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Playing as a viking is pretty easy but I can't stand Gavelkind at all. What's even better now is that my primary heir will get only the kingdom title while his brothers get all of the counties I've been upgrading.  I can't reform because I spent too much time fiddling around with raiding and not conquering so everyone else has jumped ahead.
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I have to say raiding and pillaging is pretty fun. Also concubines for maximum lineage production.
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Odobenidae posted:Playing as a viking is pretty easy but I can't stand Gavelkind at all. What's even better now is that my primary heir will get only the kingdom title while his brothers get all of the counties I've been upgrading. Well, it does give you an incentive to convert to Christianity, if taking the holy sites is out of the question and raiding has become too hard to be worthwile (because of forts). Plus it would allow you to holy war the hell out of your neighbors, though I guess they would raid you...
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May 29, 2013 03:39
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ThomasPaine posted:I would hope that if they ever do a theocracy DLC (which I guess would likely be their last) they would address the Catholic/Orthodox issue a bit more alongside expanding papal elections etc. Based on comments from Paradox devs I think we'll continue to get dlc for another year or two.
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May 29, 2013 03:43
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Found a bug. Pagan religions allow you to have women as chaplains (or 'seers' or whatever), but the events for the job still have the men_only line, so they don't actually do anything in that position. Easy to fix, but still, that's a bit of an oversight. I don't really know why they put even put those restrictions in the job events, anyway, since restricting who can get the title does the same thing without the potential for these kinds of errors.
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May 29, 2013 03:58
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Has anyone played the Aztecs? They're supposed to be playable, right?
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e: Windows 8 sucks and I am a moron.
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Ymel posted:Seems like they forgot the Schism doesn't happen until 1054, there are no orthodox and catholics at 867! This isn't really accurate, since the two halves had been drifting apart for a long time before that. The mutual excommunication makes for a nice line in history to point at, but really, the doctrinal differences set in once Rome was no longer part of the ERE and no longer had to listen to the Emperor in Constantinople. The Patriarchs there always insisted that the 5 great Christian leaders (Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem) had to agree on doctrinal differences, whereas the Pope in Rome claimed the sole authority to decide, so we start seeing differences in major matters pretty early; priests allowed to marry in the east, various theological and liturgical differences that make my eyes glaze over when I hear them, and so forth. In addition to that, they were really concerned with different matters most of the time; the Pope was concerned about getting a powerful temporal protector (and then staying out from under his thumb) and dealing with bizarre politics in the city of Rome, while the Patriarch was involved in imperial politics and the theological disputes that rocked the ERE, like iconoclasm and legitimacy of divorce and suchlike. So theologically, they were starting to diverge pretty early, even if they hadn't developed the concept of "Orthodox" and "Catholic", there was still a notion that the "Latin Rite" and the "Greek Rite" were different things, and from a real-world, practical sort of viewpoint, they were both concerned with different things, having different real-world effects that would have real gameplay differences, which would encourage them to be as separate entities from about ~600 onwards. Speaking of all that, during the 900s the Papacy was real mess. Gibbon, I believe, called it the "pornocracy", because it made the Borgia popes look like the crusader popes. Is there a gameplay difference in religion to reflect that? Can you "reform" Catholicism? Haven't had a chance to crack open the new DLC yet, maybe once the kid goes to bed.
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May 29, 2013 04:18
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Can you only use the Subjugation CB against other King-level pagans? I'd like to subjugate the ruler of Wessex and complete my control of England in one go but it seems it's not to be. Also, I wish prepared invasions didn't phase out abruptly at 40 realm holdings, they're a really cool feature.
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May 29, 2013 04:20
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I don't know if this has been posted yet... but I just died laughing listening to this review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ZkO8CclhI
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May 29, 2013 04:33
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Would you guys say Old Gods is worth it on the same level as The Republic/Sword of Islam/Aztec Invasion etc?
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May 29, 2013 04:40
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I asked this in the last thread but didn't get an answer. Why do I (Queen of Sicily and Serbia) have family trade zones now? Is this because I made a kinsman a Grand Mayor?
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I noticed a few other odd things - I can't built training grounds or housecarl training ground even if I build Castle Walls, which is what the red X is indicating the problem is, but on holdings that started with Castle Walls I can build them fine. And every upgrade just has [Improvement Name] I, II, III, IV etc instead of different names for each level - maybe I've just been spoiled by CK2+ but I could have sworn that different levels of improvements had different names and flavour text for each level in vanilla. Is this happening to you guys as well, or is it just my weirdly-bugged version? EDIT: As it turns out the contents of the Paradox Interactive folder in My Documents has an effect on checksum. Tehan fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 29, 2013 |
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May 29, 2013 04:47
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SkySteak posted:Would you guys say Old Gods is worth it on the same level as The Republic/Sword of Islam/Aztec Invasion etc? Based soley on how much fun I've had with this one this afternoon compared to previous ones, I'd say it goes along these lines: The Old Gods >>>> The Republic > Sword of Islam > Legacy of Rome.
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So I've taken advantage of the post release sales to catch up on old DLC. I remember a post in the old thread talking about how to prune the family tree in a Republic, but I don't remember the details. The Matrilineal marriage button seems to have vanished, so I don't know how to get rid of all these worthless fuckers taking all my money short of spending all my money on assassins.
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GoatLord posted:So I've taken advantage of the post release sales to catch up on old DLC. I remember a post in the old thread talking about how to prune the family tree in a Republic, but I don't remember the details. The Matrilineal marriage button seems to have vanished, so I don't know how to get rid of all these worthless fuckers taking all my money short of spending all my money on assassins. As of a recent patch only family members in your court contribute to max trade posts and take a slice out of your profits, so landing and banishing people will get them out of your hair.
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May 29, 2013 04:52
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Tehan posted:As of a recent patch only family members in your court contribute to max trade posts and take a slice out of your profits, so landing and banishing people will get them out of your hair. Any way that won't completely tank my vassal relations for unjustly banishing every male in the family older than The Genius?
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GoatLord posted:Any way that won't completely tank my vassal relations for unjustly banishing every male in the family older than The Genius? Can you make them bishops?
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I hold one county, and an extra city besides. Even if I didn't have Papal Investiture I could only make one bishop.
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May 29, 2013 05:12
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If you're a merchant republic you should have a million billion gold to spend on mercenaries, plus you have a CB on any coastal city where you have a trade post. You are building trade posts, right?
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May 29, 2013 05:17
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I was looking through the various title histories and I'm finding it pretty neat that The Papacy starts with Peter and the Byzantine's start with Augustus.
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May 29, 2013 05:20
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I never knew pillaging the countryside then sacrificing your hated enemy's oldest son could be so satisfying. All I need now is a bloody eagle option.
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May 29, 2013 05:21
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Oh Paradox   Click for big.
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Tehan posted:If you're a merchant republic you should have a million billion gold to spend on mercenaries, plus you have a CB on any coastal city where you have a trade post. I have a ton of trade posts, all over the HRE and the Byzantine Empire turned Fatamid Sultanate.  The final version of CK2+ can't come soon enough.
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Started as the Boneless, managed to get the Kingdoms of Ireland and Scotland. At the ripe age of 80 I died and my kinslayer son, who I had in prison for half a decade, took over. Didn't last a year before a plot by his nephew came to fruition. Knowing that he wouldn't win the civil war, abdicated to the nephew. The very first thing the (AI) nephew did was conquer Norway. The AI doubled the size of my old realm in a year. Old Gods is pretty good. Of course, Tengri Hungary is a goddamn monster.
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Trip report: game loving owns. Started out as Halfdan Whiteshirt, made heaps of money and prestige from raiding and sacrifices, then my realm imploded due to the forced gavelkind and Mercia pounced on me. Besides reforming the faith or murdering my younger children or going to war with my brothers, is there a good way around this?
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May 29, 2013 05:38
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Ivar the Boneless is a seriously funny name. I can just imagine him flopping around on his longboat while raiding the poo poo out of Europe.
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toasterwarrior posted:The Republic DLC, unfortunately, only unlocks Trade Republics like Venice, Genoa, Pisa, etc. You'll know them by the presence of Patricians within the realm, and of course, their capital being on a coast for access to ships. Everything else is considered a "peasant" republic and cannot be played. If you win a crusade as a patrician you can definitely become a new republic, that was my first republic game as the Most Serene Republic of Jerusalem. More to the point I think you can split off as a new republic, but all trade republics MUST be Duke level or higher. If you are just a count, or any republic loses their last duke title, they are game overed. You can also gently caress with console commands or make a mod to make a new republic where you want, just again it would need to be duchy level or higher. Spirit Tree fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 29, 2013 |
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Odd. It looks like (?) you're supposed to be able to capture leaders hiding out in their capital by sacking it, based on the line "is_ruler = yes" in the imprisoning trigger. But even when I turn the chance of a 'nothing happens' to zero, it doesn't capture rulers.ChikoDemono posted:Of course, Tengri Hungary is a goddamn monster.
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May 29, 2013 05:48
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I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but there's a 75% discount on the game bundle (including all DLCs) right now on steam
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May 29, 2013 05:53
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Fail posted:I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but there's a 75% discount on the game bundle (including all DLCs) right now on steam
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May 29, 2013 05:56
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You can buy the entire collection (not Old Gods) for 14.99 from Amazon.
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May 29, 2013 06:05
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 To be fair nether of us were super excited about living together.
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Can your heirs invite themselves into other courts somehow? My heir ended up in the court of his now deceased little brother in some worthless backwater county and I can't invite him back. Now I've lost control of the marriages for all his kids, I can't appoint him to a bisphoric since he isn't in my court, and I don't have the option to plot to assassinate him. His other little brother is a genius and still in my court, I want him to inherit. What can I do??
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Well, raiding is fun and the new norse portraits look great, but I'm 20 years after the start date now and all of france, germany and italy are united (into a country that can't decide on its name), sweden and denmark are united, and britain is united under jorvik, none of which I had anything to do with. Are these countries actually going to collapse at some point, because there's like 500 years left in the game and I want something to happen other than too big to fail countries crushing tiny rebellions.
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I had an interesting bug as King of Scotland. I did the old piss off your vassal until he rebels trick to get the duke of Murray in prison. I proceeded to banish him and take the tyranny hit because it is only a matter of time before Lothian decides to back a usurper no matter how high I have their opinion of me. But what is this? The Duke of Murray is not actually gone from my kingdom and is the Earl of Murray county. It ended up working out since arresting and giving him a second banishment drove Buchanan and Atholl to rebel whom I crushed with the mighty army of Lothian. The second best part of this game so far is that during the war against the Buchanan and Atholl, Strathearn decides to back my brother for king. As I am about to take the second holding in Atholl, Lothian joins in on the faction so I know I don't have long. The claim is pressed just a day or two after I capture the second holding and I have to give up the kingdom, but before I do I check with the earls I am currently stomping and, miracle of miracles, they are ready to surrender and go to the dungeon. I banish the earl of Buchanon as my last act as regent and 5 days later after the earl of Atholl finally gets in my dungeon I execute him. That is the tale of how I turned the lovely king of Scotland start into a 4 county demense in northern Scotland. Now to make my plans to make new plans. Fake update: 2nd bug, after losing the title of king I got to keep my ex-vassals' armies, so now I have 3500 men, totally cost free, and can keep them around until I want to declare war. As of right now I am using them to help Argyll's independence war.
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Hammy posted:Can your heirs invite themselves into other courts somehow? My heir ended up in the court of his now deceased little brother in some worthless backwater county and I can't invite him back. Now I've lost control of the marriages for all his kids, I can't appoint him to a bisphoric since he isn't in my court, and I don't have the option to plot to assassinate him. His other little brother is a genius and still in my court, I want him to inherit. What can I do?? I ran into the same problem - my heir is somewhere in the British isles and I have no way to lure him back so I can set him up a proper marriage. Come back, son, I'll give you Norwegian maidens and Saxon concubines! This DLC owns so hard. Can anybody recommend a Viking-appropriate Pandora station, maybe some metal?  
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Magical Zero posted:Ivar the Boneless is a seriously funny name. I can just imagine him flopping around on his longboat while raiding the poo poo out of Europe. Best part is that nobody even knows where the nickname came from, although some believe it might refer to impotence. Or brittle bone disease, but that seems unlikely.
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Nckdictator posted:I was looking through the various title histories and I'm finding it pretty neat that The Papacy starts with Peter and the Byzantine's start with Augustus. If you trace his lineage back you can also find Muhammad, who has a unique portrait (his name, since in Islam you're not supposed to depict his image).
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