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What enemy? That is a legitimate question. What enemy requires a cold calculating psychopath?
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RADIOHEADISGOD posted:A conservative friend (pretty much the only one I have left on facebook) posted this. I'm really starting to question her grip on reality. Start posting about how awesome Vlad Tepes was and see if she agrees.
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May 27, 2013 06:14
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What enemy? That is a legitimate question. What enemy requires a cold calculating psychopath? This is how you spot a crypto-fascist. Pope Guilty posted:Start posting about how awesome Vlad Tepes was and see if she agrees. Don't the Romanians worship him?
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May 27, 2013 06:43
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Got this one on Facebook: What is Obama doing wrong exactly? I seriously have no idea what this is trying to say, aside from the fact that's obviously set up as "Haw haw Obama isn't a REAL MAN who chops up trees" so that's how it should be taken?
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May 27, 2013 07:25
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Leospeare posted:Got this one on Facebook: He's bending over to dig a hole to plant a tree instead of standing upright while hauling brush and chopping down trees. Never mind that planting trees is an important part of forestry and maintaining what's left of our lumber industry. If you're a Real Man (tm) you want to gently caress the environment as much as possible.
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May 27, 2013 07:31
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Also he isn't wearing a proper working man costume.
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May 27, 2013 08:36
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Job Truniht posted:Don't the Romanians worship him? Yea I'm not sure why invoking Vlad is a 'heh now what' move, he's beloved.
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May 27, 2013 08:46
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I'm not sure why invoking Vlad is a 'heh now what' move, he's beloved. I think it involves mentioning how he stuck the heads/bodies of his enemies on pikes around the borders and roads leading in, Sort like a macabre picket fence. It's how he got his epithet.
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May 27, 2013 09:20
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I'm not sure why invoking Vlad is a 'heh now what' move, he's beloved. In Romania, sure. Everywhere else he's a shorthand for gruesome, violent tyranny. Even the stories that paint him in a good light make him out to be somebody who tortured and murdered people because it sounded fun at the time.
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May 27, 2013 10:53
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RADIOHEADISGOD posted:A conservative friend (pretty much the only one I have left on facebook) posted this. I'm really starting to question her grip on reality. It takes a special kind of person to watch a movie with a bad guy whose goal is to take over the planet and exterminate everyone he deems inferior (which is like 99% of humanity) and think "Yeah, you know what? That's the kind of leader we need in real life."
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May 27, 2013 11:18
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vyelkin posted:It takes a special kind of person to watch a movie with a bad guy whose goal is to take over the planet and exterminate everyone he deems inferior (which is like 99% of humanity) and think "Yeah, you know what? That's the kind of leader we need in real life." I wonder if she felt the same way about that character when he was played by a Mexican guy instead of an English guy.
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May 27, 2013 11:24
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Man, she is gonna love Ender's Game then.
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May 27, 2013 12:42
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Ah, Ender's Game, the one book that - mixed with Atlas Shrugged - makes some really insufferable teenagers.
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May 27, 2013 13:08
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Sir Rolo posted:Here's the week in LL101: And of course when Republican politicians put more regulations on abortion clinics they're inevitably aimed at shutting them down, and ensuring health and safety are just excuses. Leospeare posted:Got this one on Facebook:
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May 27, 2013 17:23
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What enemy? That is a legitimate question. What enemy requires a cold calculating psychopath? Conservatives are terrified of China.
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May 27, 2013 17:27
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Guilty Spork posted:What I don't get is why they apparently think those pics of Bush and Reagan make them look more presidential. Here's the leader of the free world! Doing jobs that his biggest supporters normally give to day laborers they pick up from Home Depot!
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May 27, 2013 17:27
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Guilty Spork posted:What I don't get is why they apparently think those pics of Bush and Reagan make them look more presidential. Here's the leader of the free world! Doing jobs that his biggest supporters normally give to day laborers they pick up from Home Depot! They look tough and manly, whereas Obama is stooping awkwardly replanting trees like some hippie liberal? It's not about looking presidential, it's about looking like "someone you could have a beer with", and keeping in mind it's directed to other conservatives, well.
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May 27, 2013 17:57
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Ah, Ender's Game, the one book that - mixed with Atlas Shrugged - makes some really insufferable teenagers. What? Ender's Game is about teenagers being psychologically broken and warped into killers by a shadowy government that is hell-bent on coercing them into participating in genocide. Its main character is a charismatic psychopath who suffers repeated mental breakdowns. How do people not notice these things?
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May 28, 2013 03:17
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Arglebargle III posted:What? Ender's Game is about teenagers being psychologically broken and warped into killers by a shadowy government that is hell-bent on coercing them into participating in genocide. Its main character is a charismatic psychopath who suffers repeated mental breakdowns. Because the author himself didn't either and refuses to accept that interpretation. I attended a book discussion by him where he talked/bragged about how therapists told him they'd used Ender (Speaker For The Dead era, which I admittedly haven't read) as the ideal family/father figure for their clients.
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May 28, 2013 03:28
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Arglebargle III posted:What? Ender's Game is about teenagers being psychologically broken and warped into killers by a shadowy government that is hell-bent on coercing them into participating in genocide. Its main character is a charismatic psychopath who suffers repeated mental breakdowns. Yea most people seem to get the "bullied kid bootstraps himself into super awesome hero soldier" message instead. It's kinda sad.
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May 28, 2013 04:02
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I thought Orsen Scott Card was a proto-fascist these days.
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May 28, 2013 04:41
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Pope Guilty posted:In Romania, sure. Everywhere else he's a shorthand for gruesome, violent tyranny. Even the stories that paint him in a good light make him out to be somebody who tortured and murdered people because it sounded fun at the time. The problem is a lot of his 'brutal stories' came about almost instantly after his death thanks to German pamphlets. There's a decent chunk of experts who believe Vlad was no more brutal than any other ruler of his day, but many Germans and other enemies wanted to make him look like a savage barbarian.
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May 28, 2013 04:46
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He re-wrote Hamlet into the most insane anti-gay thing ever and also wrote a book about not-George Soros funding an evil leftist army to take over America.vyelkin posted:When I first read this post I thought you were talking about Vlad the Impaler, and boy was I confused. Whoops, posted a bit too slow, it's just Orson Scott Card. LP97S fucked around with this message at 04:53 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 04:46
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LP97S posted:He re-wrote Hamlet into the most insane anti-gay thing ever and also wrote a book about not-George Soros funding an evil leftist army to take over America. When I first read this post I thought you were talking about Vlad the Impaler, and boy was I confused. 
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May 28, 2013 04:51
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vyelkin posted:When I first read this post I thought you were talking about Vlad the Impaler, and boy was I confused. "Ok, Vlad Tepes being anti-gay makes sense, but how'd he know about America?!  " 
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May 28, 2013 04:53
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DarkHorse posted:You're not the only one. Hey, I'd pay to read a novel about George Soros' nefarious commie plans to destroy America if it was written by Vlad the Impaler 
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May 28, 2013 05:12
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DarkHorse posted:You're not the only one. Well, vampires are ageless! Oh and I'd read that book too.
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May 28, 2013 05:14
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Learning that Orson Scott Card is a complete rear end in a top hat was my version of learning that Santa Claus isn't real. Ender's Game was the first full length novel that I ever read, and I fell in love with that entire series. I liked the characters because they seemed to be people that had been broken acting like people who were broken and pretty hosed up in the head. Wasn't until I stumbled on his website / blog years later that I discovered how awful he is as a human being. Empire is the only book I've read after that point in time, and that sealed the deal on me giving up Card books forever.
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May 28, 2013 05:33
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Garrand posted:Learning that Orson Scott Card is a complete rear end in a top hat was my version of learning that Santa Claus isn't real. Ender's Game was the first full length novel that I ever read, and I fell in love with that entire series. I liked the characters because they seemed to be people that had been broken acting like people who were broken and pretty hosed up in the head. Wasn't until I stumbled on his website / blog years later that I discovered how awful he is as a human being. Empire is the only book I've read after that point in time, and that sealed the deal on me giving up Card books forever. Card is no Ayn Rand though; the series is not infused with rhetoric to the point that it's impossible to enjoy reading one of his novels, regardless of your opinion of the author as a person. As an author, Orson Scott Card is still a fantastic writer, and personally, I don't give a poo poo what his own opinions or social agenda(s) is/are. Divorcing the concept of author-as-narrator is a foundation of literary criticism.  e: this is a derail, let's stop it
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May 28, 2013 07:14
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If you want to continue, the Sci Fi / Fantasy thread in TBB gets mired in this topic every couple months: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3345499&perpage=40
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Speaking of syfy.quote:TEL AVIV, Israel — The Israelis are developing an airport security device that eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners. It's an armored booth you step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on your person.  Came with this image. Nice glass "armor" and "Israeli" TSA agent.
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May 28, 2013 11:06
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The way GAWD intended.
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May 28, 2013 16:24
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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May 28, 2013 16:35
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Interlude posted:The real answer is probably Muslims, and the countries where they come from. Conservatives aren't terrified of China in the "kill em all turn it to glass" way. Well I got in a huge argument with my grandpa and dad about how we should cut defense spending severely and it was the threat of China they used as their main rebuttal.
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May 28, 2013 16:37
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zoux posted:Well I got in a huge argument with my grandpa and dad about how we should cut defense spending severely and it was the threat of China they used as their main rebuttal. Could they even explain how China is even a threat if you ignore the fact that they depend on us buying their cheap poo poo? Large army, yes, but how would they get here?
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May 28, 2013 16:48
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Could they even explain how China is even a threat if you ignore the fact that they depend on us buying their cheap poo poo? Large army, yes, but how would they get here? I have a conservative friend who believes if we cut any military funding they will literally sail over here on ships and invade.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Could they even explain how China is even a threat if you ignore the fact that they depend on us buying their cheap poo poo? Large army, yes, but how would they get here? Ha. gently caress no. But they were also completely deaf to my arguments to that fact. My dad is a small business owner/job creator and I tried to frame it in terms of "would you invade your best customer" but nope! Racism wins the day again!
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May 28, 2013 16:54
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Fandyien posted:I have a conservative friend who believes if we cut any military funding they will literally sail over here on ships and invade. That has been a long running Letter to the Editor thing in the local newspaper where my parents live. Used to be once a month or a guy would write in with long screed about the Chinese invading soon, or have already landed in Canada and/or Mexico.
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May 28, 2013 17:04
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CitizenKain posted:That has been a long running Letter to the Editor thing in the local newspaper where my parents live. Used to be once a month or a guy would write in with long screed about the Chinese invading soon, or have already landed in Canada and/or Mexico. You have to post some of this.
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