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Kenlon posted:
Really? I never used Anathema and was just coming here to ask if it was actually any good.
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I am on this like white on rice. Anathema made running 2E immeasurably easier.
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It's a pretty effective tool, does a fine job of keep track of all the bookkeeping on a character sheet, and presents handy visualizations of charm trees. Only real drawback I'd peg on it is lack of elegant ways to implement house rules, so any campaign that accumulates a lot of custom odds and ends will need to jump through some hoops.
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Mexcillent posted:Tyrant lizard statblock didn't seem to be posted, so... It was in the old thread. The bit about "10 Strength" in its damage entries made me a little concerned, since it seems like 3E is continuing on with the previous two editions' paradigm of Strength being almost entirely pointless outside of meeting prereqs since weapon and charm boosts are just so much bigger while Dexterity remains the Stat of Stats.
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Denim Avenger posted:Really? I never used Anathema and was just coming here to ask if it was actually any good. Outside of its inability to handle custom rules, it's really solid. I highly recommend it to anyone making an Exalted character. Day one online tools is actually a really good stretch goal.
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Denim Avenger posted:Really? I never used Anathema and was just coming here to ask if it was actually any good. It is a great tool, but honestly it was only needed because chargen in 2e was such a chore. I kinda hope it isn't needed for 3e, not all of us have a group where everyone has a laptop.
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axelsoar posted:It is a great tool, but honestly it was only needed because chargen in 2e was such a chore. I kinda hope it isn't needed for 3e, not all of us have a group where everyone has a laptop. I'm hoping that we can get good chargen software and a system you can make a guy in with just a sheet and a #2 pencil. To compare to another game, the robust character builder was a great strength of D&D 4e. Having a system with so many tiny, pointless hooks that you need a robust character builder to check your math was probably its greatest weakness.
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I think it's clear that they want a crunch-heavy game, unfortunately. It's not like there aren't a bunch of ports for lighter systems, though. (I might want to run something Cortex-based in the near future!)
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Oligopsony posted:I think it's clear that they want a crunch-heavy game, unfortunately. It's not like there aren't a bunch of ports for lighter systems, though. (I might want to run something Cortex-based in the near future!) You can do a crunch-heavy game without needing to track a bunch of fiddly little static modifiers and collate them together. If you stripped out feats and ability scores and the need for a magic item treadmill from D&D 4e, you'd still have a tremendously deep tactical combat system, but crucially you would not have tactical combat chargen where you need to spend time searching out, writing down, and tabulating a bunch of passive bonuses to make the math on your guy work right.
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Jun 5, 2013 05:54
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 "he might want to bang her like a fine drum" That line from the Faxai fiction aside, I've been pretty impressed with the art they've got going on for this edition.
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Attorney at Funk posted:You can do a crunch-heavy game without needing to track a bunch of fiddly little static modifiers and collate them together. If you stripped out feats and ability scores and the need for a magic item treadmill from D&D 4e, you'd still have a tremendously deep tactical combat system, but crucially you would not have tactical combat chargen where you need to spend time searching out, writing down, and tabulating a bunch of passive bonuses to make the math on your guy work right. QuintessenceX posted:
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axelsoar posted:It is a great tool, but honestly it was only needed because chargen in 2e was such a chore. I kinda hope it isn't needed for 3e, not all of us have a group where everyone has a laptop. The only person with a laptop at our games was me, as the GM. Printed Anathema sheets did the job for everyone else.
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Kenlon posted:The only person with a laptop at our games was me, as the GM. Printed Anathema sheets did the job for everyone else. I often did that as well, but ideally everyone should be able to work on their characters at the same time, collaborative chargen is fun.
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QuintessenceX posted:
QuintessenceX posted:"he might want to bang her like a fine drum". jesus christ
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Strength of Many posted:jesus christ Why am I getting the increasing sinking sensation that this is going to be as creepy and puerile as the 2E?
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Jun 5, 2013 08:32
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Exalted, forever the game you love but are ashamed to admit you like.
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Valhawk posted:Why am I getting the increasing sinking sensation that this is going to be as creepy and puerile as the 2E? Because all signs so far point to exactly that, I guess.
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Before everyone keeps jumping to conclusions, that picture didn't come with a subtitle.
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Jun 5, 2013 09:35
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No, that quote is from the first sample of chapter fiction that came with the Kickstarter.
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Heart Attacks posted:No, that quote is from the first sample of chapter fiction that came with the Kickstarter. Yeah, because an out-of-context example of one character using a weird idiom when discussing how she feels about a somewhat skeevy other character is such a huge problem :eyeroll:
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Flavivirus posted:Yeah, because an out-of-context example of one character using a weird idiom when discussing how she feels about a somewhat skeevy other character is such a huge problem :eyeroll: Considering the two lunars in that image, I'm not convinced that the quote is actually out of context. Even in the context of the fiction, it was jarring and out of place.
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Jun 5, 2013 10:12
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Heart Attacks posted:Considering the two lunars in that image, I'm not convinced that the quote is actually out of context. Even in the context of the fiction, it was jarring and out of place. This is getting kind of weird. How is the quote in context, based on the image?
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Bedlamdan posted:This is getting kind of weird. How is the quote in context, based on the image? Update #8 posted:She dropped down into the darkness where the others waited. There was another Lunar, an older Full Moon who had brought her here, no doubt at great risk. She had wanted to urge him to stay behind—it was not as if two of them could overmatch a Wyld Hunt together, any more than she could alone.
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Wait, we're having, just now, immediate kneejerk reactions to a quote from a piece of fiction that was posted weeks ago? I'm trying to come up with the best way to make fun of you, but it's so utterly perplexing because it was even posted - multiple times - in the (previous) Ex3 thread!
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The line is pretty awkward, sure, but Seven Devil Clever is aware the other Lunar is not interested in any sort of sexual poo poo with him and drops the matter like a mature and non-creepy adult. That's actually not a terrible way of expressing he's a solid and professional dude, unless I'm missing something.
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:The line is pretty awkward, sure, but Seven Devil Clever is aware the other Lunar is not interested in any sort of sexual poo poo with him and drops the matter like a mature and non-creepy adult. That's actually not a terrible way of expressing he's a solid and professional dude, unless I'm missing something. Slight problem there; Seven Devil Clever, the narrator, is the woman rather than the man. Still don't think it's creepy, just a weird choice of idiom.
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Flavivirus posted:Slight problem there; Seven Devil Clever, the narrator, is the woman rather than the man. Still don't think it's creepy, just a weird choice of idiom. Oh, right. Sorry, just woke up. Yeah, I think the idiom is too close to a modern colloquialism, which makes it sound juvenile, but overall I don't think the passage is painting the Full Moon as creepy.
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Fightest posted:Wait, we're having, just now, immediate kneejerk reactions to a quote from a piece of fiction that was posted weeks ago? I'm trying to come up with the best way to make fun of you, but it's so utterly perplexing because it was even posted - multiple times - in the (previous) Ex3 thread! It's still a pretty pointless and awkward line.
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I don't know if that's MelUran, I'm just guessing since she's the main artist but I've always liked her art.
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:Oh, right. Sorry, just woke up. It's not that it makes the Full Moon creepy, it's just so awkward and out of nowhere. "They were not kin, but he was here to help. He even brought friends. He was clearly itching for a fight. Also, she's pretty sure he wants to slow-gently caress her, and we're mentioning it now even though the matter was set to rest before this story even started. Moving on."
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That one line was the only part of the Lunar fiction that wasn't completely boring. Which is odd, because the Exigent one was genuinely interesting.
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It's just a really bad line that I haven't been able to drop since the fiction dropped. I liked the fiction for the most part and I respect it for being a super rough draft. I highly doubt something that awkward would make it to the final stages. By and large though, I've gotten the distinct feeling from this kickstarter that it's been kind of like... "oh poo poo we're getting too much funding, think of random poo poo to put down as a stretch goal." There's only been a few goals that legitimately feel like awesome stretch goals - Anathema, Sorcery, etc. The rest of the book upgrade poo poo and moreeeee novels sounds boring as hell to me.
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Oh, I was referring to the image itself, not the fiction, specifically this quote: Heart Attacks posted:Considering the two lunars in that image, I'm not convinced that the quote is actually out of context. I'm not seeing anything overtly or even implicitly sexual in that image: of both characters only Gorilla-Conan is in a ridiculous outfit, and both characters are doing nothing more than sitting next to each other, looking out into a forest without making eye contact. What is there in this image that makes the problematic quote even more problematic? And I do agree, it's not a very good line.
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That piece of art is pretty loving good. Glad to see Exalted art that isn't UDON. Please no UDON. e: wait not UDON but whoever it is that does the whole Exalted-Looks-Like-Superhero-Comics stuff from the Castebooks on out. With the big thews and square jaws.
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Who's the one that only draws skinny bald black girls with lots of facial piercings and either underboob or just full boob? I've seen that same character as a skunk, a chimera, a human, an alchemical (rocking a gearhawk), 3 of them at once with jetpacks... the guy just seems to have a stock character.
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theironjef posted:Who's the one that only draws skinny bald black girls with lots of facial piercings and either underboob or just full boob? I've seen that same character as a skunk, a chimera, a human, an alchemical (rocking a gearhawk), 3 of them at once with jetpacks... the guy just seems to have a stock character. Don't forget underwear with hearts on them.
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theironjef posted:Who's the one that only draws skinny bald black girls with lots of facial piercings and either underboob or just full boob? I've seen that same character as a skunk, a chimera, a human, an alchemical (rocking a gearhawk), 3 of them at once with jetpacks... the guy just seems to have a stock character. Ross Campbell.
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Bedlamdan posted:What is there in this image that makes the problematic quote even more problematic? And I do agree, it's not a very good line. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the picture. I said that the devs have not done a lot to suggest that Exalted 3e is going to move in a direction away from the tiresome shlock-as-maturity nonsense that pretty regularly reared its ugly head in 2e -- in this case, that's in the fiction that accompanies that picture (you know, the out-of-nowhere bit about "raising her tail for that old buck" in a scene ostensibly about planning a raid.) quote:Who's the one that only draws skinny bald black girls with lots of facial piercings and either underboob or just full boob? I've seen that same character as a skunk, a chimera, a human, an alchemical (rocking a gearhawk), 3 of them at once with jetpacks... the guy just seems to have a stock character. That's Ross Campbell, this guy: http://mooncalfe.deviantart.com/
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That's some Mary Sue fanwank, right? It's not just me thinking that guy was hired to slightly rebrand his extremely specific porn for every 2nd edition book? I wonder if the original version of that character has a name and lives in his head.
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He did some "good" stuff in 1e at the tail end that focused on weirdness over sex but still had plenty of breasts and asses.
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Heart Attacks posted:I didn't say there was anything wrong with the picture. Yeah, that makes more sense.
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