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Lord Seo posted:I'm not opposed to monarchy, as much as I am opposed to a foreign monarchy, what we should really do is get the Queen to hand over the Queen/King of Canada title to either a decent relative willing to become Canadian, or whichever Canuck she deems good enough. Basically replace the GG with a distinctly Canadian monarchy, that way it's (somewhat) less connected to Imperial British heritage, while still satisfying all the Canadians that insist we need the monarchy because it makes us different than the Americans. Appoint a French-Canadian monarch and watch English Canada eat itself alive.
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Imperator Justinium Trudeaux, First of His Name. Ave!
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May 31, 2013 23:00
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I'd unironically be 100% down and supportive for Queen Michaëlle Jean
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May 31, 2013 23:08
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vyelkin posted:Appoint a French-Canadian monarch and watch English Canada eat itself alive. Yeah, just like how English Canada went nuts when Francophone Laurier became the prime minister. Except that didn't happen.
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May 31, 2013 23:12
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Sovy Kurosei posted:Yeah, just like how English Canada went nuts when Francophone Laurier became the prime minister. Are you for real.
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May 31, 2013 23:18
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vyelkin posted:Appoint a French-Canadian monarch and watch English Canada eat itself alive. Sovy Kurosei posted:Yeah, just like how English Canada went nuts when Francophone Laurier became the prime minister. Funkdreamer fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 31, 2013 |
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May 31, 2013 23:32
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Imperator Justinium Trudeaux, First of His Name. Would unironically rather have this than him as PM. From each according to his ability and all that.
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May 31, 2013 23:37
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Imperator Justinium Trudeaux, First of His Name. The big upside to Trudeau as leader in 2015 is the possibility of Warhammer 40k style Trudeau fan art.
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May 31, 2013 23:41
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Man all I wanted was a silly picture of liz in the op 
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May 31, 2013 23:50
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THC posted:Man all I wanted was a silly picture of liz in the op They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Oh, I get that. But if we rewrote the constitution to not require the monarch? This is where it was sticky, because he would reply about the Divine Power of God or whatever. This guy was hyperconservative and got really excited for Dominion Day, for instance. I still think "The Dominion of Canada" is a pretty sweet name for a country, beats the poo poo out of the sort of 70's branding we're currently working with. Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Or just throw more illustrations of hockey and oil derricks on there, whichever, nobody gives a gently caress *hops in a jacuzzi filled with crude oil, drinks gasoline from a flute made of Canadian diamonds, towels off with a Flames jersey* That lady looking at a microscope looks too Asian!
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May 31, 2013 23:54
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angerbot posted:That lady looking at a microscope looks too Asian! Quick, make her neutral ethnicity (white)!
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BGrifter posted:The big upside to Trudeau as leader in 2015 is the possibility of Warhammer 40k style Trudeau fan art. You have no idea how disappointed I am the two pretty-boy Primarchs do not wear red  Hey, bunnyofdoom, can you put forward a motion at the next Liberal Party meeting to change the colours to either purple or gold? I'd appreciate it to save myself some colour-masking time in photoshop a couple years down the road, thanks. angerbot posted:I still think "The Dominion of Canada" is a pretty sweet name for a country I suspect our bureaucrats would have issues with that branding. 
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May 31, 2013 23:56
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vyelkin posted:Quick, make her neutral ethnicity (white)! Still can't believe people cared about that. Well, I can, but it makes me really sad.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I suspect our bureaucrats would have issues with that branding. Weyoun is like a slightly less slimey and more articulate alien version of Pierre Poulivere.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:You have no idea how disappointed I am the two pretty-boy Primarchs do not wear red Dude. Sanguinius! Described as the prettiest of the pretty boy Primarchs.
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Jun 1, 2013 00:13
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Sanguinius wears gold. Only common Blood Angels wear red. Don't you know anything 
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Jun 1, 2013 00:23
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Gf says Twitter comments the Globe and Mail has made a whack of people redundant today. She mentioned a whack of names I didn't recognize.
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Jun 1, 2013 02:35
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Good. gently caress that paper and their loving paywall and margaret wente and leah mclaren.
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Jun 1, 2013 02:50
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aw man they sacked Michael Kesterton.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I suspect our bureaucrats would have issues with that branding. No Conservative has ever harmed another.
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Cultural Imperial posted:aw man they sacked Michael Kesterton. What the gently caress... and Wente still has a job? The Globe really has gone down hill fast. I picked up a copy a week or so ago and they had this entire editorial about how the rich shouldn't be taxed more because, get this, the laffer curve says it's a bad idea. The loving Laffer curve.  Then it degenerated into Reagan tax cut fellatio.I don't think I'll be making that mistake again.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:Still can't believe people cared about that. Well, I can, but it makes me really sad.
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Speaking of taxing the rich, the recent Munk debate on that topic is viewable for free this weekend. It was nothing amazing, but it's a good way to kill an hour.
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Mordecai posted:Speaking of taxing the rich, the recent Munk debate on that topic is viewable for free this weekend. It was nothing amazing, but it's a good way to kill an hour. Such luminaries of thought as Arthur Laffer and Newt 'moon bases' Gingrich.
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Autumncomet posted:Wait, really, what was this? Back in 2009, The Bank of Canada focusgrouped the designs for the new bank notes that were going to be introduced in 2012. The theme of the 100$ was "innovation" and showed an Asian woman looking through a microscope. Some racists objected, saying that she wasn't representative of Canada. When the note was reintroduced, the woman had been changed, to what the Bank of Canada claims is a "neutral ethnicity". Who has blond hair. They also issued a generic apology that I'm still not clear on whether it was apologizing for the change, or the inclusion of the Asian woman int he first place. Link to covergae: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/08/20/asian-100-bill-carney_n_1810925.html Edit: And to be clear, what makes me sad is both that a) people somehow thought that an Asian woman wasn't representative of Canada and that b) the BoC listened to them and changed the design. Political Whores fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Jun 1, 2013 |
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Mordecai posted:Speaking of taxing the rich, the recent Munk debate on that topic is viewable for free this weekend. It was nothing amazing, but it's a good way to kill an hour. Man, I'm bummed Robert Reich had to pull out of that one. That dude is great, and so is his son, Sam Reich.
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PittTheElder posted:Man, I'm bummed Robert Reich had to pull out of that one. That dude is great, and so is his son, Sam Reich. Is there a 3rd Reich?
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priznat posted:Is there a 3rd Reich? Pitt being a fan of a 3rd Reich, if there were one, wouldn't surprise me 
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Cordyceps Headache posted:They also issued a generic apology that I'm still not clear on whether it was apologizing for the change, or the inclusion of the Asian woman int he first place. Really? Mark Carney posted:In the development of our $100 bank note, efforts by the bank note designers to avoid depicting a specific individual resulted in an image that appears to represent only one ethnic group.
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Way to go, Mark Carney. The fact that you took the only ethnic minority ever to prominently feature on a Canadian banknote (pretty sure there was a black kid playing hockey on one of the old 5s or 10s though) off that banknote sure does mean you're representing all Canadians with that decision. Man, white people are the worst.
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vyelkin posted:Way to go, Mark Carney. The fact that you took the only ethnic minority ever to prominently feature on a Canadian banknote (pretty sure there was a black kid playing hockey on one of the old 5s or 10s though) off that banknote sure does mean you're representing all Canadians with that decision. I'm not arguing for or against this for the record because it was a nightmare to hear about when I was working in an office that had to deal with it. But the irony is the worst loving part was the major reason that is was changed was the chatter from other minority ethnic stakeholder groups saying "gently caress those (their words not mine) people why do they get someone on Canadian money and not (insert random minority here) instead." In the end it was ceded because, well, when everyone is yelling at you in politics it tends to happen. Again, I don't agree, just a little perspective from someone who was in the office when the decision was made. Pretty frustrating.
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I thought the kerfuffle was over the fact that depicting an Asian person specifically as a scientist was stereotypical, or something.
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colonel_korn posted:I thought the kerfuffle was over the fact that depicting an Asian person specifically as a scientist was stereotypical, or something. That was the excuse. I've met a surprising amount of people who categorize "race" like D&D races. I actually had some goony engineering student explain this to me once. Whites are humans, and good at everything, but rarely great. Asians are like elves, intelligent, but frail. It kept going down hill from there.
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NewtGoongrich posted:That was the excuse. I've met a surprising amount of people who categorize "race" like D&D races. I actually had some goony engineering student explain this to me once. Whites are humans, and good at everything, but rarely great. Asians are like elves, intelligent, but frail. It kept going down hill from there. Jesus. Let me guess, racist said black people were orcs right, and jews were dwarves? I've run into a guy like that before. He also claimed latinos were kobolds.....
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My grandpa, rest his creepy soul, would have called metis tieflings  "They're half-devils!  "
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I'm astounded that the off-topic chat continues to go down when headlines like this are roaring around. http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/05/31/the-worst-month-in-the-history-of-canadian-politics/ Also, Aaron Wherry is right up there with other liberal luminaries with on-the-nose political reporting. He always summarizes so well.
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I was thinking about voting reform and senate reform in Canada and it occurred to me that we could fix both problems in one go. Just change the senate from appointment to party lists with Senators selected so that the vote is proportional between the House and Senate. Now under the constitution each province gets a certain number of seats, so the party has a list for each province and territory (e.g. 24 for Ontario, 1 for Nunavut). I'm not 100% sure but this might avoid a constitutional change. Doing it this way will not change how people vote (should keep people happy), will not change the House, will make the Senate elected, and make elections fairly represented. For example the 2011 election results. 308 seat House. 105 seat Senate. 413 total seats. Party | Seats | Percentage CP | 166 | 39.62% NDP | 103 | 30.63% LPC | 34 | 18.91% BQ | 4 | 6.04% GPC | 1 | 3.91% Indie | 0 | 0.49% Christian Heritage | 0.13% Other | 0 | 0.27% Results in the same House as it is but the Senate looks like. Actual results depends on methods, so roughly: Party | Seats Proportional - House | Senate Seats CP | -2.37 | 0 NDP | 23.50 | 24 LPC | 44.10 | 44 BQ | 20.95 | 21 GPC | 15.15 | 15 Indie | 2.02 | N/A Christian Heritage | 0.54 | 1 Other | 1.16 | 0 The resulting proportions are: (House + Senate Seats / 413) Party | Seat Percentage | Vote Difference CP | 40.19% NDP | 30.75% LPC | 18.89% BQ | 6.05% GPC | 3.87% Indie | 0 Christian Heritage | 0.24% Other | 0
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That's an interesting idea. Part of "sober second thought" part of the Senate is still wholeheartedly embraced by its members, that because they are no longer subject to party and voter whims they can be better impartial adjudicators of legislation. I've watched three interviews now where Liberals and Conservatives have said this is still their purpose. However, I haven't seen much other come out of the Senate other than in camera sessions, where the debate is masked. We haven't a clue how these proceed normally, under a Liberal or Conservative chair. Is the debate rigourous? Does the ruling party limit debate like they do in the house? Are people actually sober? Your system is less technocratic than the current system, but the problem with the Senate right now is a lack of accountability. I feel that party lists drawn up by party elders wouldn't do much to appease the elect-the-senate crowd, and unless the opacity of their current operations is handled, I doubt it would appease us policy wonks either.
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