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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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Install Gentoo posted:

usually the cable company will just kill off analog entirely and issue digital cable boxes. bit odd of them to encrypt the analog channels first tho.

all analog is dead, every cableco is required to be all-digital now and offer a free lovely set top box for people that don't want better than basic cable

last year fcc said "gently caress it, encrypt it all what could go bad about that?!"

and because it's encrypted 100% that means you HAVE to have a cablecard to get any channel once the system is put in place further locking you into comcast's craptastic set top boxes unless you do something like a ceton, hd homerun prime or tivo

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
digital stuff has been encrypted for a while now. like years and years. its not new

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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until the fcc ruled last year it was illegal for telco to encrypt basic cable and all local channels had to be provided 100% unencrypted free of charge

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
they've always offered local channels unencrypted. analog cable is going away and being replaced by digital which has been encrypted for years. there isn't really any problem here.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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no, digital cable is not encrypted and they moved a long rear end time ago


that's why if you had old rear end boxes you kept seeing commercials for a set top box you HAD to have to get cable

it's just an atsc tuner, the same thing in the back of your hdtv


atsc does not have to be encrypted


the only thing encrypted are premium channels above 99 because before it was illegal to encrypt 1-99


shagger quit being wrong about things gosh

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
twc has been encrypting everything on digital cable beyond broadcast for like the last 7-8 years. now idk if this was ok because analog cable also existed at the same time or what, but I definitely could not pull unencrypted channels out of the box outside of broadcast when I tried. this was a real docsis cable box tho, not an atsc tuner translating to analog cable. also now days they're much more complex than that and contain onboard switched digital tuners (you know, like that thing you need to hook ur prime up to). even if they decided to send the channels unencrypted (they wont) the tuner in your tv would be useless because it cant do switched digital.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






eh youll still be able to record things once decrypted piracy is saved

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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Shaggar posted:

twc has been encrypting everything on digital cable beyond broadcast for like the last 7-8 years. now idk if this was ok because analog cable also existed at the same time or what, but I definitely could not pull unencrypted channels out of the box outside of broadcast when I tried. this was a real docsis cable box tho, not an atsc tuner translating to analog cable. also now days they're much more complex than that and contain onboard switched digital tuners (you know, like that thing you need to hook ur prime up to). even if they decided to send the channels unencrypted (they wont) the tuner in your tv would be useless because it cant do switched digital.

there is no way they were encrypting all channels

it was illegal to encrypt basic cable until last year

basic meaning local i.e local fox,nbc,abc affiliates, pbs, etc stuff that you can get FTA

however these all went DIGITAL which required the atsc tuner

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
fox, nbc, abc, etc.. are broadcast, not basic cable. yes those were not encrypted.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
altho yeah if they're encrypting broadcast channels that's weird and dumb.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

its not weird and dumb from the cableco view because they can force everyone to get a cable box and then start charging for it as is happening to pagancow. most cablehavers dont realize that ota broadcasts are hd now and some will start paying to preserve their "superior cable experience" its not like local broadcasters put out advertisements to get people to buy rabbit ears. if youve ever wondered what rent-seeking is this is a textbook example

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

Shaggar posted:

altho yeah if they're encrypting broadcast channels that's weird and dumb.

Yes. Its what they are doing

I only paid for basic cable because it was more reliable than bunny ears for me to watch PBS

Now they are encrypting it and giving me a box for 2 years that I will have to pay for after that.

its dumb

I bet it's a way to squeeze the 17mbps Mpeg-2 into like 8 to make more room for other stuff.

basically YVCPOS bithc

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

also irony alert, the rich man's channel doesn't cost anything because he made the people pay for it lol owned

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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i hate how telco/radio does encoding

sirius downgraded a lot of their less-popular channels to add more poo poo in and on the edm channels it sounds like 128kbps mp3s now

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
i was housesitting for a friend who had some insane cable package with ~1500 channels and there was nothing on it was all timeshifted 'the view' and ppv porn and the picture looked like garbage and there were multiple levels of black bars on the sides and bottom and everywhere and it was really bad i ended up just watching youtubes and downloaded tv anyway

welp thats my story watch 420 pbs on rabbit ears e'ryday hail satan :tipshat:

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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the extra-lovely thing comcast is doing though is when it went all digital it forced consumers to get those atsc boxes


these were given "free" for 2 years


now with this change they're charging these people for the new boxes


my sister was bitching about how comcast was forcing new boxes that cost money and i was all confused until pagencow bitched today

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




build your own antenna with this one weird trick made by a single mom!

cable companies hate her!

http://uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.ca/

$15 worth of material, only one of which (the coax adapter) was sorta-hard to find. Best goddamn thing I ever did.

I can even get the U.S. broadcast of the Super Bowl and see all the Super Bowl commercials you guys keep raving about.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

univbee posted:

I can even get the U.S. broadcast of the Super Bowl and see all the Super Bowl commercials you guys keep raving about.

:ohdear: oh no now all of those poor starving canadian programmes will fail because they cannot compete against :911: :black101: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SUPER BOWL XXXXL FOOTBALL :black101: :911:

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

:black101: UNITED SATANS OF AMERICA :black101:

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

poor starving canadian pograms

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


let me just say, as a mac user i really enjoy interlaced vc-1 files


:shepicide:

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
is it just me or did VC-1 have a pretty nice compression artifact structure compared to x264?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






longview posted:

is it just me or did VC-1 have a pretty nice compression artifact structure compared to x264?

its u

stop watching lovely scene rips

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

let me just say, as a mac user i really enjoy interlaced vc-1 files


:shepicide:

lol does interlaced VC-1 even work in flip4mac?

lol if u use vlc because that poo poo doesn't even TV-->RGB level convert right.

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

just did a 400 swatch calibration on a 6-bit $120 asus TN panel with an i1 display pro.

it looks a lot better.

it allows you to select "white LED" as the backlight type and it knows what to do. amazing.

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

i basically just ls1 dropped a miata in monitor calibration terms

:rice:

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I'd like a calibration tool like that but the good ones end up costin more than the monitor I want calibrated.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
those weird blue THX glasses work ok for non-spergy work and they're like $5

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

pagancow posted:

i basically just ls1 dropped a miata in monitor calibration terms

:rice:

dam bro that is sick as all hell. totally fukin sick.

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Quine Connoisseur posted:

those weird blue THX glasses work ok for non-spergy work and they're like $5

That sounds nothing like those automatic calibration devices.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






time to get dat 27" corean ips

and have it break within the year

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
are spyders any good? do they atually improve color accuracy?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

A Yolo Wizard posted:

That sounds nothing like those automatic calibration devices.

its this thing

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/thx-optimizer/

it works ok for what it is i guess

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008







i ahve a couple of dvds with that pos on it

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






its too much effort just get a spyder push a few buttons and it does it for you

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

spankmeister posted:

time to get dat 27" corean ips

and have it break within the year

I think im gonna get the monoprice version

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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spankmeister posted:

its too much effort just get a spyder push a few buttons and it does it for you

more like google avs forums furiously until you come across calibrated settings for your panel because super :effort:

jooky
Jan 15, 2003

I skipped 500+ posts itt. how is it still on topic?

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

pagancow likes codecs?

do you even encode?

granny codec using not double pass encoding like you should.

YVCPOS is not the "close enough" forum

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pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

flyboi posted:

more like google avs forums furiously until you come across calibrated settings for your panel because super :effort:

YVCPOS is not the "close enough" forum

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