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Gammatron 64 posted:
Dunno about Starforce but Battle Network was OK yo.
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S-Alpha posted:I will straight-up e-fight you over that. Put up yer dukes! But nah, I understand some people like Battle Network and that's fine, I'm not gonna judge you or anything, but I find those games about as fun as a root canal. They're not for me.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:37
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Gammatron 64 posted:Iris only showed up in X4 and Xtreme 2 and was pretty lame in both of them. Iris was literally a throwaway character, in that she got killed off in her first appearance. Iris' true legacy is in prompting the "What am I fighting forrr?" meme.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:44
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Gammatron 64 posted:Honestly, if I'm gonna list the Megaman figures I'd really want: Metal Man, who should have won in the last round of voting
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Jun 6, 2013 19:49
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Battle Network 1 was neat in that it was an alternate Mega Man world where things were cheerful compared to the increasingly dark X and Zero series. It was just a boring game. Maybe it came out when I was just getting tired of RPGs, but I don't like how it mixed random battles with a lack of experience points. After a while, I just got sick of wondering around in the Internet. Maybe things improved in the second game, but by then I was done with the series. I didn't even know there was a Star Force series until this thread.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:56
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Gammatron 64 posted:Ciel never does anything more than be a damsel in distress and he design isn't even unique or interesting. She's as plain and boring as they come. There's a following that's making a fan game to change exactly that. e:  Okay, that looks pretty awesome.
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Jun 6, 2013 20:20
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BloodDesk UnderHell posted:Battle Network 1 was neat in that it was an alternate Mega Man world where things were cheerful compared to the increasingly dark X and Zero series. It was just a boring game. Maybe it came out when I was just getting tired of RPGs, but I don't like how it mixed random battles with a lack of experience points. After a while, I just got sick of wondering around in the Internet. Uh yes things improved in the second game by about 10 fold.
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Jun 6, 2013 21:51
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MonsterEnvy posted:Uh yes things improved in the second game by about 10 fold. Maybe if the first game wasn't so boring I might have gotten the second. Later I decided "OK, I'll give these a second chance." And the one I got was... Battle Network 4. Yeah, that certainly didn't help me warm up to the series.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:28
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TaurusOxford posted:I still don't understand how Ciel makes it to anyone's top 3. Volnutt sure, but CIEL?! I think I saw some people posting about voting for Iris in this very thread. I guess there's just no accounting for bad taste.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:33
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Gammatron 64 posted:Maybe if the first game wasn't so boring I might have gotten the second. Much like every series of Mega Man games, there's 2 or 3 in the middle that are just terrible (BN 4 and 5, Mega Man 5 and 6, X has...actually the majority of the X games, Zero has 4, Star Force has 2)
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Jun 6, 2013 22:39
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First impressions are important. The first X title I played back then was X3. I was put off the X series for at least another 4 years.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:45
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As much as I have thick rose-tinted goggles for MM2&3, I have to point out that MM4-6 are infinitely more polished and well-designed.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:46
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quakster posted:As much as I have thick rose-tinted goggles for MM2&3, I have to point out that MM4-6 are infinitely more polished and well-designed. 4 and 5 yes. 6? HELL NO. I just didn't like the levels at all in 6. That and not being able to cancel my slide was dumb. 
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Jun 6, 2013 22:49
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The 'problem' with Battle Network is that it gives the middle finger to a lot of traditional RPG mechanics and that neither it is a jump and shoot game. Anyone expecting either thing out of BN is going to be disappointed. If you like strategy with some running and gunning though, then the gameplay is excellent and it is a shame there aren't more titles like it. I cannot even begin to care about Star Force though.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:50
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Ka0 posted:First impressions are important. The first X title I played back then was X3. I was put off the X series for at least another 4 years. What's wrong with X3, besides X's buster upgrade?
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Jun 6, 2013 22:51
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TaurusOxford posted:What's wrong with X3, besides X's buster upgrade? Maybe too much poo poo to collect. Did anybody actually care about all the armors, for one?
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Jun 6, 2013 22:52
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Gammatron 64 posted:Legends Tron Bonne in labcoat+glasses costume.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:56
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Volt Catfish posted:Maybe too much poo poo to collect. Did anybody actually care about all the armors, for one? Christ no. The multiple armor poo poo was the worst thing introduced in the X franchise, which is saying a lot. Armor sets fell into two categories: 1) Pointless or 2) The only thing you'll actually want.
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Jun 6, 2013 22:58
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The second game is the best in every MM series except X, where it's X1 (with X4 right on its heels).
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Jun 6, 2013 23:01
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TaurusOxford posted:What's wrong with X3, besides X's buster upgrade? The music.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:03
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LemonLimeTime posted:The music. Except Gravity Beetle.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:03
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And the Vile stage.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:05
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chumbler posted:The second game is the best in every MM series except X, where it's X1 (with X4 right on its heels). Star Force. The 3rd one's the best.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:07
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Most of the bosses had extremely lazy animation and attack patterns too. I never liked it as much as X1 and X2. But yeah the horrendous X-Buster was one of its worse features.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:08
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X2 had the best intro stage music for sure. edit: now with 100% more correct link
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Jun 6, 2013 23:09
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Christ no. The multiple armor poo poo was the worst thing introduced in the X franchise, which is saying a lot. Armor sets fell into two categories: 1) Pointless or 2) The only thing you'll actually want. I think X8 was the only game that did this well, since you could mix and match each piece of armor so it wasn't a huge issue. The worst is...I forget, was X6 the one where you had to get all the components of an armor before you could use it? It's been ages so I don't remember.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:10
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Coughing Hobo posted:X2 had the best intro stage music for sure. Personal favorite is X4's intro
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Jun 6, 2013 23:13
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Srice posted:I think X8 was the only game that did this well, since you could mix and match each piece of armor so it wasn't a huge issue. X5 and X6 both. X6 actually kinda pulled it off, because both Shadow and Blade armours are REALLY BADASS. Omnidirectional long-range airdash after effectively unlimited hovering plus a charged shot that occasionally sticks around to drill the gently caress out of whatever it hit, or wall-sticking, superjumping, sticking to ceilings and flinging shurikens, immune to spikes and with an awesome saber slash for a charged shot. E: MonsterEnvy posted:Personal favorite is X4's intro You seem to have been playing the wrong character.
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Jun 6, 2013 23:27
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X4 has my Seal of Approval for best series music overall. This opinion is cast in platinum-coated nickel and nothing anyone says will change it.
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It's pretty tough to top X1, though. None of the tracks are stinkers and it's all iconic stuff.
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Jun 7, 2013 00:11
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Star Force. The 3rd one's the best. SF3 is actually a fantastic game. I hated how Starforce began, but the third game felt more fun than anything in Battle Network (the only Megaman series I actually enjoy playing).
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Jun 7, 2013 00:24
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TaurusOxford posted:What's wrong with X3, besides X's buster upgrade?
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I know it's been repeated but music has always been an essential part of MegaMan games. Most of the games have good, sometimes even really great themes etc. X3? Felt way too samey with the guitar riffs. I feel X3 was more of what could've been but kinda fell flat on it's face. Especially the restrictions regarding Zero. Might as well not even play him.The buster felt weaker in that game honestly. Kaiser Sigma was challenging but just, the game itself I rarely play it out of all X games. Ok that is a lie. That goes to x7 but that's a given.
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Jun 7, 2013 01:18
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Gonna have to agree with MonsterEnvy there and say that X did have the superior intro theme in X4, sir. When it comes to X3, I don't like the music much and it isn't as fun as X1 or X2, but I have plenty fun playing that game despite that. I don't know what that says about my tastes in games though  I will say that one area that X3 really failed in was enemy variety. They used way too many of those red flail robots and the missile launching ones you find in almost every stage. AHungryRobot fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jun 7, 2013 |
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AHungryRobot posted:Gonna have to agree with MonsterEnvy there and say that X did have the superior intro theme in X4, sir. I really liked X3 too, but it's been awhile.
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Jun 7, 2013 01:36
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LemonLimeTime posted:The music. It was better than X6's failure of a soundtrack.
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X3 has lovely level design, lovely music, lovely bosses with lazy pattern and animation, stupid weapon capsules and items that you don't need and require lots of backtracking, and is just plain and simple the weakest game out of the first four. That said, I'd play X3 over X5-X8 any day of the week. I'm sure we all know, but X5, X6, and X7 are all loving atrocious games and X8 is merely mediocre. Light Gun Man posted:Tron Bonne in labcoat+glasses costume. MvC2 Tron Bonne or nothing! quakster posted:As much as I have thick rose-tinted goggles for MM2&3, I have to point out that MM4-6 are infinitely more polished and well-designed. Mega Man 2 isn't NEARLY as great as people say it is. The game is FULL of bullshit, and the Metal Blade is broken as poo poo. MM3 and 4 are probably the best games in the series. I wouldn't say MM5 is as well designed as the weapons are super lovely in that one. MM6 has a lot of fun things to play around with, though.
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MM2 is a good start for what's to come, but not that well-designed at all. I like MM5 quite a lot. It's mostly two things: First, it's incredibly polished. Looks fantastic, great backgrounds, so much effort put into making it an enjoyable experience; everything flows really well, a breeze to play through, low on instant kill (I hate that), from start to finish a fun romp without too many hang-ups. Second, I really enjoy playing around with the weapons. They're pretty bad in comparison, but taken at face value, they're really worth using on their own, notable exceptions being Power Stone (one of the worst ever) and Water Wave (if only it had more energy and could be used in the air...like Ice Wave or whatever from MM8!). MM5 is great and just fun.
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Jun 7, 2013 02:05
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Power Stone would be good if the stones rotated about ten times faster as they moved away from. That way they would actually be able to hit something.
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I look at this way. 1 is for the magic that happen. Of course there is alot of rookie level designs mistakes so you don't have to play it. 2 is basically if you want to break the game in half and destroy everything. I like 3, but gently caress those goddamn Doc Robots. Hitbox bullshit! 4 for introducing the Mega Buster (charging) and 5 for making it more OP. Six sucked. I won't hear anything about it. 7 is actually drat good if you can get over the huge size pixels. Only problem with it is Final Wily. I want to kick the designer/Infaune for making that Wily stupid hard. 8 is meh because of how simple it is and not that fun. 9 for the return of the classics, it is probably harder than all the other MM games. 10 is polished but it's either you love/hate it. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jun 7, 2013 |
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