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SebastianK
Dec 4, 2011

Congratulations
Got this a week or so ago and yeah this game's pretty loving rad. Looks incredibly wonky and loose in so many ways and yet after 100 levels I still want to keep playing.

I'm wondering though how the christ do people get these huge amount of rift crystals? In all the hours I've played I've only amassed somewhere around 12k, is it just a lot of lending your pawn out to people and having them rate it and poo poo like that?

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mirarant
Dec 18, 2012

Post or die

SebastianK posted:

Got this a week or so ago and yeah this game's pretty loving rad. Looks incredibly wonky and loose in so many ways and yet after 100 levels I still want to keep playing.

I'm wondering though how the christ do people get these huge amount of rift crystals? In all the hours I've played I've only amassed somewhere around 12k, is it just a lot of lending your pawn out to people and having them rate it and poo poo like that?

That's pretty much it, if you have a DD save imported into DA you start with a 100k bonus. You can find RC crystals of up to 10k value (very rare) in BBI as loot from chests and enemies. The pawn guild badge quests also award you RC and since you don't lose them you can just pop them into your inventory in NG+ and get the rewards again.

Mostly RC comes from rentals though, the first time you get 1m+ RC from rentals is a sweet, sweet thing.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


SebastianK posted:

Got this a week or so ago and yeah this game's pretty loving rad. Looks incredibly wonky and loose in so many ways and yet after 100 levels I still want to keep playing.

How the gently caress did you amass 100 levels in a week? :stare:

SebastianK
Dec 4, 2011

Congratulations

Hakkesshu posted:

How the gently caress did you amass 100 levels in a week? :stare:

Just did a bunch of offline Ur-dragon farming, haven't even touched BBI yet.

TehGherkin
May 24, 2008
What do I need to do to make sure I don't get locked out of the Selene quests again? It's been such a long time, I can't remember. If it's just do her escort quest then I'm sorted.

I've been trying to drag the main quest out a bit, I'm only on the first stage of the wyrm hunt quests and I'm nearly level 40 (I've been neglecting the game lately, curse you 90s RPGs stealing all my time.)

Ohhh you mean where she gets lost in the woods and you meet Selene? Yeah I did that aaages ago.

TehGherkin fucked around with this message at 02:28 on May 25, 2013

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

TehGherkin posted:

What do I need to do to make sure I don't get locked out of the Selene quests again? It's been such a long time, I can't remember. If it's just do her escort quest then I'm sorted.

I've been trying to drag the main quest out a bit, I'm only on the first stage of the wyrm hunt quests and I'm nearly level 40 (I've been neglecting the game lately, curse you 90s RPGs stealing all my time.)

Do the quest with Quina before leaving for Gran Soren (the cutoff point might actually be later but I don't remember) and do Witch Hunt when you first hear about it.

That's it. Escort quests don't interact with non-noticeboard quests at all.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

jonjonaug posted:

Do the quest with Quina before leaving for Gran Soren (the cutoff point might actually be later but I don't remember) and do Witch Hunt when you first hear about it.

That's it. Escort quests don't interact with non-noticeboard quests at all.

Yep, I missed out on Selene's later questline because I ignored Quina right at the start. A shame, since the second part of the Witchwood seems to have a lot of useful ingredients etc.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Any advice for killing the dragons in BBI? Particularly when there's two of them at once. The only thing that I've found works at all is being a dagger class with adhesion, jumping on their torso, and trying to maneuver to their heart for hundred kisses spam in a really awkward and frustrating way, hoping I don't get hosed before I can kill them. This works really well when the controls and camera don't spaz out too much, and I don't get hit by a meteor or something. They die quite quickly and the one I'm attacking gets stunlocked the whole time, even if it's one of the durable fire ones.

Anything else, though? Ugh. Pawns are 100% useless and do literally nothing. Doesn't feel like I can do much on my sorc, since the charge shot doesn't go for their heart and against a lot of them there's no time to stand still and cast spells (which aren't effective anyways, unless I get an incredibly well placed maelstrom). My magick archer has similar issues, where my shots won't go for their heart and unlike my assassin I'm not completely specced out for dagger stab climbing with gloves of might, adhesion, opportunism, arm strength, very high stamina, and fully upgraded versions of the best daggers in the game.

Vargs fucked around with this message at 02:39 on May 25, 2013

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Vargs posted:

Any advice for killing the dragons in BBI? Particularly when there's two of them at once. The only thing that I've found works at all is being a dagger class with adhesion, jumping on their torso, and trying to maneuver to their heart for hundred kisses spam in a really awkward and frustrating way, hoping I don't get hosed before I can kill them. This works really well when the controls and camera don't spaz out too much, and I don't get hit by a meteor or something. They die quite quickly and the one I'm attacking gets stunlocked the whole time, even if it's one of the durable fire ones.

Anything else, though? Ugh. Pawns are 100% useless and do literally nothing. Doesn't feel like I can do much on my sorc, since the charge shot doesn't go for their heart and against a lot of them there's no time to stand still and cast spells (which aren't effective anyways, unless I get an incredibly well placed maelstrom). My magick archer has similar issues, where my shots won't go for their heart and unlike my assassin I'm not completely specced out for dagger stab climbing with gloves of might, adhesion, opportunism, arm strength, very high stamina, and fully upgraded versions of the best daggers in the game.

Have you been using Periapts at all? Stacking four Conqueror's Periapts multiplies your attack power by over five times. Fournival sells an unlimited amount of them.

The couple of encounters where you can get two at a time though are really dicey. I just run away if I get two Firedrakes.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

jonjonaug posted:

Have you been using Periapts at all? Stacking four Conqueror's Periapts multiplies your attack power by over five times. Fournival sells an unlimited amount of them.

The couple of encounters where you can get two at a time though are really dicey. I just run away if I get two Firedrakes.

I have trained my pawn well in dealing with dragons. I gave him the two secret augs to deal more damage while climbing on a monster and makes it harder to shake him off. He grabs on and butchers the poo poo out of their hearts and they can't do a drat thing about it. Even gets cyclops helmets off himself and then shoots the eye. Dudes a beast. Always Rent Tarrant.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Before I ultimately write this game off completely I do have one important question, it relates to BBI.

Is BBI standard? Like in the sense that it doesn't get harder when you go the new game+ route?

And what exactly does class have to do with stats, I keep hearing people saying warrior or fighter get more HP or something along those lines. I'm not interested in min-maxing but I'd like to know how to not gimp myself somehow.

The affinity stuff, is there a way to see it? Can I control it somehow? I recall a goon saying not to talk to anyone till you got the Arisen's something, bond or whatever, that seems a bit extreme, on that note, what is the arisens bond?

And finally, is there some sort of source related to the billboard sidequests? I had like 30 by the end of the game but I just couldn't figure out how to complete them, they wanted a specific item but well, I don't know what the hell drops it.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Hakkesshu posted:

How the gently caress did you amass 100 levels in a week? :stare:

SebastianK posted:

Just did a bunch of offline Ur-dragon farming, haven't even touched BBI yet.

During the squishy online Ur-dragon hunt I killed him 3 times in one day and went from 119 - 121. If I remember right he was giving a quarter-million exp per kill, enough to give me a level each time for the first 2 kills.

If the offline one gives the same exp, and you managed to kill him a bunch of times starting at level 50 or so, I could see getting several levels per kill.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011

Vargs posted:

Any advice for killing the dragons in BBI? Particularly when there's two of them at once. The only thing that I've found works at all is being a dagger class with adhesion, jumping on their torso, and trying to maneuver to their heart for hundred kisses spam in a really awkward and frustrating way, hoping I don't get hosed before I can kill them. This works really well when the controls and camera don't spaz out too much, and I don't get hit by a meteor or something. They die quite quickly and the one I'm attacking gets stunlocked the whole time, even if it's one of the durable fire ones.

Anything else, though? Ugh. Pawns are 100% useless and do literally nothing. Doesn't feel like I can do much on my sorc, since the charge shot doesn't go for their heart and against a lot of them there's no time to stand still and cast spells (which aren't effective anyways, unless I get an incredibly well placed maelstrom). My magick archer has similar issues, where my shots won't go for their heart and unlike my assassin I'm not completely specced out for dagger stab climbing with gloves of might, adhesion, opportunism, arm strength, very high stamina, and fully upgraded versions of the best daggers in the game.

Get a rusted bow and dragonforge it so you can torpor the poo poo out of everything. Torpor is incredibly good and it almost feels like cheating.

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything :(

Just hit level 61, mainly been Red and Yellow classes. Just got done with the Chimera/Gorechimera/wight fight in Everfall. That was fun as hell! Kept getting blinded, kept getting meteors falling from the sky, every time I managed to cling to a chimera the other would knock me off, fireballs all over the place. Didn't die, though the pawns all did.

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

Marogareh posted:

Get a rusted bow and dragonforge it so you can torpor the poo poo out of everything. Torpor is incredibly good and it almost feels like cheating.

Rusted weapons get torpor/poison?

:aaa:

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

BlueDestiny posted:

Rusted weapons get torpor/poison?

:aaa:
Yeah but they still only have an attack power of like 50.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
I only use it for the torpor and utility since it makes going for weakpoints as a strider/assassin that much easier. It's also really funny seeing an enemy fly into the air and fall down in slow motion while you're climbing on it.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

I created the Headless Icon (for the Burning Curses sidequest) using a Cursed Carving and Catacomb Gold in the inventory vault's Combine menu. It said it was created, but I can't find it anywhere, it just disappeared. It's not in the vault, not in any menu of me or any of my pawns. So it didn't disappear, the guy Arnsmith won't accept it for quest completion. :shrug:

Also, if anyone needs a Lvl 44 Sorcerer pawn, my PSN ID is red19fire.

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Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
Are the three DLC rings worth it?

I just finished my audience with the Duke. Where can I go for a challenging fight?

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
I just wrecked 2 Prisoner Gorecyclops at the same time.

Unfortunately a few rooms later Death showed up and killed my entire party.

bonzaisushi
Nov 15, 2003

doo dee doo dmt, lsd doo dmt, lsd doo dmt...

Count Chocula posted:

Are the three DLC rings worth it?

I just finished my audience with the Duke. Where can I go for a challenging fight?

man i bought the DLC that came with new bbi gear (i think it was 7 new pieces of armor) and they are all poo poo imo. The only thing worth a drat is the monocle, but that's only for looks.


edit: i stand corrected i apparently bought a different dlc pack. All i did was click that new dlc notification link and bought the dlc within the game. I guess i didn't get the rings :( oh well.

bonzaisushi fucked around with this message at 07:35 on May 25, 2013

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

I still don't have the rings in the online store. :shrug:

ChaoticGood
May 7, 2010

Count Chocula posted:

Are the three DLC rings worth it?

I just finished my audience with the Duke. Where can I go for a challenging fight?

Absolutely DO NOT buy the rings. They are the biggest ripoff since Horse Armor. They are normal level 1 skill rings with one skill in them, which you can easily find in BBI, and the extra item is a normal one-use Liftstone (although for some reason it apparently has a different name "Liftstone (DLC)".

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

ChaoticGood posted:

Absolutely DO NOT buy the rings. They are the biggest ripoff since Horse Armor. They are normal level 1 skill rings with one skill in them, which you can easily find in BBI, and the extra item is a normal one-use Liftstone (although for some reason it apparently has a different name "Liftstone (DLC)".
Actually I have found surprisingly few of the skill rings, I'm still missing a lot of them despite having beaten bbi already. Are they also affected by what class you're in? If they were I should have gotten at least one ring for magic archer since that's what I was using most of the time, but I didn't.

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
DD has a bunch of features that feel like a mobile game - the asynchronous multiplayer that ncorages sharing your name and the currency you can buy with real money. I hope they don't go further in that direction.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

I've been having a lot of problems scrounging up enough RC on my sorcerer. How fortunate that I just got my fighter pawn back with around 500,000, as well as a bunch of knowledge of early/mid game areas, 5 stars across the board, and a "Saved us countless times" note. I wonder if someone picked her up a couple weeks ago when she was low level and took her through most of the game. :3:

ChaoticGood
May 7, 2010

Vargs posted:

I've been having a lot of problems scrounging up enough RC on my sorcerer. How fortunate that I just got my fighter pawn back with around 500,000, as well as a bunch of knowledge of early/mid game areas, 5 stars across the board, and a "Saved us countless times" note. I wonder if someone picked her up a couple weeks ago when she was low level and took her through most of the game. :3:

I got 2,5 MILLION RC from someone once... I have to wonder how long they had to use the pawn... Rentals are level-dependant too, it's much easier to get hired in levels 1-60 and then at 200, than anywhere in between. At least on the XBOX, I don't know if PS3 players are different.

Plague Dynasty
Aug 20, 2006

find revelations in life
find satisfaction in death
So I have a quick question, I never got around to beating the original DD, but I got DA. I have DD installed, DA Disc 1 and Disc 2 installed, and it seemed to give me the bonuses from having a DD save (such as the eternal ferrystone) and starting a new character but some of my old outfits seem to be missing like the lady general uses in Pawn town (the one that makes you escort the hydra head) and the game keeps popping up that I should install the game to get HD textures and JP voices. I cannot choose JP voices in the main menu. As far as I know I've done everything correctly but obviously I am missing something. I have some new outfits it seems like with DA like the Queen's Regalia but again it seems like some of it just isn't there.

teknetik
Jan 13, 2010

SO
JEWISH
So changing the difficulty resets the game, but how exactly does it work? I assume I get to keep everything (items/gold/pawns/port crystal placements), but do I lose side quest progress and stuff like that? Kinda wanted to redo a few of them.

teknetik fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 25, 2013

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

teknetik posted:

So changing the difficulty resets the game, but how exactly does it work? I assume I get to keep everything (items/gold/pawns/port crystal placements), but do I lose side quest progress and stuff like that? Kinda wanted to redo a few of them.

Yes. It's like starting a new game+, though if you haven't actually completed the game before it won't offer the additional notice board quests and easy access to the Ur-Dragon that are typically given in ng+.

Warm Inca Lips
Feb 17, 2012

Vargs posted:

I've been having a lot of problems scrounging up enough RC on my sorcerer. How fortunate that I just got my fighter pawn back with around 500,000, as well as a bunch of knowledge of early/mid game areas, 5 stars across the board, and a "Saved us countless times" note. I wonder if someone picked her up a couple weeks ago when she was low level and took her through most of the game. :3:

That might have been me! Whenever I find myself getting frustrated with BBI I go mess around in the main game with lower-level goon pawns along. Gnomette's cool, she's like this plucky little hobbit completely wrecking monsters three times her size :3:

Last time I played I brought Bossy Bear and EGSunbro's pawns along for a trip down to the Catacombs, forgetting about the two Living Armors who hang out down there. They handled themselves really well! Didn't get knocked out once, used items intelligently, and Lyn cast that big meteor spell at just the right moment. They did tons better than a lot of higher-level non-goon pawns have.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
Anyone have tips on playing a Warrior? Arc of Deliverance is awesome as gently caress, but everything else seems to suck complete dick. The only thing I can use to damage bosses is Arc but a lot of the bosses are almost impossible to land that poo poo on without them loving you up or hitting the poo poo out of you and breaking the charge.

I'm trolling around in BBI right now and I can't kill the Condemned Goreclops OR the Evil Eye :[ I'm level 32 atm

Is there a way to increase my strength or something I don't know about? I'm at like 400 ish with a 3 star Steel Greatsword

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Razzled posted:

Anyone have tips on playing a Warrior? Arc of Deliverance is awesome as gently caress, but everything else seems to suck complete dick. The only thing I can use to damage bosses is Arc but a lot of the bosses are almost impossible to land that poo poo on without them loving you up or hitting the poo poo out of you and breaking the charge.

I'm trolling around in BBI right now and I can't kill the Condemned Goreclops OR the Evil Eye :[ I'm level 32 atm

Is there a way to increase my strength or something I don't know about? I'm at like 400 ish with a 3 star Steel Greatsword

BBI is meant for 50+ characters who have gone through the main game already and Warrior is basically the weakest class in the game so there's your problem.

edit: This isn't to say that Warriors can't do BBI, but its definitely hard mode, your level and gear are more the problem here.

Bakalakadaka fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 25, 2013

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Bakalakadaka posted:

BBI is meant for 50+ characters who have gone through the main game already and Warrior is basically the weakest class in the game so there's your problem.

Oh. Lol. Well atleast I found Almace! Time to switch to Mystic Knight!

e: I almost killed the gore clops by baiting an undead dragon into the room and watching them fight :D It killed the dragon first though and I got a lot of dragon forged stuff. But then I died trying to save my pawns like an idiot and the bait didn't drop from the chest on the save reload :[

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Razzled posted:

Oh. Lol. Well atleast I found Almace! Time to switch to Mystic Knight!

e: I almost killed the gore clops by baiting an undead dragon into the room and watching them fight :D It killed the dragon first though and I got a lot of dragon forged stuff. But then I died trying to save my pawns like an idiot and the bait didn't drop from the chest on the save reload :[

Wait, you can get enemies to fight each other? Last night it was Me vs. cyclops & undead & bandits, it was pandemonium until I got one-shotted by a Dark Lord.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

red19fire posted:

Wait, you can get enemies to fight each other? Last night it was Me vs. cyclops & undead & bandits, it was pandemonium until I got one-shotted by a Dark Lord.

Yeah I was surprised too. The first time it happened, the dragon spawned randomly from something I killed and about mid way through me dying the cyclops got pissed and started stomping on the dragon. Then I died. The second time I found a bait so I went behind the cyclops and dropped it under him and basically used him as a shield from the dragon. Eventually the dragon did enough damage to make the cyclops break its chains and they started going at it.

screech on the beach
Mar 9, 2004
Do augments from different classes stack? Like will the magic damage from Sorcerer stack with the one from the Mage?

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

LoG posted:

Do augments from different classes stack? Like will the magic damage from Sorcerer stack with the one from the Mage?

Yes, and its additive so the two augments together are 30% (10% from mage, 20% from sorc).

screech on the beach
Mar 9, 2004
Awesome, thanks.

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RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Samurai Sanders posted:

Actually I have found surprisingly few of the skill rings, I'm still missing a lot of them despite having beaten bbi already. Are they also affected by what class you're in? If they were I should have gotten at least one ring for magic archer since that's what I was using most of the time, but I didn't.

No, it's one for each of the base classes, Burst strike for Fighter, Cutting wind for Strider, Ingle for Mage. They're pretty bad, don't get them.

By the way, they're the same as what you got if you pre-ordered the game.

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