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So I finally got enough magic mirrors to beat the Six's sister. Now I'm off to the next boss fight after that and its hard as poo poo. How do I beat this Umbrella woman? Nvm figured it out. Just used mirrors again. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 08:06 on May 28, 2013 |
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Genpei Turtle posted:So for anyone else playing SMTIV, do you have any strategies for making money? I rarely if ever buy anything, and it always seems like I'm perpetually penniless. Grinding for artifacts is tedious and selling a bunch of LAN cables and blood pressure gauges for 50 Makka apiece doesn't do much when equipment and Compendium summons costs thousands of Makka each. I'm almost tempted to sell off my nifty Demonica suit for the cash since it's worth so much. Apparently the Ara Mitama in the DLC drop items that can be sold for a ton of cash. So... there's that, but I could certainly understand not wanting to go that route. It's not unexpected given the success of Fire Emblem Awakening's DLC.
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May 28, 2013 05:02
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TurnipFritter posted:Apparently the Ara Mitama in the DLC drop items that can be sold for a ton of cash. So... there's that, but I could certainly understand not wanting to go that route. It's not unexpected given the success of Fire Emblem Awakening's DLC. They do sell for a reasonable amount, but they're fairly rare drops and are far more useful on their own--they immediately level-up whatever you use them on. On a side note, the item DLC is a ripoff but that particular DLC is amazing. It's an unabashed grinding area, but it's fantastic for rapidly leveling-up your demons so they can learn all their skills. (I suppose you could use the items you get there on yourself, but that would destroy all semblance of balance in the game) Plus its BGM is a really well-done remix of the Nocturne hospital theme.
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May 28, 2013 14:08
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The patch for the European version of Devil Survivor Overclocked is finally out.
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May 28, 2013 15:19
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Belan posted:The patch for the European version of Devil Survivor Overclocked is finally out. I wonder how long it will take before we hear that the patch broke something else.
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May 28, 2013 16:30
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Ohtsam posted:I wonder how long it will take before we hear that the patch broke something else. SOLVED: Summoning no longer freezes the game TODO: Fusing demons should not erase saved games
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May 28, 2013 16:53
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DeathBySpoon posted:TODO: Fusing demons should not erase saved games Jesus how do you gently caress up existing code that badly? 
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May 28, 2013 17:05
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DeathBySpoon posted:SOLVED: Summoning no longer freezes the game Tell me you're joking.
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May 28, 2013 18:06
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That was a joke. Summoning is such a basic feature in an SMT game that the only thing I could think of that would be MORE of a screw up would be fusion.
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May 28, 2013 18:16
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Downloading all 16 blocks of it now! And done. I can confirm that the game no longer freezes when I select Summon and everybody's names appear correctly! Well done Ghostlight...
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May 28, 2013 18:27
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Genpei Turtle posted:They do sell for a reasonable amount, but they're fairly rare drops and are far more useful on their own--they immediately level-up whatever you use them on. Apparently in addition to the leveling manuals, you can also get golden [spoilers]jets/bulldozers/death masks[/spoiler] that exists specifically to be sold off for money.
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May 28, 2013 18:40
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Mailer posted:Nocturne was super enjoyable for me and I never got why people said it was so horribly difficult. I guess maybe if it's your first SMT game and you're going in completely blind and you're refusing to look at any sort of guide or demon chart... yeah, that would suck. Is it just that the game is "inaccessible" and people die once to Matador before abandoning it? I guess maybe it wasn't so much the difficulty, it was more that I got through Matador and a bunch of hard bosses, but the dungeons go so extremely long between saves that a death just made it impossible for me to keep dumping more and more time into the game.
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May 28, 2013 18:47
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Does anybody know if SMT4 will be on the eShop?
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May 28, 2013 19:26
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Does anybody know if SMT4 will be on the eShop? Yes it will be.
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May 28, 2013 19:35
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TurnipFritter posted:Apparently in addition to the leveling manuals, you can also get golden jets/bulldozers/death masks that exists specifically to be sold off for money. Oh! Time to go back into DLC-land then. Funny, for all the time I've spent in there I've never gotten one of those. They must be pretty rare.
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May 28, 2013 21:37
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Is there a non- way to play the PS2 entries other than Persona 3 and 4? Just finishing up P4G and looking to  on some sweet Atlus JRPG goodness...but I don't have a PS2 or a 3DS =/
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May 29, 2013 02:11
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Captain Walker posted:Is there a non- Emulate or buy a cheapass PS2.
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May 29, 2013 02:26
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Yeah PS2s are like 40 bucks or under these days, they're ridiculously cheap.
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May 29, 2013 02:27
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Is Soul Hackers suppose to include a lot of grinding? It seems that every big dungeon I beat I have to grind to get more powerful demons. Also how do I make my demons not hate me? As in make them not hate me more until they leave my party.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is Soul Hackers suppose to include a lot of grinding? It seems that every big dungeon I beat I have to grind to get more powerful demons. Also how do I make my demons not hate me? As in make them not hate me more until they leave my party. You really don't need to grind at all. The only characters who benefit from it are the protagonist and Nemissa and Nemissa should be able to nuke everyone as long as you've invested in magic. What makes demon loyalty increase depends on their personality. Make sure to issue them orders that follow this. Wild demons like to physically attack. Sly demons like to cast offensive spells. Calm demons like being told to do what they think they have to do. So if a demon thinks healing is necessary, ordering it to heal will increase their loyalty. This takes a bit of getting used to and occasionally guesswork. Kind demons like guarding, healing and buffing. Dumb demons like being ordered to Go/dislike being given specific orders. Certain items will also increase their loyalty levels and this is generally the easiest way to max out Calm and Sly demons. The other easiest way is to buy the Sake that makes them Kind and then have them Guard in every battle. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 29, 2013 |
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No, you shouldn't be needing to grind really in Soul Hackers. Just make sure you're always fusing new demons since they can't level. Are you using attacks according to their personality? If you don't have maximum loyalty with them, any time you use a command that's not favored by them, they may disobey you. If that happens, their loyalty to you will decrease. Kind demons want to heal people or guard, wild demons want to use normal attacks, and dumb demons want it to be left up to them. Sly demons want magical attacks, and I'm honestly not sure what gets you loyalty with calm demons. You can change a demon's personality temporarily by getting them drunk with sake. I always changed sly/calm demons personalities into wild in order to increase their loyalty. If you're fusing max loyalty demons together, the new demon will result with maxed loyalty as well, making it so you don't have to worry about it.
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Oh poo poo, didn't know that demon type thing affected their loyalty.
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Some quick thoughts after getting the "Liberator" ending in DS2: -Overall, much easier than DS1 in that almost every map was straightforward. Barely any escort missions. It felt like they tried to adjust the difficulty by making everything seemingly hit a lot harder (both you and the enemies) to varying degrees of success. -I never really cared for the plot in DS1 so Atlus Presents Evangelion was just fine. That said, the last boss was kind of disappointing. -Holy Dance is still god drat broken. -Jungo is the best Devil Survivor character. Onto NG+.
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Nate RFB posted:Some quick thoughts after getting the "Liberator" ending in DS2: In what way? From a plot perspective? Or difficulty? Because Polaris's final form is a loving rear end in a top hat (drat multi-strike arm  )
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A question regarding Lucifer in SMTIV (Spoilered just incase I guess, although it's not story related) I've seen some pictures floating around, and is he really some alien blue dude? I really don't like the new guy's art and think it looks awful but a weird bald blue slenderman thing for Lucifer just kind of is a level beyond awful, please tell me that's not actually him  The form for the fight posted looked even worse too.
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King of Solomon posted:In what way? From a plot perspective? Or difficulty? Because Polaris's final form is a loving rear end in a top hat (drat multi-strike arm He probably meant difficulty because he had Jungo with Evil Flow and stuff. Really the Polaris fight is "do you have Evil Flow Y/N"
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King of Solomon posted:Or difficulty? Because Polaris's final form is a loving rear end in a top hat (drat multi-strike arm Probably the difficulty; the entire build-up to it had some difficult moments Lugh-form Io and everything related to Yamato especially but the first time through I finished that fight before I got attacked. 
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alcharagia posted:He probably meant difficulty because he had Jungo with Evil Flow and stuff. I guess I just didn't kill him fast enough, because I got completely hosed up by that multi-strike arm.
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King of Solomon posted:In what way? From a plot perspective? Or difficulty? Because Polaris's final form is a loving rear end in a top hat (drat multi-strike arm Actually that's another thing that felt easier this time around; in DS1 running out of MP was a huge concern. This time around I never came close to running out in the last few days. I guess because everything (yourself included) dies a lot faster.
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Nate RFB posted:Oh I just thought it was really silly in a game where the big bads are these eldritch abominations that speak a bizarre hieroglyphic language, and then the biggest bad of all is the Master Control Program from Tron, complete with a "This cannot be!" cry when you kill him. The actual fight was fairly hard because two of my Pythons had depleted their MP, but I made do. Yeah, that's kinda what I was expecting. From a plot perspective it's really, really silly (like pretty much everything else in the game.)
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Ibram Gaunt posted:A question regarding Lucifer in SMTIV (Spoilered just incase I guess, although it's not story related) I've seen some pictures floating around, and is he really some alien blue dude? I really don't like the new guy's art and think it looks awful but a weird bald blue slenderman thing for Lucifer just kind of is a level beyond awful, please tell me that's not actually him Yes, it's him. Much like the Archangels, I was getting sick of Kaneko's old Lucifer/Helel designs and was hoping to see new ones in SMT4, but not like this. Not like this. Truly I have wished upon a monkey's paw.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:A question regarding Lucifer in SMTIV (Spoilered just incase I guess, although it's not story related) I've seen some pictures floating around, and is he really some alien blue dude? I really don't like the new guy's art and think it looks awful but a weird bald blue slenderman thing for Lucifer just kind of is a level beyond awful, please tell me that's not actually him Don't get your hopes up. SMTIV is a good game, but the new designs really are poo poo. I laughed out loud when I first saw Medusa because it looked like it was ripped straight out of someone's DeviantArt account. I haven't gotten far enough to see what Lucifer looks like but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he looks absolutely terrible.
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What!? Admittedly, I thought some of the new Kamen Rider-ish designs were cool, but they can't change Lucifer. Not like that at least.
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Snix posted:What!? Admittedly, I thought some of the new Kamen Rider-ish designs were cool, but they can't change Lucifer. Not like that at least. Most of the new designs aren't really Kamen Rider-ish. They range from unremarkable to downright horrible. None I would describe as "good." Some of them are just nonsensical--you know Centaur, the man/horse hybrid everyone's familiar with? Now he's some bizarre double-headed bipedal horse with wings. Minotaur looks like a minotaur but for some reason he's got a human skull embedded in his nose with the eye sockets acting as his nostrils. The good news is that the majority of the designs are still Kaneko's, which while old and boring by this point, are leagues better than the new ones. The new designs seem largely restricted to especially important demons and bosses, though there are a few grunts with new designs mixed in. And I would love to hear the reasoning for turning Dullahan into a woman, because without spoiling too much, it actively makes the story at one point weird as hell.
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Genpei Turtle posted:And I would love to hear the reasoning for turning Dullahan into a woman, because without spoiling too much, it actively makes the story at one point weird as hell. Dallahans are not mythologically just male. There are Dullahan stories which explicitly involve a woman Dullahan. I mostly remember because the story I recall basically has a kinda-misogynistic "well, if she doesn't have a head, at least she can't nag me" ending. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:20 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 02:17
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TurnipFritter posted:Truly I have wished upon a monkey's paw. What else should you expect from a wish in a SMT game?  Some of the new designs are super cool though, Minotaur is neat, and a lot of the later game bosses have really unique designs, I think.
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Why the gently caress do they not give you the option to skip cutscenes in Soul Hackers? I'm right before the boss fight in Algon Microelectronics Factory and god drat does it suck have to wait through five minutes of cutscenes before I can actually fight. The video is the worst part since you can't skip it at all! EDIT - Finally beat him but gently caress how annoying. Same wit this magnetite poo poo WTF! I keep running out! I wish it was more like SMT2 where it was only punished if abused. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 03:37
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It's like a flashback to the 90s RPGs! Seriously, I hated that section too.
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ImpAtom posted:Dallahans are not mythologically just male. There are Dullahan stories which explicitly involve a woman Dullahan. I mostly remember because the story I recall basically has a kinda-misogynistic "well, if she doesn't have a head, at least she can't nag me" ending. Yeah, I know, I just phrased that badly. I don't know he opted to design the Dullahan in the game as a woman. It's hard to explain without spoiling things, but it turns what would have been a "oh OK, that explains things" moment into an "OK, that's weird/kinda creepy" moment.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why the gently caress do they not give you the option to skip cutscenes in Soul Hackers? I'm right before the boss fight in Algon Microelectronics Factory and god drat does it suck have to wait through five minutes of cutscenes before I can actually fight. The video is the worst part since you can't skip it at all! Think of it as a blast from the past!  (But yeah, long unskippable cutscenes suck. I've had to go through the dream parts of SMT1 like 3 times and it basically takes the controller out of your hands for like 5 minutes while you input names and stuff. )
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