apparently terrible) comic that came with the game. Is there a download for that anywhere on Steam?
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:16 |
It's not through steam. You were supposed to get a code that you use on.. Dark Horse's site, I think.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:24 |
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I played Metro 2033 in hard mode, before the Ranger DLC was released. I like having a hard, scary, immersive experience. I like being stealthy, but if I screw up I like then having a big fighfight (rather than reloading a checkpoint until I get through perfectly stealthy). I pre-ordered Metro Last Light, so I have Ranger mode. Would people recommend playing in Ranger mode, or would I be better off playing in the standard Hard mode? I know Ranger mode is described as "the way it is supposed to be played", but I'm concerned that having gunfights with human NPCs will be suicide and instead you are supposed to sneak around and avoid them or stealth kill them all.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:37 |
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I shanked dudes left and right at the start of the game but then for dudes who were just mechanics or repair men I knocked them out. They might not be nazis by choice but those concentration camp guards sure as hell were.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:42 |
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your evil twin posted:
I'm currently playing my second playthrough on Ranger Easy this way and its the same for me as 2033. Sneak through, go guns blazing if you get caught, fight your way out. Though, sometimes they mix it up a little too, like they'll try to smoke you out, forcing you to put on your gas mask or choke to death, or reinforcements will show up if a guy gets to an alarm.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:43 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I still don't have that (apparently terrible) comic that came with the game. Is there a download for that anywhere on Steam? Want my code? I have no interest in ever using it. PM me.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:46 |
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Charlie Brown posted:Want my code? I've got a code, I just see nowhere to use it at.
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# ? May 24, 2013 00:47 |
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Yeah, Ranger reduces your guns and ammo and reduces everyone's health so that everything takes less shots to kill. I'd say that Ranger Easy is the best balance between Immersion and not being pissed off by invisible QTE's and not knowing which secondary you have equipped.
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# ? May 24, 2013 01:00 |
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your evil twin posted:I know Ranger mode is described as "the way it is supposed to be played", but I'm concerned that having gunfights with human NPCs will be suicide and instead you are supposed to sneak around and avoid them or stealth kill them all. You can have gunfights, and they're fun, but I wouldn't play Ranger Mode your first time through simply because it isn't nearly as well-implemented as it was in 2033. I get the impression that they playtested it themselves, because it equates "having no information" with being immersive. I.E., you can't check how much regular ammo you have outside of friendly stations (even if you're under no pressure), and on Hardcore you can't see which secondary (throwable) weapon you're equipping. They also limit you to two weapons (even if one is a sidearm), which feels arbitrary after 2033. **I agree with Ranger Easy being a good compromise. Pretty sure it's the same as Hardcore but with the ability to actually see weapon selections and cutscene QTEs, and it worked for me my first time through. The lower ammo capacity and higher lethality are still worth it. Cheston fucked around with this message at 01:18 on May 24, 2013 |
# ? May 24, 2013 01:09 |
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PureRok posted:Go to the store page for Metro LL on Steam. It's not a pre-order bonus. Anyone who owns LL can download it. On the store page under the DLC stuff it will be listed there with "Free" next to it. "Buy" it and it will be in your Metro: LL folder under steamapps. An error was encountered while processing your request: This item is currently unavailable in your region. Ughhh europe.
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RBA Starblade posted:I've got a code, I just see nowhere to use it at. https://digital.darkhorse.com/metro/
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# ? May 24, 2013 01:28 |
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So I'm only available to play this game a hour or so every night thanks to work, but I've just gotten to the Moscow city surface after you hook up with the Dark One on the train. The surface is absolutely mind blowingly stunning. I thought it was great in the first hour of the game, but this is unreal. The train part was incredible too.
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# ? May 24, 2013 01:36 |
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Thanks for all the info on the difficulty modes everyone. RBA Starblade posted:I'm currently playing my second playthrough on Ranger Easy this way and its the same for me as 2033. Sneak through, go guns blazing if you get caught, fight your way out. Though, sometimes they mix it up a little too, like they'll try to smoke you out, forcing you to put on your gas mask or choke to death, or reinforcements will show up if a guy gets to an alarm. Stuff like enemies smoking you out or reinforcements turning up, do they happen in the other difficulty modes too, or just in the Ranger modes? If it is just in the Ranger modes then I will definitely be playing in Ranger Easy, that sounds awesome. (The two weapon limit is a bit disappointing, though.) Am I right in thinking that the way both Metro games handle difficulty settings is that the harder the difficulty, the rarer the bullets, but the bullets do more damage... to both enemies and to the player. Is that right? I thought I read a few posts back in this thread something about how "amoebas" take like 10 bullets to be killed in Ranger mode, rather than just a few bullets, suggesting that there are certain enemies that are exceptions to the rule and are made tougher depending on the difficulty setting. I also read in PC Gamer that playing in Hard mode made the combat more lethal and resource management more important, but that it also made the "bullet-sponge boss battles more of a slog". Does playing in Ranger Easy make that even more so, super-tough bosses?
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# ? May 24, 2013 01:36 |