|
Fabricating claims and pressing de jure claims are your easiest to use and most boring way of expanding. Marry a princess and murder your way through her family instead!
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 07:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 06:10 |
|
|
I'm playing as the Petty Kingdom of Munster, and after 20 years I managed to add the entirety of Munster to my personal demesne, captured the Duchy of Leinster and gave the title of Duke of Leinster to a cousin. But for some reason that cousin got both the county of Ossory and the county of Leinster when I handed him the Duchy title. I think that's a bit too much personal power for one duke to have right now, so if I revoke his title to the county of Ossory and hand it to another cousin who I then make a direct vassal of the Duke of Leinster, I won't have to deal with the Count of Ossory directly but I'll still get the same amount of levies and taxes as if I just let the Duke of Leinster have both counties, right?
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 07:59
|
|
|
Exactly one year ago, France/Aquitaine/The Low Countries/Burgundy/Italy and pretty much all of Germany were a united Lotharingia. Unfortunitely, Lothar had six daughters...with gavelkind. One assassination later!  P.S. No Decadence wars is pretty funny, both the Ummayads and Abbasids are at like 90+% now and going up. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 08:48
|
|
|
The nice thing about playing the Byzantines is knowing this: For all the trouble the Abbasids/Fatimids/Seljuk are giving you, you know that in time the game will throw the biggest "gently caress you" at them and you can watch them being slaughtered by the Mongols.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 10:45
|
|
|
The Karlings in my game won't stop making new kingdom titles, and won't switch away from Gavelkind. Not that I'm complaining; the personal union of East and West Francia was way harder to deal with than the current perpetual warzone of seven different Carolingian kings*. It's 905, and the Christians aren't doing so well. Aside from the Karling Fratricide Extravaganza, the Basileus is an Iconoclast and wrestling with realm implosion, the last slivers of Christian Spain are set to fracture into bits when the current King dies, and Harald Fairhair has become the Side note: where does the word "Fylkir" come from? Googling it just brings up CKII chat and some Icelandic soccer club. *Kingdoms of East Francia, West Francia, Lotharingia, Bavaria, Aquitaine, Italy, and the Sultanate of Burgundy Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Jun 7, 2013 |
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 10:47
|
|
|
Strudel Man posted:
This should say Augustus instead. Caesar would be king level/the heir.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 10:57
|
|
|
My old spymaster died and I found an unmarried woman with 23 intrigue off in another country. I married her to a random courtier and now she's in my court, but it won't let me choose her as spymaster, what gives 
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 11:05
|
|
|
Torrannor posted:The nice thing about playing the Byzantines is knowing this: For all the trouble the Abbasids/Fatimids/Seljuk are giving you, you know that in time the game will throw the biggest "gently caress you" at them and you can watch them being slaughtered by the Mongols. In my game the Golden Horde melted away and there's just a monstrous Sunni Ilkhanate with 100k doomstacks on my doorstep.  If I can get the Rus on my side, I might try to start chipping away at them. That, or hope the beta patch bringing back decadence wars will split them.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 11:14
|
|
|
Infinite Monkeys posted:My old spymaster died and I found an unmarried woman with 23 intrigue off in another country. I married her to a random courtier and now she's in my court, but it won't let me choose her as spymaster, what gives Unmodded, it has to be your wife or mother. Download girl power.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 11:33
|
|
|
Holy poo poo vanilla is unbalanced  I was playing Byzantium in the old gods start and the übermensch Emperor lived to be 79 and mended the great schism. I went for a powerful vassals strategy and made an elective Anatolia which I gave to a competent Duke, he managed to holy war his way across the east and take Antioch, while I secured the de jure parts of Italy and gave it to my son. At 72 I decided to go all in and took Alexandria and Jerusalem, my son being a real bro took Rome in the meanwhile and a short war with the king of Italy gave me the castle in Rome too. The great schism is now mended, my dynasty has been maneuvered into Bulgaria, Byzantium is more powerful than ever but the Emperor just died.Now his son has inherited and I intend to press my nephews claim on Italy and reclaim the Roman Empire.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 13:01
|
|
|
In my first huge Scandinavian empire Norse game, Europe just looks ridiculous. The Abbasids own all of West Africa, Arabia, Iberia and France and are therefore impenetrable. the Byzantines conquered right up to Holland before fragmenting into a hideous patchwork of warring states, so Orthodox christianity is the dominant religion in most of Europe. The Pope only owns about three random bishoprics and his moral authority is less than 20. The only significant Catholic concentration is on the British Isles, which is owned by Fraticellis and is in the process of being converted. All of what used to be Lotharingia/East Francia is Cathar. The map is just a goddam mess. Is this normal? Obviously things can and do go totally off the rails, but I never expected to see the total collapse of Catholicism by the mid 12th Century, and the Muslim states seem horribly overpowered at the Old Gods startdate.Rejected Fate posted:Is there a console command that allows you to change capital freely? Also, it says you can't change capitals more than once per ruler unless it is to the traditional capital. Is there any way of telling exactly which provinces are these 'traditional capitals'? I mean, it's easy enough to work out with areas you're personally familiar with, but otherwise not so much.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 13:28
|
|
|
So playing as Aragon I've taken half of what I need to form the empire of Espania in my first lifetime, I'm belove by everyone and can raise one of the biggest armies in the world. There's only one problem. Im 75 years old and my heir has decided to become a craven piece of poo poo. His son is craven. His grandson is 2 years old. His brother was my best general but he died. I put all of his other brothers in the church! Do I tank my reputation and start killing my children wholesale, and then revoke a bishopric to try and get a half decent heir into power? Then crush a few rebellions and release their leaders? That's the only thing I can think of that's not going to leave my entire kingdom in shambles.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 13:59
|
|
|
The 25 year old king of Sweden, his 3 year old male heir and then the 2 year old female heir all died in mysterious accidents. within 4 months. Ignoring the fact that said heirs were also my grandchildren, I didn't even have anything to do with the last one! Now Sweden is falling apart and maybe I can get the Jarldom I've deserved for FORTY BLOODY YEARS OF FIGHTING FOR YOU YOU rear end in a top hat.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:07
|
|
|
Wezlar posted:So playing as Aragon I've taken half of what I need to form the empire of Espania in my first lifetime, I'm belove by everyone and can raise one of the biggest armies in the world. There's only one problem. Im 75 years old and my heir has decided to become a craven piece of poo poo. His son is craven. His grandson is 2 years old. His brother was my best general but he died. I put all of his other brothers in the church! Do I tank my reputation and start killing my children wholesale, and then revoke a bishopric to try and get a half decent heir into power? Then crush a few rebellions and release their leaders? That's the only thing I can think of that's not going to leave my entire kingdom in shambles. Roll with it, prepare to go into damage control mode, rebuild when you see an opportunity. Dealing with disastrous successions is half the fun of this game, really.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:08
|
|
|
What do people think of starting as the Duke of Bohemia? I just got the game a couple days ago, picked him, and it's going pretty well. I managed to king-up with my first guy, and I've since grabbed the Duchies of Austria and Meissen. I'm about to start working on Bavaria, and my ultimate goal is to be Emperor. The biggest problem I've had is that I seem to be stuck with gavelkind, and I recently got out of a huge civil war where both my brothers/co-Dukes declared against me. I had to make peace with the guy holding the last duchy of Austria I don't have, and then I blew all my money on mercenaries since the back-stabbers had me outnumbered. I won, but after realizing that I could strip my brothers only of their duchies and not any of their counties, I had them both executed. So I'm not real popular (Tyrant -70!), but things are under control now. The money's rolling in, my levies are getting bigger, and as long as my one son stays alive and manages to reproduce, I should be OK.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:10
|
|
|
Riso posted:This should say Augustus instead. Caesar would be king level/the heir. Imperator works. The Romans never really did settle on a single title. Caesar's best suited for prince, imo, since later on that was the title given to the sub-emperor who was going to wear the purple after the current emperor's death. 'Vicarius' might work for king or duke level if you were trying to go for a later Roman feel, but that title only really works within the Roman Empire-- 'Rex' would work better for a king-level Roman independent of the Empire for whatever reason. 'Dux' and 'Comes' are direct translations of duke and count, respectively, but if you want to get finicky there's several ways you could go.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:24
|
|
|
So i had this vassal who has two counties. These two counties form a duchy, but the title wasn't created when he got them. After i created the title, if i give it to him, he becomes independent. Why is that? /confused.new.player
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:54
|
|
|
Mordieth posted:So i had this vassal who has two counties. These two counties form a duchy, but the title wasn't created when he got them. After i created the title, if i give it to him, he becomes independent. Why is that? /confused.new.player He cannot create a duke-level title if he's the vassal of a duke. If you, as a duke, create the title and give it to your count vassal, your vassal becomes an independent duke, because a duke cannot have a duke as a vassal.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 14:56
|
|
|
Reading up on some Norse (semi-legendary)history I like this person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigrid_the_Haughty "As widow of Eric the Victorious, she held many great estates, and was living with her son Olav the Swede, when her foster-brother Harald Grenske, a king in Vestfold sought her hand. She had him and another royal wooer, Vissavald of Gardarik, burned to death in a great hall following a feast to discourage other suitors.  Her hand was next sought by Olaf Trygvasson, the king of Norway, but he would have required that she convert to Christianity. She told him to his face, "I will not part from the faith which my forefathers have kept before me". In a rage, Olaf struck her with a glove, and Sigrid calmly told him, "This may some day be thy death".  Sigrid then proceeded to create a coalition of his enemies to bring about his downfall. She allied Sweden with Denmark, marrying the widower Sweyn Forkbeard who had already been feuding with Olaf. Swein had sent his sister Tyri to marry the Wendish king Burislav, who had been father of Swein's first wife, Gunhild. Tyri fled and married Olaf, goading him into conflict with her brother, while Sigrid inflamed Swein against her former suitor. This shared animosity would lead to the Battle of Swold, in which Olaf fell."  Lagartha the shieldmaiden was pretty rad too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagertha "Impressed with her courage, Ragnar courted her from afar. Lagertha feigned interest and Ragnar arrived to seek her hand, bidding his companions wait in the Gaular valley. He was set upon by a bear and a great hound which Lagertha had guarding her home, but killed the bear with his spear and choked the hound to death. Thus he won the hand of Lagertha in marriage." "but upon returning to Denmark was again faced with a civil war. He sent to Norway for support, and Lagertha, who still loved him, came to his aid with 120 ships, according to Saxo.[2] When at the height of the battle, Ragnar's son Siward was wounded, Lagertha saved the day for Ragnar with a counterattack: "Ladgerda, who had a matchless spirit though a delicate frame, covered by her splendid bravery the inclination of the soldiers to waver. For she made a sally about, and flew round to the rear of the enemy, taking them unawares, and thus turned the panic of her friends into the camp of the enemy."" "Upon returning to Norway, she quarreled with her husband, and slew him with a spearhead she concealed in her gown. Saxo concludes that she then "usurped the whole of his name and sovereignty; for this most presumptuous dame thought it pleasanter to rule without her husband than to share the throne with him"." Also, someone should totally mod in this decision/execution style for some Blot Variety: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle "It was performed by cutting the ribs of the victim by the spine, breaking the ribs so they resembled blood-stained wings, and pulling the lungs out through the wounds in the victim's back. Salt was sprinkled in the wounds."
Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jun 7, 2013 |
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:05
|
|
|
Is there an overflow problem or whatever with Prestige? I've been spending the last few years or so tearing this two-duchy Duke's demesne/realm since he has random counties and baronies everywhere, plus a successful invasion of Sweden (that didn't get him the crown so he still remained as my vassal). After revoking one of his duchies and 2 or so counties through the revokation plot + free traitor revokation, I noticed by 18k prestige went down to 9k, and it's like exactly 10k prestige vanished since the 9k would've been the right amount after all my wars with him.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:16
|
|
|
toasterwarrior posted:Is there an overflow problem or whatever with Prestige? I've been spending the last few years or so tearing this two-duchy Duke's demesne/realm since he has random counties and baronies everywhere, plus a successful invasion of Sweden (that didn't get him the crown so he still remained as my vassal). After revoking one of his duchies and 2 or so counties through the revokation plot + free traitor revokation, I noticed by 18k prestige went down to 9k, and it's like exactly 10k prestige vanished since the 9k would've been the right amount after all my wars with him. Not that I've seen - that sounds like you may have broken a truce, as that halves your prestige.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:23
|
|
|
Trauma Tank posted:Not that I've seen - that sounds like you may have broken a truce, as that halves your prestige. poo poo, you're right. Activating the plot didn't warn me, but I guess I ought to credit that to Paradox for anticipating my antics.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:35
|
|
|
Kol, my daughter-heir's husband, formed a company of soldiers to go carve himself and his wife their own piece of land. I respected that, like you do, with the caveat that my daughter return to her birthright. When I next checked in on Kol, he was on the other side of Europe as a courtier for a duke on the fringe of Italy. He hated the Duke. Why? THE DUKE HAD BLINDED HIM. This makes the prompt I got when informed they were leaving to carve out their own piece of land being 'Good luck with that.' even better, somehow. (I invite them both back to my court. They accepted.) Edit: Kol is now my spymaster because he still has 19 intrigue even while blind.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:47
|
|
|
Ofaloaf posted:Imperator works. The Romans never really did settle on a single title. Caesar's best suited for prince, imo, since later on that was the title given to the sub-emperor who was going to wear the purple after the current emperor's death. 'Vicarius' might work for king or duke level if you were trying to go for a later Roman feel, but that title only really works within the Roman Empire-- 'Rex' would work better for a king-level Roman independent of the Empire for whatever reason. 'Dux' and 'Comes' are direct translations of duke and count, respectively, but if you want to get finicky there's several ways you could go.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 15:53
|
|
|
So what would be the greek equivalents of counts, dukes, kings, and emps?
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:04
|
|
|
CapnAndy posted:'Princeps'. The Emperor's title was Princeps. That was one of them, and apparently only for a couple hundred years. If you're looking for one title, go with Augustus.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:05
|
|
|
CapnAndy posted:'Princeps'. The Emperor's title was Princeps.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:06
|
|
|
Schizotek posted:So what would be the greek equivalents of counts, dukes, kings, and emps? Tank Sinatra posted:That was one of them, and apparently only for a couple hundred years. If you're looking for one title, go with Augustus. Morholt posted:But from the 3rd century on it was Dominus.  Princeps is badass, it just means First Citizen. Augustus had so much loving power he got to pretend he didn't have any power at all.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:10
|
|
|
So I've managed to take over Norway as the jarls of Iceland, and scattered my dynasty all over the kingdom by revoking the various upstart vassals who dared to revolt against their new Icelandic kings. While the kingdom is now no longer in any danger of fracturing due to Gavelkind, my successor was a sort of weakling who had to abdicate the throne to his younger brother, and is now living out his days in the family's ancestral home in Vestisland, as a vassal of the High Chief of Iceland. The dynasty is safe as Kings of Norway, but I'd still like to work back up to being a king again. How should I start? I've never actually stabbed my way to victory before, I'd always done it through declaring independence and working my way back through conquest. Pimpmust posted:Also, someone should totally mod in this decision/execution style for some Blot Variety: I can do that! How about a special decision if you have a prisoner and are zealous/cruel/wroth/impaler ? Sort of the Viking version of the Byzantine castrate/blind.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:15
|
|
|
Retried another 867 Romuva start with the beta patch. Surprise, it's doable, and actually quite fun. Start out as Lithuania (House of Palemonaitis). Keep your chancellor on the duchy of Zemaitja or however you spell it, and keep your ally's opinion of you high. Then drag him into all of your wars and steamroll all the costal Lithuania cores before the Norse get them. Then say gently caress you to your ally and subjugate his gullible rear end. Form Lithuania and push to Bryansk ASAP before the Russians get any stronger. I managed to form Lithuania in my first dude's lifetime, but I got bumped down to duke of Lithuania in the first succession crisis, which ended up in favor of my infant brother. Like most of my problems, this was solved with a sharp knife and a little cash  Once you grab all the holy sites, you're pretty much unstoppable. I had four prepared invasions sent against me and those didn't even put a dent in me. Another tip, don't execute invaders; banish them. You get ~400 gold each time for your batshit insane merc slush fund.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:16
|
|
|
Hot Dog Day #82 posted:A Steam only beta patch? The tears over at the Paradox forums must be over following "Thanks for supporting gamersgate purchases guys. Unbelievable. Steam giving you guys kick-backs too?" patchthread.txt
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:17
|
|
|
It kind of depends on what time period we're talking about, especially as far as the lower offices go. I mean, quaestor and consul and all that crap - those weren't the important offices past a fairly early point. As for the Emperor himself, Augustus is the one term that covers all of them. From Augustus to Diocletian to Heraclius, they all called themselves Augustus (Greek equivalent Sebastos, although it looks like Basileus supplants that at some point). It's a better, more inclusive title than Imperator or Princeps or whatever.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:17
|
|
|
CapnAndy posted:I don't know greek, but the Roman equivalent should be Quaestor, Praetor, Consul, Princeps. Random google source is telling me, from baron to emp, Hippotis, Komis, Archon, Vasilefs, and Basileus. Anyone with a schmidgen of greek historical knowledge wanna tell me how terrible these are? e: I'm also getting "Anax" for king. Schizotek fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jun 7, 2013 |
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:23
|
|
|
Tank Sinatra posted:It kind of depends on what time period we're talking about, especially as far as the lower offices go. I mean, quaestor and consul and all that crap - those weren't the important offices past a fairly early point. poo poo son, I need a list of stuff to toss into text files until my game breaks. I have no idea what I'm doing, but dammit, I'm going to conquer Europe as the Romans one way or another. One thing I can't bullshit my way through though, is graphics. Like CoAs, kingdom sigils, empire sigils, trait emblems. I suppose the Mediterranean faces are what a Roman Culture would use?
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:24
|
|
|
Oh god it looks like the Seljuks decided to ape the golden horde instead of smashing themselves against the gigantic caliphate.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:34
|
|
|
Okay, my first PC has become the king of Norway and Sweden, and controls three of the five Norse holy sites. I want to reform paganism, but I don't have the 50% church authority. How do I improve that?
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:35
|
|
|
Annath posted:poo poo son, I need a list of stuff to toss into text files until my game breaks. I have no idea what I'm doing, but dammit, I'm going to conquer Europe as the Romans one way or another. I would just go with the default Christian CoA for now, unless you want to make your life difficult. Hopefully someone who isn't poo poo at graphical design can whip up some toga clothing for the portraits. Also, Roman culture is already in the game (with Mediterranean faces  ) and has a lot of names/etc. I can crap up some specific traits or shields if you want!
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:36
|
|
|
Is there a way to keep what I conquer? I caused enough civil wars in Scotland that they could field about 500 guys, so I went in and occupied half the country. When I accepted peace, though, I only got the one county I had challenged for. I'm finding it problematic to casus belli "Claim Scotland" since they only have male toddlers running the place.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:38
|
|
|
uh zip zoom posted:Okay, my first PC has become the king of Norway and Sweden, and controls three of the five Norse holy sites. I want to reform paganism, but I don't have the 50% church authority. How do I improve that? Schizotek fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jun 7, 2013 |
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 06:10 |
|
|
I think Paradox may have already chosen "Augustus" doing a little digging around the history files.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2013 16:44
|
|
