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I don't like Chris G because he seems like an rear end in a top hat. I like watching him play Marvel, but absolutely think he's an rear end in a top hat.
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May 28, 2013 19:25
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Dunno, guess I just don't see what you're seeing then. Ed: Neenski posted:When he and Jwong got poo poo on for pot splitting at Texas showdown, he pretty much told everyone to go gently caress themselves. That, and him calling Mr Wizard a fag to an admittedly sick I admittedly thought he was right on the first one. And the EG guys were pot-splitting monsters when they were still winning games but aside from some complaining in stream chats at the actual time of the finals it never seemed to spill over much. Not that I think pot splitting is great or anything but I think it's up to the organizers to take a stand on that. Money in the FGC is already scarce, not really going to hang it over someone's head because they decided to take the guaranteed money doing something that isn't even illegal under most tournament rules. Second one was bad but like I said, he's not doing that poo poo constantly or anything and I'm not prepared to completely write someone off because of a really dumb thing they said in the heat of the moment while everyone else takes their shots for losing a single set. Unsmart fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 19:26
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When he and Jwong got poo poo on for pot splitting at Texas showdown, he pretty much told everyone to go gently caress themselves. That, and him calling Mr Wizard a fag to an admittedly sick  .
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May 28, 2013 19:28
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As good evidence as any that more money is poison for fighting games.
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May 28, 2013 19:28
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ChrisG has said some rude/dumb poo poo I really dislike, but so have players I really like. My only animosity towards him is because he plays the most lame team. Him skipping Evo would be pretty drat unacceptable though. He's not reigning Evo champ, but is undisputed king of Marvel right now. It's to the detriment of the community for him to deny other players the chance to take him down. He owes it to the community to put it on the line so he can cement his position at the top or we can watch him tumble down a peg.
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May 28, 2013 19:41
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I wonder what his sponsor would have to say about him skipping out? He's their best player by far. I don't think they would like him skipping out on the biggest event.
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May 28, 2013 19:43
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I honestly think it's just that there are too many majors now. It's starting to feel like there's one every other week. You can't really attend all of them across the country, play every game, and still have a 'real' job. Heck, I can't even watch all of them without screwing myself over.
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May 28, 2013 19:50
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Eh, I wouldn't take it too seriously, he's probably just burnt out. I remember last year PR Balrog saying he was taking a long break after Evo, and that never really made any difference.
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May 28, 2013 19:51
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mango sentinel posted:Him skipping Evo would be pretty drat unacceptable though. He's not reigning Evo champ, but is undisputed king of Marvel right now. It's to the detriment of the community for him to deny other players the chance to take him down. He owes it to the community to put it on the line so he can cement his position at the top or we can watch him tumble down a peg. If anything him having a little trouble in recent tournaments makes Evo Marvel that much more exciting. Can Chris G put together some new tech/refine his old tech and retain his throne? Will someone else come out with some new crazy team, or take Zero May Cry/Dieminion's V-Joe/a different Morrigan team/whatever the hell Justin's trying to run all the way? Find out next time
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May 28, 2013 19:52
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EVO is gonna be kind of a cluster gently caress for Marvel again so I can understand not wanting to deal with that.
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May 28, 2013 20:00
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Perhaps being Marvel Evo champ would have a little more prestige if the last two champs hadn't immediately stopped winning anything after their wins. At least for SF4 Infiltration is still the guy to beat.
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May 28, 2013 20:22
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Filipino champ probably could've won a few tournaments after Evo if he just actually used the team that won it instead of that Phoenix poo poo.
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May 28, 2013 20:29
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Double Bill posted:Perhaps being Marvel Evo champ would have a little more prestige if the last two champs hadn't immediately stopped winning anything after their wins. At least for SF4 Infiltration is still the guy to beat. Different reasons though. Viscant got shafted by the system and character nerfs, Champ is just being stubborn.
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May 28, 2013 20:39
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Viscant got second at Season's Beatings to Flocker, which was pretty much the only big vanilla tournament after Evo (that I can think of, at least). Champ still does fairly well but after Evo is when Chris really started dominating. I don't think it's completely fair to say that the Evo champs haven't done anything after winning. Hell, Chris probably would have won Evo if he didn't have that hard tag-brain fart in losers finals against Champ. I'm with Mango Sentinel in thinking that Chris should go because he's the best UMvC3 player in the world. He should go to the biggest tournament to prove it, or so that the winner can say he won with Chris in the tournament whether or not he beats Chris along the way. Out of curiosity, has there been another case of a player that has dominated like Chris not going to Evo? The closest thing I can think of would have been Justin not going during MvC2, but Justin never missed Evo.
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May 28, 2013 20:44
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Besides non-Americans having visa issues, none that I can think of.
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May 28, 2013 21:15
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mango sentinel posted:It's to the detriment of the community for him to deny other players the chance to take him down. Maybe that's his reason.
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May 28, 2013 21:19
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Sonata Mused posted:The other ones I remember clearly are when he complains that he doesn't get enough "special treatment" at tournaments. That, purely by virtue of his e-celeb status, that he should be able to register whenever/not need a badge/show up late/not pay for things. Not going to say that ChrisG doesn't say dumb things on social media, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of fanatiq, here, who is more or less in his own league of idiocy in this department.
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May 28, 2013 21:39
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With the caveat that Fanatiq isn't even that successful in Marvel (or at all in other games).
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May 28, 2013 21:54
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iPodschun posted:Out of curiosity, has there been another case of a player that has dominated like Chris not going to Evo? The closest thing I can think of would have been Justin not going during MvC2, but Justin never missed Evo. Justin also dominated mvc2 a lot harder than Chris does at mvc3.
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May 28, 2013 21:57
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animatorZed posted:Not going to say that ChrisG doesn't say dumb things on social media, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of fanatiq, here, who is more or less in his own league of idiocy in this department. Nah Chris has complained about getting DQ'd from tournaments for not showing up on time. A lot.
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May 28, 2013 21:57
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All this talk about why ChrisG might skip Evo and nobody's mentioned the fact that Evo runs PS3 Marvel?
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MrXmas posted:All this talk about why ChrisG might skip Evo and nobody's mentioned the fact that Evo runs PS3 Marvel? He said it has nothing to do it, but it's worth noting. PS3, 2/3 in pools, winner can switch order, etc. EVO Marvel rules are awful. Brett824 fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 22:34
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animatorZed posted:Not going to say that ChrisG doesn't say dumb things on social media, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of fanatiq, here, who is more or less in his own league of idiocy in this department. Speaking of the devil, he's streaming now chatting about some problem with Keits and issues with Knives leading up to some poo poo with Fanatiq and Keits or something: http://www.twitch.tv/mrfanatiq
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May 28, 2013 22:43
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Brett824 posted:He said it has nothing to do it, but it's worth noting. PS3, 2/3 in pools, winner can switch order, etc. EVO Marvel rules are awful. What does "winner can switch order" mean?
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May 28, 2013 22:59
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ToastyPotato posted:What does "winner can switch order" mean? If you win a game, you can change your team order before the next game (but you cannot switch characters). The loser can switch characters.
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May 28, 2013 23:00
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-crofts beat me to it.
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Brett824 posted:He said it has nothing to do it, but it's worth noting. PS3, 2/3 in pools, winner can switch order, etc. EVO Marvel rules are awful. Just curious, as I've recently gotten back into fighting games again, but why do most tournaments run 360? Is it just because more people have a 360 over a PS3?
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May 28, 2013 23:04
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:Just curious, as I've recently gotten back into fighting games again, but why do most tournaments run 360? Is it just because more people have a 360 over a PS3? Capcom are really bad at making games so the PS3 versions of Marvel and AE are noticeably worse than the XBox versions.
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May 28, 2013 23:08
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:Just curious, as I've recently gotten back into fighting games again, but why do most tournaments run 360? Is it just because more people have a 360 over a PS3? Because 360 is better for less lag, but Evo runs PS3 because it's sponsored by Sony.
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May 28, 2013 23:09
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Tae posted:Because 360 is better for less lag, but Evo runs PS3 because it's sponsored by Sony. This isn't a myth either, the lag on ps3 is definitely noticeable, even on the simple stages people select to reduce it. Its also not lag as in "input delay" but more like actual dropped frames which is erratic and inconsistent to account for. That said, there might also be differences in input delay as well, but I'm not 100% on that. The screen used will usually have a larger effect on this. Technically, input delay can be accounted for on combos, although it can still mess you up. Input delay completely screws with reaction time though, which is awful for fast paced games. Online marvel has heaps of both 
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May 28, 2013 23:17
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iPodschun posted:Out of curiosity, has there been another case of a player that has dominated like Chris not going to Evo? The closest thing I can think of would have been Justin not going during MvC2, but Justin never missed Evo. For some non-Marvel games yeah, US would field their best but the dominant japanese players wouldn't attend. Best example I can think of is CVS1 where chikyuu entered the tournament just because (was considered an average CVS1 player, he was there for Alpha 3) and won. or when top japananese ST players wouldn't fly over.
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May 28, 2013 23:22
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Didn't a guy called Tomo completely dominate old, old school SF2? edit: who didn't go to Evo. Ignore me I can't read.
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:For some non-Marvel games yeah, US would field their best but the dominant japanese players wouldn't attend. Best example I can think of is CVS1 where chikyuu entered the tournament just because (was considered an average CVS1 player, he was there for Alpha 3) and won. or when top japananese ST players wouldn't fly over. Japanese anime players also didn't really come to American tournaments. So Daigo won Evo Guilty Gear twice (while his team got 3rd in the first SBO with nothing after that), and the top 8's were filled with players like Mago and Tokido, who while excellent players in multiple games aren't really known for GG in Japan. At least RF was there multiple times blowing himself, winning in 2005.
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May 28, 2013 23:45
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Dias posted:With the caveat that Fanatiq isn't even that successful in Marvel (or at all in other games). That's not true though
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May 29, 2013 00:03
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JohnnyBigPotatoes posted:Didn't a guy called Tomo completely dominate old, old school SF2? Tomo the one true god. yes. dont think evo was a thing in his heyday. he was in the true old school FGC oh people were talking about virtua fighter the other day well the NY VFDC crew has a weekly stream...its on now http://twitch.tv/nyc_vf some of nyc's long time vets. sometimes we get new people too. AkumaHokoru fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 29, 2013 |
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I think Tomo stopped playing seriously when SSF2 came out. That was way before Evo was a thing (I think it probably predates B3 as well). He's part of the same generation as Mike Watson and Jeff Schaefer. Who's the oldest active player right now, Valle?
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May 29, 2013 00:51
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Watson still goes to tourneys I'm pretty sure.
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May 29, 2013 00:59
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Mr. Fun posted:I don't like Chris G because he seems like an rear end in a top hat. I like watching him play Marvel, but absolutely think he's an rear end in a top hat. A casual player I know says he can be a bit of a dick if you've got nothing to offer his game, this was WAAAAY back in loving competative third strike days so maybe he's a tremendous rear end in a top hat now. (also don't like the ChrisG vibes). He also looks just straight up un-fun to play against. mango sentinel posted:ChrisG has said some rude/dumb poo poo I really dislike, but so have players I really like. My only animosity towards him is because he plays the most lame team. I really don't get why he's king of marvel has his game changed much from morrigan/spencer/hawkeye? It looks like it's a matter of sussing out the gaps and going in for the kill to take his fireball game down*, but if his combos are solid I take back any doubt about his kingly stats *way easier said than done
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SleepySonata posted:A casual player I know says he can be a bit of a dick if you've got nothing to offer his game, this was WAAAAY back in loving competative third strike days so maybe he's a tremendous rear end in a top hat now. (also don't like the ChrisG vibes). ChrisG is just ridiculously good. You can rag on him all you want about his personality, but when it comes to his Marvel skills he's far from a guy who just sits back and chucks plasma all day.
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Jmcrofts posted:If you win a game, you can change your team order before the next game (but you cannot switch characters). The loser can switch characters. I think you should be able to swap either assist with the point character, but not other team order changes. Basically keep it how it would be if MVC3 was an arcade game - you can hold down either assist button to change your order, but not re-pick them in a whole new order. So ABC you could change to BAC or CBA, but not ACB, BCA, CAB, etc.
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