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Going along with the James Bond questions: In terms of plot continuity, do I need to see Quantum of Solace before watching Skyfall? I've seen Casino Royale but avoided Quantum due to lackluster reviews.
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caiman posted:Going along with the James Bond questions: In terms of plot continuity, do I need to see Quantum of Solace before watching Skyfall? I've seen Casino Royale but avoided Quantum due to lackluster reviews. Skyfall is a stand alone. There is really no need to watch Quantum.
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Jun 7, 2013 14:50
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QOS is such an oddity that I think it is worth a watch.
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Jun 7, 2013 14:57
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:QOS is such an oddity that I think it is worth a watch. I would say it's not worth watching, since you'll immediately forget everything about it once it's over. I can't remember a single line of dialogue, scene, or non-Bond character from the film. I think there was a burning building at some point and some kind of South American general, or something.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:08
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I still like QOS more then Octopussy. Now there is a film that is just there and commits the greatest sin a Bond film can do, be boring.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:10
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Bond gets beaten with a fire extinguisher by Roman Polanski.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:10
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bobkatt013 posted:I still like QOS more then Octopussy. Now there is a film that is just there and commits the greatest sin a Bond film can do, be boring. QOS is sitting in my stack of unwatched DVDs, so I can't comment on that one, but I'm surprised you'd find Octopussy boring. I think Octopussy has a lot of problems, but boring isn't the word I'd use to describe it. If anything it is almost too over the top.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:25
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CopywrightMMXI posted:QOS is sitting in my stack of unwatched DVDs, so I can't comment on that one, but I'm surprised you'd find Octopussy boring. I think Octopussy has a lot of problems, but boring isn't the word I'd use to describe it. If anything it is almost too over the top. I just do not remember anything about it. I have seen it a couple of times and all I really remember is Roger Moore dressed as a clown. Also the racism in regards to the British and Indians.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:28
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I don't like the Roger Moore era Bond. Early Connery stuff good, Dalton stuff good, Goldeneye which has aged is fine, and then Craig's era (watch QoS anyway). It's cool the best era is the current era. Watch it if you want but I don't think you'd miss much skipping Moore, imo. Well, maybe A View to a Kill for Grace Jones and Walken.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:30
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bobkatt013 posted:I just do not remember anything about it. I have seen it a couple of times and all I really remember is Roger Moore dressed as a clown. Also the racism in regards to the British and Indians. The racism is the main problem I felt as well. Regardless, it's still more entertaining than some of Moore's other films, such as Live or Let Die for example.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:37
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Watch Casino Royale, then watch Quantum of Solace immediately afterwards. Quantum picks up seconds after Casino Royale and works a lot better when watched like that. In fact, see if you can mentally shift the break between the two movies, so that Casino Royale ends when Bond quits with Vesper.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:46
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If you particularly enjoyed Casino Royale then Quantum of Solace might be worth watching as it's a direct follow up. Skyfall is a much better film though, and standalone in plot (it references a lot of previous Bond stuff but nothing QoS specific).
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Jun 7, 2013 15:58
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bobkatt013 posted:I just do not remember anything about it. I have seen it a couple of times and all I really remember is Roger Moore dressed as a clown. Also the racism in regards to the British and Indians. He's a clown that defuses a nuclear bomb! If Homer Simpson has seen that movie twice, surely we can see it at least once.
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Jun 7, 2013 15:59
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A View to a Kill is always mentioned as one of the worst, but it's easily my favourite Moore-era Bond. I'm not a big Moore fan, so that may be why, but there's just something about it I love.
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Jun 7, 2013 16:11
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LesterGroans posted:A View to a Kill is always mentioned as one of the worst, but it's easily my favourite Moore-era Bond. I'm not a big Moore fan, so that may be why, but there's just something about it I love. The opening credits? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWVbVT3igdw
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Jun 7, 2013 16:11
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Roger Moore does have one Bond film that's more in line with Connery, Dalton and Brosnan though and it's definitely one of my favourites: For Your Eyes Only. Its got a pretty decent storyline and antagonist that's quite down to earth after the madness of Moonraker. As a bonus it has a few emotional punches and my favourite Moore moment that the actor himself hates.
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Jun 7, 2013 16:26
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^^ I liked the arrow death in that one.LesterGroans posted:A View to a Kill is always mentioned as one of the worst, but it's easily my favourite Moore-era Bond. I'm not a big Moore fan, so that may be why, but there's just something about it I love. This amazing scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGOe-KLc9QI
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Jun 7, 2013 16:40
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A View to a Kill did have one of the best opening songs.
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Jun 7, 2013 17:35
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Goldeneye really aged badly. I remembered liking it years ago, but it comes off as a decade older than it really is. The only clue to it being from 1995 is the computer technology.
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Jun 7, 2013 18:51
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Quantum of Solace has a pretty cool car chase, but that's about all I remember. Maybe Olga Kurylenko was in it?
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Jun 7, 2013 19:00
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:QOS is such an oddity that I think it is worth a watch. QoS is sort of the extended cut of Casino Royale. It doesn't work as a standalone but is argubly okay when paired with the previous movie. There is too much shakycam however.
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Jun 7, 2013 21:05
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Just watch the Roger Moore bond movies they're the only good ones.
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Jun 7, 2013 21:29
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:If you particularly enjoyed Casino Royale then Quantum of Solace might be worth watching as it's a direct follow up. I actually disagree with this because if anything Casino Royale will make QoS seem even worse because it's as awesome as QoS is dull and lovely. I'm not huge into bond and haven't seen enough bond films but I loved Casino Royale and was psyched for QoS and rarely have I been more let down by a film. edit: this last part should not have been here 
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Jun 7, 2013 21:38
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QoS has the best opening to a Bond movie. The Italian car chase is sick, sick, sick. Gorgeous camera work and incredible sound design
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Jun 7, 2013 22:39
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qntm posted:Watch Casino Royale, then watch Quantum of Solace immediately afterwards. Quantum picks up seconds after Casino Royale and works a lot better when watched like that. Yup this, it works pretty well as a double feature.
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axleblaze posted:I actually disagree with this because if anything Casino Royale will make QoS seem even worse because it's as awesome as QoS is dull and lovely. I'm not huge into bond and haven't seen enough bond films but I loved Casino Royale and was psyched for QoS and rarely have I been more let down by a film.
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Jun 8, 2013 01:43
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Quantum of Solace has a pretty cool car chase, but that's about all I remember. Maybe Olga Kurylenko was in it? Ammanas posted:QoS has the best opening to a Bond movie. The Italian car chase is sick, sick, sick. Gorgeous camera work and incredible sound design Honestly, the editing in the opening was so schizophrenic and rapid that I had no real idea what the hell was going on and by extension could not care less.
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Jun 8, 2013 03:13
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Please don't think I was saying that QOS is a good movie.
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Jun 8, 2013 03:14
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wigbone posted:As a bonus it has a few emotional punches and my favourite Moore moment that the actor himself hates. Which moment was that? I think I was about 10 years old when I saw it on Showtime or HBO shortly after it came out and don't remember much about it other than that it was my first Bond exposure and I thought it was cool. I really liked the theme song, too.
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I hope this is the right thread. I'm looking for a gbtl themed movie. I remember two scenes. One was a cheerleader singing a beatles song that was a lesbian love song to another cheerleader, but the singer wasn't out of the closet. The beatles song was supposed to be upbeat and fast, but for the scene it was a slower tempo. I wish I remembered the song but I know so many beatles songs it could be any of them. I think the singer might've been hispanic? The other seen was a young man, maybe teen, who was in a recruiter's office and there was a sort of dance scene, maybe also with a beatles song or some other song. Basically he went either from plain clothes or a football outfit to wearing army clothes. There was choreography with other people during this scene as well. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? It's been bugging me for ages  I can't remember how it turned out.
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Jun 8, 2013 07:22
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Wedemeyer posted:I hope this is the right thread. I'm looking for a gbtl themed movie. I remember two scenes. One was a cheerleader singing a beatles song that was a lesbian love song to another cheerleader, but the singer wasn't out of the closet. The beatles song was supposed to be upbeat and fast, but for the scene it was a slower tempo. I wish I remembered the song but I know so many beatles songs it could be any of them. I think the singer might've been hispanic?
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Jun 8, 2013 07:25
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Wedemeyer posted:I hope this is the right thread. I'm looking for a gbtl themed movie. I remember two scenes. One was a cheerleader singing a beatles song that was a lesbian love song to another cheerleader, but the singer wasn't out of the closet. The beatles song was supposed to be upbeat and fast, but for the scene it was a slower tempo. I wish I remembered the song but I know so many beatles songs it could be any of them. I think the singer might've been hispanic? Hot Dog 3: Escape to Boner Mountain
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Jun 8, 2013 07:30
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That's definitely Across The Universe but holy poo poo I am so bummed it's not Hot Dog 3: Escape to Boner Mountain.
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Jun 8, 2013 08:10
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I exclaim that same sentiment loudly and consistently during the opening credits of every movie I see in theatres. ＳＴＡＲ ＴＲＥＫ： ＩＮＴＯ ＤＡＲＫＮＥＳＳ "Yup, that's definitely Star Trek: Into Darkness, but I am so bummed it's not HOT DOG 3: ESCAPE TO BONER MOUNTAIN!"
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Jun 8, 2013 08:15
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QoS is basically just a really long epilogue to Casino Royale, which itself had its own pacing problems. QoS just largely stalls as a film though, it's quite an impressive achievement, it's also totally unneeded.
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Jun 8, 2013 10:33
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SkunkDuster posted:Which moment was that? I think I was about 10 years old when I saw it on Showtime or HBO shortly after it came out and don't remember much about it other than that it was my first Bond exposure and I thought it was cool. I really liked the theme song, too. I'll spoil it just to save the guy who's only started watching the bond films. Throughout most of the film Bond is stalked/stalking a man named Emil Locque. Locque is the right hand man of the main villain and a lot of the action/deaths in the film come because of his hand. Locque brutally drives over one of the Bond girls on a beach right in front of Bond and kills her. This is a lot darker than the Moore movies are known for and Bond basically wants revenge for the rest of the movie. It's the revenge part I love so much. Locque is driving recklessly up a winding cliff road and Bond is chasing on foot up some stairs. He manages to head Locque off near the top and shoots at his car hitting Locque's shoulder. The car swerves across the road doing several spins before resting on the edge of the cliff precariously above the water far below. Bond walks over to the car cooly and calmly to see Locque bloodied, but alive, in the drivers seat and looking down the driver's side window at the steep drop. He looks up at Bond who tosses him a pendant. The pendant was one Locque left at the scene of the murder. Then Bond kicks the car over the edge of the cliff. Locque's screams as his car drops down are pretty much the only lines from the actor the whole film. He has no dialogue at all. (I think the quip afterwards is totally superfluous but it's Bond and he has to quip after his kills to stop developing PTSD) It's great because it's the only time Moore is as cold and brutal as someone like Craig or Connery. It's really out of place in his films because they are so wacky British hijinx. Moore really wanted it cut and didn't want to do it. I know, spoiling a 31 year old film.
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Jun 8, 2013 10:45
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Ammanas posted:QoS has the best opening to a Bond movie. The Italian car chase is sick, sick, sick. Gorgeous camera work and incredible sound design The opening to Thunderball has everything that was great about the second half of the Connery period: http://youtu.be/uuTUTbXPf48
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Jun 8, 2013 10:50
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DrVenkman posted:QoS just largely stalls as a film though, it's quite an impressive achievement, it's also totally unneeded. What's impressive about it? It's ugly and nonsensical and dumb.
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Jun 8, 2013 17:15
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DeimosRising posted:What's impressive about it? It's ugly and nonsensical and dumb. Exactly that. After coming off Casino Royale, which people loved, they utterly squandered it on...that. CR gives them a great jumping off point and they have no idea what to do with it. Am I right in thinking it was a victim of the writer's strike or did I just make that up?
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DrVenkman posted:Exactly that. After coming off Casino Royale, which people loved, they utterly squandered it on...that. CR gives them a great jumping off point and they have no idea what to do with it. Am I right in thinking it was a victim of the writer's strike or did I just make that up?
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