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Alikchi posted:The new technology system is so far superior to the old one it's unbelievable. Seriously. At first I was lukewarm towards it, but then I got one of those "philosopher found" events. Before this patch I would say yes if I had money to spare and no if not. I didn't even really care what the money was invested in, and certainly didn't look at the tech screen to check whether it made a difference. Now you get a pretty huge pile of research points you can then invest at your leisure. I've actually found myself considering which bonus to get right now a couple of times already. Also, in case anyone here is a sperglord min-maxer like me and keeps periodically checking the tech screen: you get a notification once you've accumulated enough points to invest in any tech of your choosing. So unless you're waiting for a specific, comparatively cheap tech advance, you can just ignore it altogether (basically like before, except you don't have to worry about inheritances changing your foci).
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Alikchi posted:The new technology system is so far superior to the old one it's unbelievable. It is, but it breaks apart hardcore if you give yourself a superpowered ruler with the designer. high learning + one of the research gives you a huge amount of rp.
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May 29, 2013 00:49
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Does the size of your raider army relate to how quickly they pillage gold, or is it a set amount? Also it seems the loot bar on owned provinces affects your tax income?
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May 29, 2013 01:00
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Unnnnnf waiting to get Old Gods 'til CK2+ gets updated come onnnnnnn Wiz
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DrPop posted:Unnnnnf waiting to get Old Gods 'til CK2+ gets updated come onnnnnnn Wiz Wiz on the Paradox forums posted:I am making a compatch, earliest in the weekend probably more realistically next weekend. You may be waiting a while, then. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 01:18 on May 29, 2013 |
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May 29, 2013 01:11
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So I'm installing the game and I was wondering with all the religious options is it possible to try and rule as a Jew?
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May 29, 2013 01:12
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gfanikf posted:So I'm installing the game and I was wondering with all the religious options is it possible to try and rule as a Jew?
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May 29, 2013 01:17
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gfanikf posted:So I'm installing the game and I was wondering with all the religious options is it possible to try and rule as a Jew? Nope, you'll have to wait for CK2+ like everyone else.
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May 29, 2013 01:18
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Baron Porkface posted:Is there a mod that lets you hear DLC music without the ingame factors? Okay, I believe this should do it. Actually had to change it a little because it wasn't working right before. Question for anyone who does modding, how do duplicate entries interact with each other? Originally I just had the .txt files in there normally without them set to replace the original files (ie without replace_path = "music" set), but I got some really weird results like that. Shouldn't entries in your mod's .txt files override the default ones entirely? Or is it more complicated than that?
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May 29, 2013 01:20
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I've played CKII from day one, but I don't think I've ever had as much pure, unadulterated fun as I did playing Jorvik. Raiding, concubines, blots, unique events, and steamrolling Anglo-Saxons all day long. Plus, I never realized just how cool gavelkind is. It's a real challenge to keep your realm together with a dozen sons, but it is quite an accomplishment. I imagine it gets less fun when it happens multiple times though. Anyway, ToG is definitely my favorite CKII expansion/DLC yet. I would criticize Paradox for being Scandinavia-centric, but they really made the viking experience great.
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May 29, 2013 01:56
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Has anyone else run into a problem where Norse men's faces and background keep changing? I thought it was kind of funny at first but it's getting difficult to remember which son/rival is which when they constantly rotate appearances.
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May 29, 2013 02:00
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I just ran around Scotland executing and sacrificing all the Earls and Petty Kings I could find. This is awesome 
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The CK2 thread is dead, long live the CK2 thread. Holy  5 pages already. Vikings really get goons motivated.Beard!
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May 29, 2013 02:16
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how do you get the ability to organize a raid/or just loot a province without taking it....I'm not trying to annex a rich province just grab some gold and leave
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May 29, 2013 02:30
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I wonder what they'll do next, since they're going to keep releasing DLC as long as people keep buying them.
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May 29, 2013 02:33
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Ymel posted:Seems like they forgot the Schism doesn't happen until 1054, there are no orthodox and catholics at 867! Apparently they realised this, but decided for gameplay reasons to have a divide earlier. They justify it by saying that while they were still technically together until the mid-11th C, they were pretty divided theologically speaking. It's a reasonable compromise considering the amount of work they would have needed to put into making it more realistic - Rome was at odds with Constantinople well before that, but I agree they should have done something with it, even if that was just a few events for flavour. I would hope that if they ever do a theocracy DLC (which I guess would likely be their last) they would address the Catholic/Orthodox issue a bit more alongside expanding papal elections etc. At any rate, I find it hard to complain given how much stuff has been added by the Old Gods. Also, has anyone been a little dull and played a standard Catholic ruler from the earliest startdate? While being a viking is great fun, I can imagine it would be very frustrating to have tons of them running all over your realm as Charles the Bald or whatever (historically accurate, if nothing else).
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RestRoomLiterature- posted:how do you get the ability to organize a raid/or just loot a province without taking it....I'm not trying to annex a rich province just grab some gold and leave Raise your levies, put them into a single army, and then in the leader management screen click the blue button that says "Make Looter". Then pick a province and make the weak fear you. quote:Also, has anyone been a little dull and played a standard Catholic ruler from the earliest startdate? While being a viking is great fun, I can imagine it would be very frustrating to have tons of them running all over your realm as Charles the Bald or whatever (historically accurate, if nothing else). I can't imagine how horrifying it would be to play a Catholic ruler in a Viking nation's sphere of interest because the Vikings are built to kick the poo poo out of everyone from day one.
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1stGear posted:I can't imagine how horrifying it would be to play a Catholic ruler in a Viking nation's sphere of interest because the Vikings are built to kick the poo poo out of everyone from day one. I'm gonna try out Alfred the Great once I'm done with my current game. Dude has frightening stats.
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Kainser posted:Gavelkind seems to be a lot more logical with the division of the inheritance now. It's pretty great. I don't know about that. In my Harald Fairhair game, my first son got exactly one non-capital county, while my second son got the three counties I had since the start of the game and had fully upgraded, including the capital.
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ThomasPaine posted:Apparently they realised this, but decided for gameplay reasons to have a divide earlier. They justify it by saying that while they were still technically together until the mid-11th C, they were pretty divided theologically speaking. It's a reasonable compromise considering the amount of work they would have needed to put into making it more realistic - Rome was at odds with Constantinople well before that, but I agree they should have done something with it, even if that was just a few events for flavour. I would hope that if they ever do a theocracy DLC (which I guess would likely be their last) they would address the Catholic/Orthodox issue a bit more alongside expanding papal elections etc. At any rate, I find it hard to complain given how much stuff has been added by the Old Gods. Once I get tired of being Vikings, which may be never, I want to give the Byzantines a go from the Old Gods start date. The weakener middle east and extra two hundred years will make it a lot easier to reform the Roman Empire and I guess you can even mend the schism before it technically even began.
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From playing in MP it seems like the old gods isnt very well balanced. The norse seems to get a poo poo ton of troops but all the other pagans get dick all. So all the Norse countries have well over 1000 troops and playing as a slavic pagan all I get is around 300 troops, not even enough to siege provinces.
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May 29, 2013 02:46
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 if only  .
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Cityinthesea posted:
I invited that girl to my court and she wasn't anything special. Just a mystic with low stats. I married her to some lower relative, and her son was like the second coming of Jesus. I have never seen so many green traits. Zero red ones.
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Oh man I bet Paradox are pissed right now. When I enable dlc in the new releases list it's hidden on page 2 because of a mountain of Aliens: Colonial Marines DLC 
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I wonder how moddable the conditions to allow a ruler to create raiding armies are. Whether it's only tied to religion. As vikings weren't the only pirates to terrorize Europe at this time, the period encompassed in the Old Gods, and epsecially the 10th and 11th centuries were high points for Muslim pirates in the Mediterranean, to the point that Italians as good as gave up living along the coast because of the pirates and began to fear (and tear down) Roman ruins because they were often used as strongholds by the pirates. Especially notable pirate strongholds were Sicily and Crete, and Tunis as well (especially as the place where people sold their captives into slavery). Ofcourse this would make life hell for catholics in the Mediterranean as well as by the Atlantic, though it would probably seriously weaken some of the Carolingian successor states, which would be a good thing.
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Demiurge4 posted:Oh man I bet Paradox are pissed right now. When I enable dlc in the new releases list it's hidden on page 2 because of a mountain of Aliens: Colonial Marines DLC 
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Kainser posted:I don't think they are to bothered really: Good point, this game is printing money.
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edit: ^^^^^^ Demiurge4 posted:Oh man I bet Paradox are pissed right now. When I enable dlc in the new releases list it's hidden on page 2 because of a mountain of Aliens: Colonial Marines DLC Can't be too pissed. It's at the top of the Top Sellers list.
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After so long with CK2+ playing as a TOG Viking is easy mode++. I would have to try to lose, everyone loves me, if I need cash I can literally just go and get it, ultrapowerful pagan CBs...
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Wingless posted:The CK2 thread is dead, long live the CK2 thread. Pillaging gets me all hot and bearded.
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This viking thing is pretty fun so far. I always thought that a good raiding and pillaging system was sorely need in this game right from the beginning. I've only played for like an hour so far but it's fun just happily sailing around looting everything. There seemed to be quite a lot of raiding going on when I was playing. I had Icelandic vikings come loot my rear end while I was away looting someone else. By the time I had troops organized they were gone. I hope they keep pumping out more DLC like this. Alikchi posted:After so long with CK2+ playing as a TOG Viking is easy mode++. I would have to try to lose, everyone loves me, if I need cash I can literally just go and get it, ultrapowerful pagan CBs... I wonder if it's only like this early on? This is supposed to start out right at the height of the viking age right? I figured the vikings are supposed to be really powerful at the start, but they get less and less money from looting as time goes on, as coastal provinces become more and more built up and fortified.
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To raid, do you need to organize an invasion? I can't seem to loot anything cause its always considered a friendly territory.
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JosefStalinator posted:To raid, do you need to organize an invasion? I can't seem to loot anything cause its always considered a friendly territory. I think you need to target people who are not of your religion. Weirdly enough, I have yet to play an extensive Viking game with The Old Gods! All today I've just been Khan-ing my way through Europe and having a merry old time while at it.
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JosefStalinator posted:To raid, do you need to organize an invasion? I can't seem to loot anything cause its always considered a friendly territory. And yeah, you can't do it to people with the same religion.
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DurosKlav posted:From playing in MP it seems like the old gods isnt very well balanced. The norse seems to get a poo poo ton of troops but all the other pagans get dick all. So all the Norse countries have well over 1000 troops and playing as a slavic pagan all I get is around 300 troops, not even enough to siege provinces. The beginning is a little rough, yes. I started with two counties in my demesne and one vassal county, and even when I was fighting only plucky little OPMs around me I would usually have to get mercenaries to actually lay siege after beating their army in the field. But it gets a lot more reasonable pretty quickly. I'd say it was about the first 2 or 3 wars that went like that, and there were starts like that in the 1066 start pre-patch/DLC, too, so I didn't mind it too much. This is not to say TOG is balanced. I'd be shocked if a Paradox game/patch/DLC was balanced right out the gate. 1stGear posted:I can't imagine how horrifying it would be to play a Catholic ruler in a Viking nation's sphere of interest because the Vikings are built to kick the poo poo out of everyone from day one. I'm not playing as a Catholic ruler (Sorbs -> Kingdom of Pomerania), but the one run-in with Vikings I've had was a little underwhelming, honestly. I got a warning that some Norse adventurer was eyeing my lands, then the king of Sweden declared war trying to subjugate me (i.e. take my kingdom title and make me his vassal), and then the adventurer joined in on the pile. The adventurer was a complete pushover, and Sweden was more than happy to take a white peace after I beat the armies they sent and took exactly one Swedish holding. I'm still wary, though. I've got two navigable rivers in my kingdom now, so if the AI got its poo poo together they could just roll over me.
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Just picked up old gods. Time to raid
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Anyone play the more defence-minded pagans yet, like the Romuvas or Suomenuskos?
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While I was waiting for my 1-year-old Queen to come of age I sailed off to the Mediterannean from Sweden for shits and giggles and kicked the poo poo out of basically everyone. Kicked around some minor Orthodox duchies on the Black Sea, raided my way up and down the coast of Africa, even sacked Rome. Pillaged some Byzantine holdings in Crimea and ran away as a couple of giant doomstacks made their way up the coast, and I refuse to believe they didn't say 'meep meep' before doing so. Nobody is safe. It's glorious. Created the merchant republic of Gotland a couple centuries early and they gave me 225 boats as levies 
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Kainser posted:And yeah, you can't do it to people with the same religion. Are you sure? I'm Norse, playing as Ivar the Boneless and I was raided by Norse vikings from Iceland when I was playing earlier.
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JosefStalinator posted:To raid, do you need to organize an invasion? I can't seem to loot anything cause its always considered a friendly territory. You just select the army you wish to send of looting and click "toogle looter" it should be in the top right of the army display when you select it (this has to be done in friendly territory). If the province you are raiding is neighboring a county you control directly the gold goes directly into your treasury, if it is a coastal province that does not border one of your counties, then you have to bring ships. By clicking on the fleet you can see how much loot it can carry off and how much it is currently carrying (automatically added by adjacent raiders), this shows up in the window that appears when you select your fleet.
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