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swickles posted:I remember La Folie being quite tart. Like super tart. Is my memory off? I feel like that wouldn't be the best starter sour if not. I feel like La Folie is pretty accessible - Transatlantique Kriek is super tart, though? I've also never seen Mariage Parfait, but I see Boon's Oude Gueze and Oude Kriek on the regular around my neighborhood.
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How the hell does Rayon Vert have a 3.6 on Untappd? Are the people drinking this daft? I've been drinking this since release and it's still impeccable for what it is. To pay homage to Orval I'm drinking my last bottle out of an Orval glass. So long $7 4 packs, it's been a good run. I hope this is released again.
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May 28, 2013 04:59
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People are definitely put off by the ridiculous carbonation and head retention. Rayon Vert is super delicious if you're prepared to wait out the meringue-like foam though.
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May 28, 2013 06:51
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Rayon Vert is the only bottle of beer that has ever exploded on me in the store. Seriously, I picked up a couple bottles and half of them exploded when I set them on the cart without any significant force. I honestly wasn't sure if there was an unintentional infection or what.
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May 28, 2013 07:30
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The bottle of Rayon Vert I had was massively overcarbonated, I lost about 1/4 of the bottle from foam just from opening it. When I poured it I had to wait 20 minutes for the foam to die down enough to drink it. It didn't taste infected but it wasn't very good either, you lose a lot of flavor when the carbonation is that high.
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May 28, 2013 13:07
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Had Love Child No. 3 Sunday night after picking it up Friday from my liquor store. Stuff was pretty drat good but the $20 price tag was a bit steep. My shop also had Fantome Extra Sour 2013 but at $29 a bottle, there was no way I was going to fork that out for something that could be poo poo. Edit: Potion, child, same difference right? Compusaurus fucked around with this message at 16:38 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 13:52
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Midorka posted:Is Boons Marriage Parfait rare? I've only seen the framboise and the kriek. Nope. It's also delicious.
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May 28, 2013 14:52
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Compusaurus posted:Had Love Potion No. 3 Sunday night after picking it up Friday from my liquor store. Stuff was pretty drat good but the $20 price tag was a bit steep. My shop also had Fantome Extra Sour 2013 but at $29 a bottle, there was no way I was going to fork that out for something that could be poo poo. I assume you mean Love Child No. 3. It's not a cheap beer in any way, but at $20/750 it's a pretty good deal next to other sours of comparable quality in 750 and especially 375ml. All are completely worth it if you can stomach the price of admission.
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May 28, 2013 15:37
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Kudosx posted:
Being in the UK means being caught in the middle of extortionately-priced import stuff from USA on one hand, and generally extortionate Mikkeller and friends on the other.  I really, really envy you USians your prices for six-packs.Loonytoad Quack posted:Cracked open the Stone's Imperial Stout and this is really drat good drinking. Best American beer I've had so far and I'm lead to believe the others are as good or better. Can't wait to work through the rest. Which shop did you end up getting your haul from? I'm a big fan of a load of the beers in your picture. And a general question: How do you guys deal with lupulin threshold shift? After brewing some ridiculously hoppy/bitter beers, and drinking a lot of fresh American and American-inspired ones, I'm finding drinking something like Ruination a pleasant and hardly extreme experience. While I wouldn't like to go back to spitting out Hop Stoopid for being so bitter, I'd like to have a refreshed sense of hop aroma and bitterness. If I stayed away from beer for a while, how long should I abstain to reset my palate? Or is the damage done and I am stuck searching for more and more IBU and hops per gallon?
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May 28, 2013 15:47
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Kaiho posted:While I wouldn't like to go back to spitting out Hop Stoopid for being so bitter, I'd like to have a refreshed sense of hop aroma and bitterness. If I stayed away from beer for a while, how long should I abstain to reset my palate? Or is the damage done and I am stuck searching for more and more IBU and hops per gallon? I'm actually rediscovering my love for pale ales in response to hop bomb-y IPAs and IIPAs. I find they tend to be more delicate on the palate but the good ones don't lose complexity. A good pale ale can be very floral and fruity in character with very pleasing complexity from aroma to finish. I mean I still love huge (I)IPAs, but pale ales are a good respite. Pikes Peak Brewing Co in Monument, CO tapped their Incline IIPA yesterday. It was really drat good, pretty much everything you'd expect out of an IIPA. They are teasing at a big reveal this summer, I'm hoping it's that they're going to start canning or bottling. Mostly because it really is sort of a hidden gem and I want to send some back to my friends in Chicago.
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I understand the carbonation issues with Rayon Vert. I've had some bottles foam to the brim within the first few seconds, while last night the bottle was only half foam and it was rather brief. Fresh I never had those problems so I assume Green Flash didn't take into account for the Brett doing its work in the bottle. I still find it to be delicious though. vvvvvvvvvvvvv They haven't released it again right? So any Rayon Vert is over a year old, yes? Midorka fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 16:00
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Rayon Vert is delicious, carb issues aside. Makes me want to pick up a four pack. The only time I've ever had any carbonation issues with it was last week when I was at an event where we used it as part of a crash course in beer blending with John Laffler (and at that point, it was already a year old).
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May 28, 2013 16:03
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3.6 out of 5.0 says "very good", to me. I think we're all suffering from a bit of ratings inflation.
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May 28, 2013 17:48
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Rayon Vert is a tremendously awesome beer. Bottle bombs aside (QC problem not design problem) if anyone thinks the carbonation level is silly go open up an Orval and compare. That level of carbonation is actually part of its flavor profile and it would suffer if it were only carbonated to your standard 2.4vol/co2 that most American beer is bottled/canned at.
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May 28, 2013 17:53
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Midorka posted:
BA says it's a year-round: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2743/76323 I saw nothing on the Green Flash site that said otherwise. I know I've never had any serious trouble finding it.
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Had a small gathering last night and popped open a fresh Saison Brett. Once again, my wife loved it until she noticed the hazy Brett floating around in my glass. After she found out it was yeast, it was "Eww! That's gross!" and went back to her bottle conditioned Boulevard wheat. Literally the second year in a row I've had this exact same story. Next year we drink from the bottle, I guess. Side note this year's batch is as great as ever. Much harder to find multiples this year too. v I think we should just do blindfolded tastings for her. Loves the flavor, hates the floaties. It also doesn't help that she's in nursing school, so bacteria is such horrible things. "Wow, this Oud Bruin is really great!" *Reads label* "I'm not drinking that! It has Lactobacillus and Pediococcus in it!" *readily eats yogurt or saurkraut. Docjowles posted:but no fucks given, it's still delicious. More for me. This is the best part of bad beer wives. Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 18:13 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 18:02
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Captain Shortbus posted:Had a small gathering last night and popped open a fresh Saison Brett. Once again, my wife loved it until she noticed the hazy Brett floating around in my glass. After she found out it was yeast, it was "Eww! That's gross!" and went back to her brittle conditioned Boulevard wheat. Literally the second year in a row I've had this exact same story. My wife also can't stand Saison Brett, but to her it smells exactly like bug spray. It weirds her out too much. Once she said it I could see where she was coming from, but no fucks given, it's still delicious. More for me.
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May 28, 2013 18:05
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I'm pretty sure Rayon Vert went year round
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Valencia posted:(Speaking of local CO stuff my roommate and I just cracked open an Elevation Senorita horchata porter. Really tasty, I'm a big fan of cinnamon porters and this is hitting all the right spots, as well as making me wish that Roth could bottle Forgotten Hollow properly without making it a hot infected mess.) poo poo why have I never thought to make a horchata-flavored beer!? In an unrelated note, is the Elevation porter a tough thing to come by or could one conceivably trade for it?
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I reaaally want to try Saison brett sometime. This weekend I did crack a Love Child #3 with a buddy. Loooved it. Also drank Anchorage White IPA (with Brett), Espresso IRS, and KBS. It was fun to compare the two stouts side by side. We saved the dregs of the Love Child and White IPA for tossing into a home brew hahaha.
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May 28, 2013 18:31
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How is it not fairly attainable in Chicago?
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Captain Shortbus posted:How is it not fairly attainable in Chicago? It is. At least in the 'burbs it sits for at least a month.
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crazyfish posted:BA says it's a year-round: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2743/76323 I saw nothing on the Green Flash site that said otherwise. I know I've never had any serious trouble finding it. Interesting, I thought it was a one time release, especially since a store near me has been selling it at cost to get rid of it. I wish Green Flash would date their beer so I could be sure. I'm drinking a Brooklyn Brewery Brooklyner Weisse. It's pretty tasty, it reminds me of a more earthy Apollo. Brooklyner Weisse is earthy and chalky with a nice medley of cloves, bubblegum and hints of banana. I will be buying this through the summer.
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The one thing I can distinctly remember from celebrating my 21st at a bar was that Lost Abbey Carnevale was loving great. Oh and Great Lakes' Rye of the Tiger, and Weyerbacher White Sun, and ESPECIALLY Lagunitas Undercover Investigation Shutdown. That was a favorite amongst the crowd because it was 10%, 3 bucks a pop in a tiny glass, and tasted awesome for the ABV. gently caress, draft craft beer is going to destroy my savings.
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Made it to Wicked Weed Brewing in Asheville over the weekend, and they are doing it right. Very cool spot, lots of outdoor seating, very good food in the restaurant, and a bunch of really good beer. They'd suspended flights for Asheville Beer Week, because of the crowds, but you could get 10oz pours of everything. That plus time constraints meant I didn't get to try as many of their beers as I would have liked, but the ones I had ranged from good to very good. Coolcumber was an interesting session golden/pale ale, the passionfruit saison was very fruity, and the one wild ale they had on (a dubbel) was tasty. It's definitely a new must-stop place in Asheville. Also got to try Habanero Sculpin at the Thirsty Monk, and I would love to have that beer available on a regular basis. Terrible beer to drink if you're going to taste anything else though, it totally destroyed my palate. Surprise of the trip was a new brewer in Black Mountain, Lookout Brewing. They've been open less than a year, I think, and just moved into their new brewery/tap room space. They don't even have a fermenting tank, they are still doing everything in 5-gallon buckets, in an unairconditioned warehouse. Amazingly, their beer was very solid. They had a session pale ale called Hanky Panky that I would compare favorably to 21st's Bitter American. They had 3 IPAs on tap, basically variations of the same recipe that they are trying to dial in, and the Some(3) IPA was a very nice east-coast style malty IPA. The other standout for me was their scotch ale, which was slightly smoked, which is something I hadn't tried before. Smoked porters and stouts, but never a scotch ale. I thought it went really nicely with the style. They are only about 5 minutes off of I40, right on the way into Asheville, and they're worth a stop.
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Midorka posted:I understand the carbonation issues with Rayon Vert. I've had some bottles foam to the brim within the first few seconds, while last night the bottle was only half foam and it was rather brief. Fresh I never had those problems so I assume Green Flash didn't take into account for the Brett doing its work in the bottle. I still find it to be delicious though. Rayon Vert is year-round. I live less than a mile from the the brewery.
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wattershed posted:poo poo why have I never thought to make a horchata-flavored beer!? In an unrelated note, is the Elevation porter a tough thing to come by or could one conceivably trade for it? That's fun, CCB just released a Horchata Ale today. It's incredibly authentic and very good somehow.
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wattershed posted:poo poo why have I never thought to make a horchata-flavored beer!? In an unrelated note, is the Elevation porter a tough thing to come by or could one conceivably trade for it? If the Denver guys don't chime in I can find out from her how rare it may or may not be. I would wager not all that much as she seemingly just wandered into a beer store with her buddy and went "hmm that looks good, that does too, I'll grab me one-a them too sure" and came home from that trip with about 10 bottles. She hasn't brought anything back in the last few trips since she's been on foot and none of the good shops are near where she stays, but a local friend is poking her for some Deschutes and another friend is willing to pay dearly if she snags another Sanctification, so she might be able to bring another Senorita home at some point soon.
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Valencia posted:If the Denver guys don't chime in I can find out from her how rare it may or may not be. I would wager not all that much as she seemingly just wandered into a beer store with her buddy and went "hmm that looks good, that does too, I'll grab me one-a them too sure" and came home from that trip with about 10 bottles. She hasn't brought anything back in the last few trips since she's been on foot and none of the good shops are near where she stays, but a local friend is poking her for some Deschutes and another friend is willing to pay dearly if she snags another Sanctification, so she might be able to bring another Senorita home at some point soon. Not rare. Takes some looking because everywhere that carries Elevation doesn't necessarily have Senorita, but Total Beverage's website says they have it. Setting up a trade shouldn't be too hard and it's only $11 / 750ml. They are seasonal and Elevation does do stuff like "rest" recipes for a year (Signal de Botrange won't be made in 2014) but as long as you're not looking for seasonal beers out of season, Elevation should generally be pretty easy to acquire. I personally just wish they weren't so drat far away from everything. I mean it's not like it's hard to get to Salida and I'll actually spend at least one weekend camping and hiking around there, but I am definitely spoiled with most of CO's good breweries being along the Front Range. Also I wish somewhere carried their full lineup so I didn't have do stuff like chase horchata porter around the Denver metro area.
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Anyone have recommendations for a good 6-pack session beer available in the New Jersey area? I am up to my ears in barred aged imperial stouts and IIPAs but am not sure what a day-to-day solid drink would be. I was interested in Carton/Kane brewing companies, but apparently they only do growler fills. Flying fish and river horse are local brands, but I'm not sure on quality.
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Hutzpah posted:Anyone have recommendations for a good 6-pack session beer available in the New Jersey area? = 1. Victory Headwaters 2. Victory Summer Love
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May 29, 2013 01:10
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Another California beer question anything good at Solvang? Odin's stout sounds safe....
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rage-saq posted:Rayon Vert is a tremendously awesome beer. Bottle bombs aside (QC problem not design problem) if anyone thinks the carbonation level is silly go open up an Orval and compare. That level of carbonation is actually part of its flavor profile and it would suffer if it were only carbonated to your standard 2.4vol/co2 that most American beer is bottled/canned at. Something tells me you haven't gotten the REALLY carbonated ones. Last two times I've gotten a 4-pack (so, 2/3 ever) it's been so carbonated even when fridge cold that the seemingly tiniest pour fills my entire glass with foam. I've poured Orval many times and it's never like that. Granted, I love Rayon Vert, but it's such a pain in the rear end to pour when it's like that since it takes an eon to get a glass without wasting half of it.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:That's fun, CCB just released a Horchata Ale today. It's incredibly authentic and very good somehow. I had it on the tour, it was awesome! Coming from someone whose wife has an uncle that owns an Horchata factory in Valencia, Spain. I love Horchata.
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Hutzpah posted:Anyone have recommendations for a good 6-pack session beer available in the New Jersey area? Founders All Day IPA is my new summer obsession.
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Munkaboo posted:I had it on the tour, it was awesome! Coming from someone whose wife has an uncle that owns an Horchata factory in Valencia, Spain. I love Horchata. The reason I can't trust Andrew Zimmern's palate on Bizarre Foods is due to his declaration that horchata was the worst thing he's ever tasted. Horchata + a California Burrito is the only way to live. Next up, someone make a thai iced tea milk stout.
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One of Boulevard's brewers invited me down for a beer next week and I got to thinking of different beers I would tell him about if I weren't a complete rear end and wanted to ruin the opportunity. One was a Thai peanut butter stout.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:That's fun, CCB just released a Horchata Ale today. It's incredibly authentic and very good somehow. Really wish I had a chance to try this one - I've heard it's amazing.
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On a similar vein, the Brew Riot homebrew festival I checked out about a week ago had a Vietnamese coffee stout that was pretty loving good. I kept hearing about it because of all the hype from the previous year: https://www.facebook.com/NightOwlCraftAles/posts/437965586216404 If you can't see that: quote:Brewed in honor of our dear friend Ha, we designed this beer to capture the essence of a favorite beverage— Vietnamese Iced Coffee— which is traditionally served over sweetened condensed milk. Roasted barley and chocolate malt provide the bold& flavorful foundation of our Stout. Mouth feel was crucial so flaked oats, barley, & lactose were added to a high temperature mash resulting in a smooth but robust body. After primary fermentation, we added cold pressed Trung Nguyen brand coffee and then aged in the keg, allowing plenty of time for flavor and aroma development. To top it off, we are serving our Half A Laugh on nitro to further enhance the creamy finish of our stout.
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