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rock2much posted:Which trees are you specing into? The fire damage and the middle/melee one? I specced to Bloodsplosion and Release the Beast with a Diesel Sickle class mod (gives me a +5 in silence the voices and a +43% Melee damage). Because of that I mostly stick with the Love Thumper. With this build I have done just over 77million damage off of Bloodsplosion, when that poo poo gets going it's a goddam freight train.
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Neo Helbeast posted:I specced to Bloodsplosion and Release the Beast with a Diesel Sickle class mod (gives me a +5 in silence the voices and a +43% Melee damage). Because of that I mostly stick with the Love Thumper. With this build I have done just over 77million damage off of Bloodsplosion, when that poo poo gets going it's a goddam freight train. Father of 12 bastards! That is crazy awesome. I'm gonna have to run that spec this weekend and play with it. I might have to snag a love thumper off someone though. And a level 61 diesel sickle. Krampus Grewcock fucked around with this message at 01:22 on May 29, 2013 |
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Pretty much any build you can think of works well for Krieg. Bloodlust + Hellborn - over 100% damage reduction, 30+ second buzz axe rampages, healing from causing DOTs and melee kills increase explosion damage + bloodsplosions. Flame of the Firehawk preferred, I think for massive DOTs and increased explosion damage. Mania + Hellborn - Massive melee damage, chain release the beast, keep your shields down very very long so firehawk or melee shield. Bloodlust + Mania - Lovethumper and release the beast, since Lovethumper melee damage will get modified by both +Melee buffs AND +explosion buffs, I think. Don't even have to release the beast and could just run around with a rubi. That said some of his skills are just puzzling. Why is the fifth tier skill in bloodlust +reload speed? Who the gently caress takes that over stack retention? And assault rifle damage in fight for your life? Useless. I have trouble cycling in his bloodlust tree. Gun -> Melee -> Grenade -> Gun. You can kind of get around this by using torgue weapons o rockets, but I'm not sure what counts as explosions from torgue guns. Overkill healing seems bad, but one point seems enough. Light the Fuse sucks, like every other skill that does damage. Damage dealing skills should scale to weapon DPS or something like Diablo. jackofarcades fucked around with this message at 01:28 on May 29, 2013 |
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KidKrampus posted:Father of 12 bastards! That is crazy awesome. I'm gonna have to run that spec this weekend and play with it. I'll give you a copy of mine when I get on later tonight. jackofarcades posted:Pretty much any build you can think of works well for Krieg. Thrill of the Kill is a mandatory skill in my opinion. And yeah a lot of his skills are pretty useless(Really, weapon swap speed?). BattleTech fucked around with this message at 01:32 on May 29, 2013 |
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jackofarcades posted:That said some of his skills are just puzzling. Why is the fifth tier skill in bloodlust +reload speed? Who the gently caress takes that over stack retention? And assault rifle damage in fight for your life? Useless. To me there really isn't very much middle ground for skill utility in this game. Either the skill is really good and useful or just completely worthless in most situations.
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I picked this up on the steam sale and started out with Zer0. I just managed to finish "Bright Lights, Flying City" when I realized I was just bored playing as a sniper and melee didn't appeal to me. I rerolled as the mecromancer and am loving it so far. Does anyone have any suggested builds or recommended skills for Gaige?
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It's not fair if you say this:jackofarcades posted:That said some of his skills are just puzzling. Why is the fifth tier skill in bloodlust +reload speed? Who the gently caress takes that over stack retention? And assault rifle damage in fight for your life? Useless. jackofarcades posted:I have trouble cycling in his bloodlust tree. Gun -> Melee -> Grenade -> Gun. - because it makes me think you should re-consider using some of those skills you question. Ultimately, I agree with you, and I haven't bothered slagging anything yet at lvl 49. Once that Mania freight train starts up, it's a pleasure to keep it running smoothly. I owe it to Hamb0nius for dragging me through the Bar Brawl ten times, because I jumped from lvl 42 to 48 in about half an hour. jackofarcades posted:Light the Fuse sucks, like every other skill that does damage. It's really fun to get into this playstyle, but I humbly hosed up everything when switching to my Mechromancer and promptly making GBS threads my Anarchy stacks away because of early reloading habits creeping back. 
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So what's the best method to grind out 58-61? Finished the main quest lines in UVHM for the main story, DLC1+2 with tons of side quests and all of DLC3 left but if there is a fast way to grind the last three levels I'd rather do that, gear up and do the side quests with 61 Legendaries.
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BGrifter posted:So what's the best method to grind out 58-61? Finished the main quest lines in UVHM for the main story, DLC1+2 with tons of side quests and all of DLC3 left but if there is a fast way to grind the last three levels I'd rather do that, gear up and do the side quests with 61 Legendaries. You beat all that and you're still not 61? Twice now I've gotten to level 61 just after after finishing Opportunity.
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I've been stuck on the last mission for a good while, but it's past the point of no return. Can I get some goons to help me out here, or will the game not let me?
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Speedboat Jones posted:You beat all that and you're still not 61? Twice now I've gotten to level 61 just after after finishing Opportunity. I did my usual routine from TVHM when the cap was 50 and skipped all the side quests for when I was capped. Can go back and do a ton of those to cap if necessary, it'd just be easier if there was a mindless grind I can do while watching TV like Fleshstick used to be. I've got an itch to farm bosses for Legendaries but it's kind of pointless so close to the cap.
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Neo Helbeast posted:I'll give you a copy of mine when I get on later tonight. I swear by thrill of the kill simply because I love killing an enemy, who's low on health, with one melee attack and getting all my health back. Also I think it's completely dependent on how you want to play krieg for skills like weapon swap speed. Buddy of mine is not interested in his melee abilities at all so faster swap speed is like a godsend to get he bloodlust train going. Plus I swear by Axton's faster weapon swaps because I goddamn hate having slow swap speeds. Same for faster reloading on any character. Edit: Also I love light the fuses cause I find myself dying a lot more without it. Best way to use it is learning who is weak to explosion damage and keeping that enemy alive until the very end just in case you happen to go down. Bumper Stickup fucked around with this message at 04:43 on May 29, 2013 |
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Jake Blues posted:It's not fair if you say this: In general I have problem with kill skills since I'm always playing with other people, so they're not guaranteed. My wife has Hellborn and FotFH while my brother has release the beast. Also my guns are kind of bad right now. So I have a hard time getting that initial gun kill and then keeping the train going . Still don't think a little weapon swap speed or reload speed will help, especially when at this point they'd be taking away points from better skills like salt the wound. My current opening move is essentially: throw a tesla or bouncing betty, shoot a little bit with a vladof, and once my stacks are above 50 I rampage and hopefully never die. Unless I'm facing buzzards in which case I just die.
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May 29, 2013 04:40
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fungi^2 posted:I've been stuck on the last mission for a good while, but it's past the point of no return. Can I get some goons to help me out here, or will the game not let me?
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May 29, 2013 04:42
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jackofarcades posted:Unless I'm facing buzzards in which case I just die. Buzzards can eat a bag of dicks.
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Neo Helbeast and I just loving cleared out the Bar Room Brawl with his bloodsplosion build and it is loving insane. He is not kidding when he says it can do upwards of hundreds of millions of damage once it gets started. I had a chain going that was just instantly killing ultimate bad asses. Thanks again dude for the gear, and the build, you are awesome hot poo poo, for real.
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Neo Helbeast posted:Thrill of the Kill is a mandatory skill in my opinion. And yeah a lot of his skills are pretty useless(Really, weapon swap speed?). Actually, I find Blood Twitch to be quite valuable in UVHM when you need to rapidly switch between your main Slag weapon and your primary damage dealer. It's drat near instant when it procs, and running a mostly Hellborn spec, what else am I going to put the points in to? BGrifter posted:So what's the best method to grind out 58-61? Finished the main quest lines in UVHM for the main story, DLC1+2 with tons of side quests and all of DLC3 left but if there is a fast way to grind the last three levels I'd rather do that, gear up and do the side quests with 61 Legendaries. Pyro Pete's bar brawl is seriously one of the fastest ways to grind out your last few levels.
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Soylent Pudding posted:I picked this up on the steam sale and started out with Zer0. I just managed to finish "Bright Lights, Flying City" when I realized I was just bored playing as a sniper and melee didn't appeal to me. I rerolled as the mecromancer and am loving it so far. Does anyone have any suggested builds or recommended skills for Gaige? If you want the excitement of big damage and not being able to hit anything, I recommend the Ordered Chaos tree (right most). Having 400 stacks of Anarchy is amazing.
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Soylent Pudding posted:I picked this up on the steam sale and started out with Zer0. I just managed to finish "Bright Lights, Flying City" when I realized I was just bored playing as a sniper and melee didn't appeal to me. I rerolled as the mecromancer and am loving it so far. Does anyone have any suggested builds or recommended skills for Gaige? I just noticed something too during my UVHM Krieg run. In X-COMmunicated, the e-tech assault rifle you're given for the quest will change stats every time you load the game. Having a fire version is making this a lot easier.
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Dr.Smasher posted:If you want the excitement of big damage and not being able to hit anything, I recommend the Ordered Chaos tree (right most). Having 400 stacks of Anarchy is amazing. Of course, investing in "Close Enough" from the Best Friends Forever tree helps compensate for your lack of accuracy.
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KidKrampus posted:Neo Helbeast and I just loving cleared out the Bar Room Brawl with his bloodsplosion build and it is loving insane. He is not kidding when he says it can do upwards of hundreds of millions of damage once it gets started. I had a chain going that was just instantly killing ultimate bad asses. This post makes me happy. Also I need to revise my highest damage to 352108K or 352 million damage. BattleTech fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 29, 2013 |
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I guess I don't have any more excuses for not respeccing to bloodlust/mania. being on fire is pretty fun, but I can't front on that kind of DPS.
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Neo Helbeast posted:This post makes me happy. Also I need to revise my highest damage to 352108K or 352 million damage. Could you do a psycho make over for me as well? I want to be a badass psycho killer!
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delpheye posted:I guess I don't have any more excuses for not respeccing to bloodlust/mania. being on fire is pretty fun, but I can't front on that kind of DPS. Bloodsplosion is more situational because it's based on overkill damage and grouped mobs.
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jackofarcades posted:Bloodsplosion is more situational because it's based on overkill damage and grouped mobs. edit: eh gently caress it. wtf do I know?
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Situational does not apply to the majesty of bloodsplosion. Use it every time, all the time.
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Hamb0nius, or whomever recognizes the following: (apologies because I am stupid and forgetful) What are the launchers you stuck on your Gunzerker that spew rockets all over the place? Specific flavor of Norfleet? It had the PBFG spheres killing everything too, if that helps the description. Is that something anyone could dupe me in the future, or something I could earn through some quest spamming? I've gone through the story at least six full times now, and I've rarely done side missions. I went into Lynchwood for the first time the other day, and only to get that Sheriff's Badge relic. I did all the Cult Following missions yesterday, for the first time ever, and explored so much more of this map than I thought it actually contained. Made me even more excited to jump into the DLC - and going into a lot of unexplored territory is refreshingly enjoyable because I'm challenged on who to expect to fight next. Video Nasty fucked around with this message at 21:49 on May 29, 2013 |
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Okay, Gaige with Anarchy and the bullet ricochet ability is just too hilarious. I'm blowing through areas that caused me no end of trouble as Zer0 and I'm having a blast doing it. Bouncing shots around corners and off the wall behind shield carrying enemies to hit them in the rear end is just way too  . The death robot is pretty too cool I guess.
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KidKrampus posted:Situational does not apply to the majesty of bloodsplosion. Use it every time, all the time. Speaking of which, I figured out how Bloodsplosion scales so quickly. Each Bloodlust stack gives an extra 5% damage to the explosion of Bloodsplosion which caps out at 500% then from there (Assuming melee is what kicked off the whole thing) it gets an extra 15% from strip the flesh because it gets a generic explosive damage. So it goes 1000-700% Melee +43% Melee Mod& 25% Melee Relic + 150K Love thumper + 500% explosion + 15% eplosion bonus= Help, all I can see is orange.
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Neo Helbeast posted:Speaking of which, I figured out how Bloodsplosion scales so quickly. Each Bloodlust stack gives an extra 5% damage to the explosion of Bloodsplosion which caps out at 500% then from there (Assuming melee is what kicked off the whole thing) it gets an extra 15% from strip the flesh because it gets a generic explosive damage. So it goes 1000-700% Melee +43% Melee Mod& 25% Melee Relic + 150K Love thumper + 500% explosion + 15% eplosion bonus= Help, all I can see is orange. I want to do this! How quickly can I hope to go from level 53 to 61? 
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Neo Helbeast posted:Speaking of which, I figured out how Bloodsplosion scales so quickly. Each Bloodlust stack gives an extra 5% damage to the explosion of Bloodsplosion which caps out at 500% then from there (Assuming melee is what kicked off the whole thing) it gets an extra 15% from strip the flesh because it gets a generic explosive damage. So it goes 1000-700% Melee +43% Melee Mod& 25% Melee Relic + 150K Love thumper + 500% explosion + 15% eplosion bonus= Help, all I can see is orange. Oh, I didn't know this. Anyway all I meant was that Bloodspslosion is always good, but it really gets insane numbers in certain places like Pyro Pete.
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I'm only just starting the second playthrough with my Krieg, but I was messing around with Bloodlust when I was going through Sawtooth Cauldron on the first run and somehow managed to chain a Bloodsplosion halfway around the big circular bandit camp while doing the flag raising thing. I was rampaging and chucked an axe at a guy in the distance, it hit him in the head, and next thing I knew everything was exploding and I got like 30 kills in the span of a couple of seconds. Bloodsplosion is basically fantastic. My only regret is that I didn't manage to catch any of the damage numbers.
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Neo Helbeast posted:Speaking of which, I figured out how Bloodsplosion scales so quickly. Each Bloodlust stack gives an extra 5% damage to the explosion of Bloodsplosion which caps out at 500% then from there (Assuming melee is what kicked off the whole thing) it gets an extra 15% from strip the flesh because it gets a generic explosive damage. So it goes 1000-700% Melee +43% Melee Mod& 25% Melee Relic + 150K Love thumper + 500% explosion + 15% eplosion bonus= Help, all I can see is orange. Don't percentages accumulate by multiplicative instead of additive properties? If that's true this is just an even more intense stacking of effects.
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Speedboat Jones posted:Don't percentages accumulate by multiplicative instead of additive properties? If that's true this is just an even more intense stacking of effects. That's what I had originally thought but a Gearbox employee came out and said that Krieg didn't work that way and then didn't elaborate further. As far as my best guess goes this how I figure it works.
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Release The Beast is amazing, if you can keep getting damaged you can just keep chaining it. I find it hard to go back to non Krieg characters now 
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Geokinesis posted:Release The Beast is amazing, if you can keep getting damaged you can just keep chaining it. Throw your axe at your feet as Release the Beast ends to get it immediately again.
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Hellbeast - would you mind doing a mini write-up of your skilltree and the gear you're using for your insanity?
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Mania Empty the Rage 5 Feed the Meat 5 Strip the Flesh 5 Thrill of the Kill 3 Salt the Wound 5 Silence the Voices 5 Release the Beast 1 Bloodlust Blood Twitch 5 Blood Filled Guns 5 Blood Bath 5 Buzz Axe Bombardier 1 Fuel the Blood 5 Boiling Blood 5 Bloodsplosion 1 Gear Rapier Love Thumper (150K Roid) Diesel Sickle Class Mod (+6 Fuel the Blood, +5 Silence the voices) 43% Melee Damage Strength Relic 25% Melee damage
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It's sick, to be sure. I think I'm sticking with 1000000000000000000000 fire bursts tho. It fits with my play style of running into a giant mob of mobs and shooting them in the face.
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I'm assuming you stick to throwing the axe to avoid conking yourself in the head to death? Speaking of which can you trigger a bloodsplosion death nova if you kill youself with melee? It'd be pretty cool I think 
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