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Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Speedball posted:

I hope the writer for Borderlands 2 gets more work after this. I want to see a lot more from this guy.

Have you seen the Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin'? series?

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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

A few questions about Mania tree Psycho; is there a way to turn off auto-reloading? It's annoying having to switch between weapons to keep the empty weapon bonus damage.

And do the Empty the Rage bonuses from empty weapon and no shields stack?

Why do you need to switch weapons? Doesn't melee attacking also interrupt weapon reloads?

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!
Until you stop chopping yeah.

I agree, I'd like to be able to turn off auto reload.

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
Hooray I beat my first normal playthough. The last boss was really easy and stupid and literally everything before it was harder which is a pretty hosed up difficulty curve.

So what do I need to know for tvhm? I'm level 35 right now so where should I start grinding for stuff? Should I avoid any non-story quests?

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!

Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

Hooray I beat my first normal playthough. The last boss was really easy and stupid and literally everything before it was harder which is a pretty hosed up difficulty curve.

So what do I need to know for tvhm? I'm level 35 right now so where should I start grinding for stuff? Should I avoid any non-story quests?

Just start it up, do whatever quests you want. Playthrough 3 is where you want to keep the side quests free, if that's your thing. I went through PT2 and only did side quests if the story missions were getting too far above my level.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

delpheye posted:

Just start it up, do whatever quests you want. Playthrough 3 is where you want to keep the side quests free, if that's your thing. I went through PT2 and only did side quests if the story missions were getting too far above my level.

By playthrough 3 you mean Ultimate Vault Hunter right? I'm not I agree, since you can re-run UVH if you want so you'll get multiple chances at quest rewards, right?

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!
Yes, UVHM is playthrough 3. Yes, you can reset it whenever you want. I guess if you're trying to be the most efficient, get to 61 ASAP, do no side quests until then, and then once you get a little past sanctuary you can get pretty much any quest you want.

Though I fail to see how it matters since if you ever play with friends who are around the same level, you can almost always get any quest you want at will. I'm amused by the idea that there's a right or wrong way to play this game. I've been through all 3 playthroughs at least 15 times with different characters or with other people so at this point I might just be an edge case who thinks none of it matters.

Also, there are way easier ways to get multiple chances at the same quest reward than slogging through a reset UVHM over and over.

At the end of the day, just play the game.

kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011
Given level 50 guns are still strong until the mid 50s I'd suggest doing TVHM without side quests, then doing the side quests at level 50 to scoop some good guns to start off UVHM with. The jumps in difficulty from level to level in TVHM make guns obsolete rapidly, spoiling unique quest rewards guns, but UVHM is more forgiving.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Having gone through a major portion of the opening story and DLC areas multiple times now, I find my biggest complaint with this game is that they made very large areas to traverse while walking. If there was anything that flat out said "gently caress you" to stack decay rates or lack of enemies, its these lulls of transit where I'd rather just have a fast-travel spawn out of the ground when I defeat Motor Mama, because walking all the way around a circle three times is a humongous waste of fun.

Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!
They should have introduced motorcycles for navigating the tighter areas where larger vehicles aren't accessible. I'd love to take a tiny, unprotected bike through all the Varkid nests in Tiny Tina's area.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Jake Blues posted:

Having gone through a major portion of the opening story and DLC areas multiple times now, I find my biggest complaint with this game is that they made very large areas to traverse while walking. If there was anything that flat out said "gently caress you" to stack decay rates or lack of enemies, its these lulls of transit where I'd rather just have a fast-travel spawn out of the ground when I defeat Motor Mama, because walking all the way around a circle three times is a humongous waste of fun.

Borderlands 1 had this issue with all its DLC's, General Knoxx's DLC was the worst about it, yeah you got a fancy Lancer tank, but it was slow as hell and you had to drive for miles to get anywhere.

You'd also better hope the Crimson Lance didn't blow your car up though (and they would) as you'd be running for ages to reach the next Catch a Ride.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Yeah there are definitely a few problems like that in this game. In the next one I'd like to be able to just summon a car wherever (bigger areas and flying vehicles would be cool too) and sell items from the backpack menu. So many times I'd have to run way back to the start of a dungeon type area to sell some poo poo and free up backpack space, I know money is relatively pointless so I was just wasting my own time by choice by doing that but they could have just put more vending machines halfway through the dam and Firehawks lair, places like that.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

KidKrampus posted:

They should have introduced motorcycles for navigating the tighter areas where larger vehicles aren't accessible. I'd love to take a tiny, unprotected bike through all the Varkid nests in Tiny Tina's area.

I'm still pissed that the Torgue DLC had madmen on motorcycles with buzzsaw fenders and machine gun sidecars and we didn't get to ride those motorcycles.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008

Hey good news you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRAdZO6rFJ4

Technically it's kind of useless since you can only do it in areas with cars, but still.

Kifisonfire fucked around with this message at 10:49 on May 23, 2013

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Made it to 37 in TVHM last night and while my guns couldn't hurt poo poo, I was slicing through fools relentlessly! Chain a buzzaxe toss into a melee swing, hit myself once and throw another axe. Re-mutate when the killskill ends, since everyone I'm facing is 41 and knocks my healthbar's dick into the floor instantly. Middle tree all the way.
Jumped to the Torgue DLC. Haven't had to respawn until getting to Flyboy, whereupon every buzzard fucks me because they can dodge all my buzzaxe tosses, and don't provide enough platforming for me to reach them with melee. Spent five deaths and just gave up back to the main story.
Anyone with a Mechro [or something to deal with those buzzards] mind running through the rest of Torgue with me?

Video Nasty fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 23, 2013

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Jun 17, 2003

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smashpro1
Mar 1, 2009

Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.
Thanks to tagging along with higher-level goons, I was able to skip most of TVHM with Krieg. Now, I've beaten it, and every enemy is 10 levels higher than me. :suicide:

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Oh, yeah. That's mostly why I have "lovely" weapons. I can't get Salt the Wound stacks if I have a decent shield recharge rate, and I can't go into Release the Beast until my health is at 33% [which usually requires an emptied shield]. It's awesome fun to chain together strings of rampages, but more often I'm hitting myself two times in the face instead of killing anyone. I've since switched to throwing the buzzaxe more, as I believe without the dynamite skill modifier it's considered melee damage.
It's frustrating against shifty assholes like Buzzards or some of the smaller psychos, but ultimately more rewarding when you sink that Last-of-the-Mohicans throw.

e: I should also mention it's somewhat difficult at times to balance 'when' to pull the trigger on Release the Beast in TVHM. I'm against level 45 characters now, at lvl38 myself. They can take out my shield in one hit, and usually get my health to 33% in two more. If I have three or more enemies firing at me simultaneously, I'm dead meat.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging
The thrown buzz axe is definitely considered a melee attack, at least for some purposes. Throwing that thing around with the bonus from Love Thumper seems to make its damage skyrocket, and it causes the melee explosion whenever you nail someone with it.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

How long does it take until the buzzaxe isn't terrible? I'm 13 and it takes like 10 swipes to kill anyone. I rarely ever use it unless I need health and have an enemy that's almost dead.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Something seems wrong with that, for me it was one shotting nearly every basic enemy until I got to the robots in the dam. They took a few swipes.

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

How long does it take until the buzzaxe isn't terrible? I'm 13 and it takes like 10 swipes to kill anyone. I rarely ever use it unless I need health and have an enemy that's almost dead.

What did you put your points in?

Bumper Stickup
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Grimey Drawer

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

How long does it take until the buzzaxe isn't terrible? I'm 13 and it takes like 10 swipes to kill anyone. I rarely ever use it unless I need health and have an enemy that's almost dead.

Are you using a bladed weapon? Cause the blade accessory overrides the +500% melee bonus from buzz axe rampage.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Fibby Boy posted:

Are you using a bladed weapon? Cause the blade accessory overrides the +500% melee bonus from buzz axe rampage.

Wow I didn't know that. That's some bullshit.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011

Elephant Ambush posted:

Wow I didn't know that. That's some bullshit.

Yeah the Psycho has a lot of weird melee interactions. He gets some sort of kind of noticeable melee damage bump per lvl up regardless of skill point allocation, and using a weapon with a melee attachment overrides it. At a high enough level you do less damage using a bladed weapon as you would without it.

smashpro1
Mar 1, 2009

Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.

SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

Yeah the Psycho has a lot of weird melee interactions. He gets some sort of kind of noticeable melee damage bump per lvl up regardless of skill point allocation, and using a weapon with a melee attachment overrides it. At a high enough level you do less damage using a bladed weapon as you would without it.

Only if the melee bonus is 50%, guns like Law and Captain Blade's Rapier still do more damage.

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!
Just don't use bladed weapons to keep your inherent melee bonus.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008

Angry Diplomat posted:

The thrown buzz axe is definitely considered a melee attack, at least for some purposes. Throwing that thing around with the bonus from Love Thumper seems to make its damage skyrocket, and it causes the melee explosion whenever you nail someone with it.
If you put dynamite on the buzz axe, the game considers it a grenade. I've got pull the pin challenges popping up by throwing it at least.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
I haven't tested it yet but supposedly the game thinks the thrown axe is a pistol and combined with the sheriff's badge you'll be able to spam the hell out of it

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Marogareh posted:

I haven't tested it yet but supposedly the game thinks the thrown axe is a pistol and combined with the sheriff's badge you'll be able to spam the hell out of it

Holy poo poo. I hope this is true because seriously, holy poo poo.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008

Marogareh posted:

I haven't tested it yet but supposedly the game thinks the thrown axe is a pistol and combined with the sheriff's badge you'll be able to spam the hell out of it
Welp once I'm finished spamming Bloodwing for headshots I'm going to Lynchwood then I guess.

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!

Marogareh posted:

I haven't tested it yet but supposedly the game thinks the thrown axe is a pistol and combined with the sheriff's badge you'll be able to spam the hell out of it

What's your source?

HAmbONE
May 11, 2004

I know where the XBox is!!
Smellrose
It's an ugly, rainy day off and I'm just cleaning up my house. I'm leaving my xbox on and periodically checking it. If you want to be power leveled in badass bar or have a high level escort to speed through story just send me a message

Hambonius 0mega (the "0" is a zero)

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

delpheye posted:

What did you put your points in?

Bloodlust, or whatever. The magazine increasing skill, and then the damage reduction one while in rampage. I'm only 13 so I don't have many points to dick with yet.

Fibby Boy posted:

Are you using a bladed weapon? Cause the blade accessory overrides the +500% melee bonus from buzz axe rampage.

Nope.

delpheye
Jun 18, 2004

I'm gonna fuck me a moon man!

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Bloodlust, or whatever. The magazine increasing skill, and then the damage reduction one while in rampage. I'm only 13 so I don't have many points to dick with yet.

I'd try Mania or Hellborn at that low level. Bloodlust is kind of like Gaige's Anarchy tree in that its advantages aren't apparent until you can get further down the tree. The Mania tree can increase your melee damage permanently from tier 1.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

HAmbONE posted:

It's an ugly, rainy day off and I'm just cleaning up my house. I'm leaving my xbox on and periodically checking it. If you want to be power leveled in badass bar or have a high level escort to speed through story just send me a message

Hambonius 0mega (the "0" is a zero)

Sorry about bailing out yesterday - I was getting a call in from work at didn't want to have a customer hear Kreig shouting about the voices in the background. I'm totally down for joining up again if you're bored.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011

delpheye posted:

What's your source?


I was looking for info on him and a thread in the Gearbox forums caught my eye.

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=284178

I tested it and it does indeed work. I was wondering why he was throwing it so fast when I was in the hellborn tree and it was because elemental elation was in effect.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008

delpheye posted:

What's your source?
Just tried it out, see for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-zQq0OWDss

It makes a pretty big difference if you're like me and prefer throwing axes as opposed to melee. I hate hitting myself.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

delpheye posted:

I'd try Mania or Hellborn at that low level. Bloodlust is kind of like Gaige's Anarchy tree in that its advantages aren't apparent until you can get further down the tree. The Mania tree can increase your melee damage permanently from tier 1.

Yeah I was just dicking around with the talent trees and it looks like Mania may have what I need for now. Thanks!

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Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008

Krieg's getting taken over on Twitter, guessing some new Tiny Tina info is on the way?

https://twitter.com/ECHOcasts

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