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Which show has the most (current or future) jobbers wrestling on it? This poll is closed. |
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| WWE NXT |
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62 | 16.36% |
| WWE Superstars |
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75 | 19.79% |
| WWE Saturday Morning Slam - lmao this thread is old |
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24 | 6.33% |
| WWE Main Event |
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22 | 5.80% |
| Impact Wrestling |
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196 | 51.72% |
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JimWK posted:Gone as in called up to the main roster, or released from the company? Bit of both.
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Jun 3, 2013 07:02
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JimWK posted:Gone as in called up to the main roster, or released from the company? Kinda both. That was worded poorly, but you still get what I'm saying. None of their guys are there forever either way.
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Jun 3, 2013 08:05
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They have a habit of calling up people who just won titles too, which isn't doing them any favours in building stars. If they can give someone a credible run* as the NXT champ and not just put it on someone who is already way over with the crowd, it will do them a lot of good in the long run. *Not Bo
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Jun 3, 2013 12:52
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I dunno, Big E got a pretty good run with the NXT title, and he was over as gently caress. Just have to remember that NXT is filmed weeks in advance, so it makes title reigns/call-ups seem much closer together than they actually are.
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Jun 3, 2013 12:56
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VogeGandire posted:I dunno, Big E got a pretty good run with the NXT title, and he was over as gently caress. Just have to remember that NXT is filmed weeks in advance, so it makes title reigns/call-ups seem much closer together than they actually are.
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Jun 3, 2013 14:37
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Kifisonfire posted:How many defenses has he actually had though? I think I can remember three in total, which for 6 months isn't that much (Conor O Brien, Damien Sandow and a squash on someone. I want to say Brad Maddox?). I get that they're filmed as batches ahead of time and an hour for an entire roster of developmental talent is pretty tough to fit in, but he's the champ. He should have a prominent place on the show to give the title some worth. According to Wiki and Cagematch he's defended it 3 times against Conor O'Brian, Brad Maddox and Damien Sandow. He has however been regularly competing so even when the title isn't on the line he's still on the show. I'd say right now they're more concerned with the tag titles, plus Big E was called up fairly early in his reign.
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Jun 3, 2013 14:51
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Much as I'm enjoying Sami Zayn so far in NXT, his smarky indie fans are already getting annoying because there aren't enough of them to get an actual "Ole" chant going. So during all of his matches we just get about 30 false starts by some drunk guy or some kid and then it quickly stops. It gets to the point where it's distracting. Maybe it'll get better when he's called up, or if they actually let him put the mask on, but for right now I wish they'd just embrace the new character unless they can get at least a full group of people to start up a chant.
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Jun 3, 2013 19:37
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sticklefifer posted:Much as I'm enjoying Sami Zayn so far in NXT, his smarky indie fans are already getting annoying because there aren't enough of them to get an actual "Ole" chant going. So during all of his matches we just get about 30 false starts by some drunk guy or some kid and then it quickly stops. It gets to the point where it's distracting.
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Jun 3, 2013 19:43
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sticklefifer posted:Much as I'm enjoying Sami Zayn so far in NXT, his smarky indie fans are already getting annoying because there aren't enough of them to get an actual "Ole" chant going. So during all of his matches we just get about 30 false starts by some drunk guy or some kid and then it quickly stops. It gets to the point where it's distracting.
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Jun 3, 2013 20:49
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Liar Lyre posted:Kinda both. That was worded poorly, but you still get what I'm saying. None of their guys are there forever either way. Yea, I just was not sure if there was some fear going through NXT management that they were going to clean house, or something. I'm just starting to get into NXT, and my knowledge of the dirtsheets is limited to what gets posted in this and the weekly discussion thread.
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Jun 3, 2013 21:11
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achillesforever6 posted:I imagine that it might pick up, I mean this is the same crowd that chanted "SHAH" everytime Curtis Axel hit somebody. See, that's something I wish would catch on in WWE main shows.
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Jun 3, 2013 21:37
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sticklefifer posted:See, that's something I wish would catch on in WWE main shows. That's the nice thing about running a small fed with a regular audience. They get to know the wrestlers, and little stuff like this can catch on. When you're touring to a new 10,000 person venue every week, it's harder to get little things like this over.
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Jun 3, 2013 21:47
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The "SHAH" thing is also much easier to hear in the much smaller arena. Which is why it caught on so quickly.
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Jun 4, 2013 01:35
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njsykora posted:What you need to bear in mind about the current NXT roster is that a lot of it is pretty much the top level of indie talent from the last 3-4 years and Big E Langston. I'm aware, but that was basically the case with Ohno and Rollins and Co. as well and it wasn't near this level.
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Jun 4, 2013 03:42
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Watching this week's NXT, it appears the NXT crowd have taken to Mason Ryan's "Colossus of Cardiff" nickname. They've started doing the X-Men Arcade "WHOOOOOAGH!" roar for him. Also, it looks like we're going to get another Cesaro/Zayn match! 
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Jun 6, 2013 04:56
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Watching Cesaro/Sheamus on Main Event right now and it is a total war. Really, really great match. It's marred a little by the commentary (even though Ricardo's there) but the crowd gets really into it.
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Jun 6, 2013 05:52
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Yeah, push or not, giving someone like Cesaro lengthy, impressive, weekly matches on TV isn't the worst thing in the world. I can't explain why, but for some reason Cesaro's new tan makes him look smaller in the ring. Maybe it's the ridiculous contrast with Sheamus or something, but I swear Cesaro usually looks bigger to me and I've only noticed this since he started tanning.
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Jun 6, 2013 17:30
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 June 6, 2013 Bo vs. E contract signing (with Jim Ross) Corey Graves interview Tamina vs. Paige (title tourney) Kassius interview Colin Casady vs. Mason Ryan Sami Zayn interview Alex Riley vs. Conor O'Brien Ohno & Graves vs. Wyatt Family He's tall...he's lean...he plays sports.  June 6, 2013 Sheamus vs. Cesaro Usos vs. Rhodes Scholars Curt Hawkins vs. Justin Gabriel  May 30, 2013 Cesaro vs. R-Truth PTP vs. Gabriel & Sin Cara
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Jun 6, 2013 18:22
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Was that a Misawa shirt that Kassius was wearing in that interview?
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Jun 6, 2013 18:50
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achillesforever6 posted:Was that a Misawa shirt that Kassius was wearing in that interview? It sure looked like it. Also, this week, they showed a new Leo Kruger video, which was a sort of new version of his creepy first one from way back when. Looks like they may be pushing him again in NXT soon.
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Jun 6, 2013 18:52
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Also I like this play by play guy, he actually calls the moves!
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Jun 6, 2013 19:18
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Makes sense to push Kruger now; there's going to be a creepy heel void in NXT pretty soon. Bo in a suit makes me think they should've just made him IRS Jr. He should've always been a slimy heel.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:22
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ALEX RILEY.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:26
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sticklefifer posted:I can't explain why, but for some reason Cesaro's new tan makes him look smaller in the ring. Maybe it's the ridiculous contrast with Sheamus or something, but I swear Cesaro usually looks bigger to me and I've only noticed this since he started tanning. I think it's more because of his lack of ring gear. He seriously just wears trunks and shoes now - no kneepads, elbowpads, wrist tape, or leg wraps. It makes him look a bit scrawny, especially against Sheamus, but at the same time they seemed to be telling the story that Cesaro was the quicker, more agile one while Sheamus was the big bruiser so it worked on that level. I have no idea why they chose to end the show with Gabriel vs Hawkins and not Sheamus/Cesaro though.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:26
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flashy_mcflash posted:I think it's more because of his lack of ring gear. He seriously just wears trunks and shoes now - no kneepads, elbowpads, wrist tape, or leg wraps. It makes him look a bit scrawny, especially against Sheamus, but at the same time they seemed to be telling the story that Cesaro was the quicker, more agile one while Sheamus was the big bruiser so it worked on that level. They've been doing that lately. Opening Main Event with the awesome match, and then closing it with something much more "meh." Don't know why.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:35
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Jay 2K Winger posted:They've been doing that lately. Opening Main Event with the awesome match, and then closing it with something much more "meh." Don't know why.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:42
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The awesome Ascension music is back 
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Jun 6, 2013 19:46
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Cromulent posted:By "lately" you mean "always." The main event on Main Event has literally always been first. It's so weird though. I feel like we've hashed this out on PSP many times before but a main event, by definition, should go on last on the broadcast (UFC playing dark matches after the main doesn't count).
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Jun 6, 2013 19:49
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Maybe it's a network TV thing. They're trying to get people who are looking for something to watch at the top of the hour, and they're more likely to stick with a main event match rather than a prelim with Curt Hawkins. They did the same thing with a lot of the 80's Saturday Night's Main Event. Hogan vs whoever would go on first, and it'd end with a boring tag match.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:55
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flashy_mcflash posted:It's so weird though. I feel like we've hashed this out on PSP many times before but a main event, by definition, should go on last on the broadcast (UFC playing dark matches after the main doesn't count). This comes up around music festivals too over who's headlining. I heard it defined as no matter what the promoters say (mostly with regards to 'double headliners' the band that goes on last and plays longest is the headliner. In wrestling I consider it to be the most important match on the show is the main event, the one everyone's paying to see. So naturally in the world of TV it makes most sense to put it on last so people watch the whole show. In reality however since Main Event is taped before Smackdown they want the big match out there first to get the crowd going then they record a "come down" match nobody really cares about so everyone can go get snacks before the actual Smackdown taping starts.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:57
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Bo Dallas sucks. edit: Also, Paige is dumb. Don't try to headbutt Samoans. getitoffgetitoff fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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Jun 6, 2013 20:05
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The crowd seems really hot for this Sheamus/Cesaro match.
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Jun 6, 2013 20:21
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njsykora posted:This comes up around music festivals too over who's headlining. I heard it defined as no matter what the promoters say (mostly with regards to 'double headliners' the band that goes on last and plays longest is the headliner. Yeah that makes sense. I usually think of these shows in a vacuum and not as a lead-in to Raw, even though that's what they are.
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Jun 6, 2013 20:43
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njsykora posted:This comes up around music festivals too over who's headlining. I heard it defined as no matter what the promoters say (mostly with regards to 'double headliners' the band that goes on last and plays longest is the headliner. I understand that. But Main Event is taped and aired later, so there's nothing stopping them from editing it so the actual main event (in this case, Sheamus/Cesaro) comes last.
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Jun 6, 2013 20:49
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getitoffgetitoff posted:
I thought the same thing ha
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Jun 6, 2013 21:42
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Jay 2K Winger posted:I understand that. But Main Event is taped and aired later, so there's nothing stopping them from editing it so the actual main event (in this case, Sheamus/Cesaro) comes last. I always figured it was "Here's the match we promised you right off the bat. If that doesn't fill the hour, here's Justin Gabriel doing flippy things."
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Jun 6, 2013 22:47
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NXT is so good.
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Jun 7, 2013 00:06
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I want to see Mason Ryan and Ryback just wailing on each other until someone's heart explodes. It'd probably be a fantastic match.
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Jun 7, 2013 00:58
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sticklefifer posted:I always figured it was "Here's the match we promised you right off the bat. If that doesn't fill the hour, here's Justin Gabriel doing flippy things." This is the case; it's got a thematic tie-in to the original Saturday Night's Main Event shows. Those were more a product of their time slot than anything else; replacing Saturday Night Live meant going on at 11:35 Eastern, and having a big match at the beginning of the show was important to keep viewers in.
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Jun 7, 2013 01:07
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Pseudophile posted:I want to see Mason Ryan and Ryback just wailing on each other until someone's heart explodes. It'd probably be a fantastic match. Just have them reenact Big Daddy v. Giant Haystacks spot for spot. It would be both MOTY and WMOTY.
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