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Has there ever been a traditional family sitcom anyway? Most of the comedy in family sitcoms is due to wacky family members.
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Don't worry, transfolk. The straight white cismen have arrived. Everything is under control. You may now relax, safe in the knowledge that the straight white cismen are on the case! Look, I can hear them coming now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-JHfXVlkik I do so hope they're reassured by that! I'm reassured...
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Jun 7, 2013 18:54
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Trin Tragula posted:Don't worry, transfolk. The straight white cismen have arrived. Everything is under control. You may now relax, safe in the knowledge that the straight white cismen are on the case! Look, I can hear them coming now! How do you know they are straight/white/cis?
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Jun 7, 2013 19:10
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I believe one of them is gay, to be fair.
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Jun 7, 2013 19:24
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I thought you guys and gals would enjoy this article...
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Jun 7, 2013 19:36
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:How do you know they are straight/white/cis? They work for the BBC in a writing capacity.
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Jun 7, 2013 19:46
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Pablo Bluth posted:I thought you guys and gals would enjoy this article... This is insufferable.
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Jun 7, 2013 20:36
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cis? Also, Chris Packham saying "jizz" (G.I.S.S - general impression of size and shape) on Springwatch a number of times amused me far too much.
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Jun 7, 2013 20:44
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WastedJoker posted:cis? Opposite of trans. A cisgendered male is a born male who identifies as male.
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Jun 7, 2013 20:48
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Xachariah posted:Has there ever been a traditional family sitcom anyway? Most of the comedy in family sitcoms is due to wacky family members.
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Jun 7, 2013 23:48
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HERAK posted:2.4 Children was mostly normal if memory serves. The wackiness was from the neighbours i think. Nah, the wackiness came almost always from the father. The only neighbour was Rhona, the man hungry stereotype. Don't think there ever has been a 'normal nuclear 50s family' sitcom here in the UK since Alf Garnett or similar shows in the 1960s. You are hard pressed finding any kids really in UK sitcoms in the 70s/80s, the 'kid' roles were usually morphed into adults like the two lodgers in Rising Damp. My Family would probably be the only comparable one, as theres two kids, the 'wackiness' came from their house guest staying with them.
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Jun 8, 2013 02:20
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happyhippy posted:My Family would probably be the only comparable one, as theres two kids, the 'wackiness' came from their house guest staying with them. You're forgetting the wacky eldest child (because they had three children) when My Family hadn't outlived its welcome, who then did BT adverts, Nick
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Jun 8, 2013 02:32
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onoflalks posted:You're forgetting the wacky eldest child (because they had three children) when My Family hadn't outlived its welcome, who then did BT adverts, Nick You've sure written a sentence there. Anyway, those adverts are now about Nick's adopted daughter and her uni friends. I hope that she'll get it together with the cool one, but doesn't let that get between her friendship with the nebbishy one.
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Jun 8, 2013 10:15
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Luther series 3 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5yY7MOUKIs
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Jun 8, 2013 10:27
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:Opposite of trans. A cisgendered male is a born male who identifies as male. Ohhhhhh, just say normal.
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Jun 8, 2013 13:55
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WastedJoker posted:Ohhhhhh, just say normal. That's transphobic, because it implies that trans* people aren't "normal" which is mean.
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Jun 8, 2013 14:19
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twoot posted:Luther series 3 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5yY7MOUKIs Aaaahhhh! Oh, happy, happy day. I've missed Idris Elba smiling beautifully, and then flinging men off of high-rise flats.
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Jun 8, 2013 14:43
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:That's transphobic, because it implies that trans* people aren't "normal" which is mean. (I love scare quotes)
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Jun 8, 2013 15:30
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Xachariah posted:Has there ever been a traditional family sitcom anyway? Most of the comedy in family sitcoms is due to wacky family members. What about Butterflies? From what I remember, that had a typical family, with none of the members being particularly wacky. Although I do remember it being slightly dark and depressing, also.
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Jun 8, 2013 16:39
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Since we occasionally talk about radio here, I'll just say: Radio 4 has a forthcoming prog that goes by The Zeitgeistists, which I thought for sure would be the title of a comedy. Nope, it's genuinely about people who form the zeitgeist and work in the media. loving hell.
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Jun 8, 2013 19:42
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:That's transphobic, because it implies that trans* people aren't "normal" which is mean. And true (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 8, 2013 22:53
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:That's transphobic, because it implies that trans* people aren't "normal" which is mean. I have no issue whatsoever with anyone in the LGBT community, and others, but pretending that it's a "normal" / "default" setting is just silly. Accepting them with open arms, absolutely, but it's no use pretending that "CIS" people aren't a standard majority. (On the other hand, I suppose in a sense it's no different to being called straight but I am rather bored of seeing cis used as some kind of reverse-derogatory term. I can see my own trans, post-op friend stays away from being a part of any kind of community)
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Jun 8, 2013 23:05
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hermand posted:I have no issue whatsoever with anyone in the LGBT community, and others, but pretending that it's a "normal" / "default" setting is just silly. Accepting them with open arms, absolutely, but it's no use pretending that "CIS" people aren't a standard majority. The problem with referring to cissexuals as "normal" is that it means that transsexuals aren't normal. Normality is all relative anyway, but people do get offended if they are basically being called abnormal for not fitting into the privileged white male cis white straight male first world thin male white male category.
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Jun 8, 2013 23:12
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hermand posted:I have no issue whatsoever with anyone in the LGBT community, and others, but pretending that it's a "normal" / "default" setting is just silly. Accepting them with open arms, absolutely, but it's no use pretending that "CIS" people aren't a standard majority. Well it's nice to see you put your "boredom" ahead of not making trans people feel unwelcome. It is an utterly trivial shift in language to make, and has the advantage of both being accurate and non-dehumanising.
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Jun 8, 2013 23:12
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hermand posted:I have no issue whatsoever with anyone in the LGBT community, and others, but pretending that it's a "normal" / "default" setting is just silly. Accepting them with open arms, absolutely, but it's no use pretending that "CIS" people aren't a standard majority. There's a difference between saying 'cis isn't an important word' and 'cis is a derogatory word'. Most of the time people aren't referred to as cis for the same reason most of the time people aren't referred to as heterosexual. But when you're having discussion involving transsexuality it makes sense to use the word cis just because it's a whole lot shorter way of saying 'people who aren't trans'
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Jun 8, 2013 23:13
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So since a majority of people are White in the UK, anything else is "abnormal"? People shouldn't be called White because they're just "normal"? The sudden transphobia in this thread is disgusting. Cisgender is simply a descriptive term, and boo-loving-hoo for you if you're offended by being described as that.
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Jun 8, 2013 23:21
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I was taught using labels for anyone was a pretty silly thing and cheapens everyone involved. Also, what the gently caress has this now to do with our lovely year of telly?
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Jun 8, 2013 23:23
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SeanBeansShako posted:I was taught using labels for anyone was a pretty silly thing and cheapens everyone involved. Because the lovely year of telly has produced some lovely patronising trans* comedies. I am looking forward to the unique new sitcom about the wacky family.
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Jun 8, 2013 23:29
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SeanBeansShako posted:I was taught using labels for anyone was a pretty silly thing and cheapens everyone involved. I think you're confusing labels and slurs. Without labels we wouldn't even be able to point to someone and say "that's my mother".
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Jun 8, 2013 23:31
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Jesus christ, we have "cis" for the same reason we have "straight". And the same arguments used to get trotted out for using "straight", and especially for using "heterosexual".
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Jun 8, 2013 23:35
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There's a pretty good BBC4 documentary on iPlayer about clockwork and automata. If you're like me and were never quite capable of colouring inside the lines, there are some seriously tiny mechanics to have anxiety dreams about.
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Jun 8, 2013 23:50
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goatface posted:There's a pretty good BBC4 documentary on iPlayer about clockwork and automata. If you're like me and were never quite capable of colouring inside the lines, there are some seriously tiny mechanics to have anxiety dreams about. Excellent documentary, and it's extraordinary to see that machines of such amazing complexity was was being made in 1750 or thereabouts, but Lord, some of the automata dolls gave me the screaming meemies. Especially the little boy doll who writes; I think it was the horribly realistic way he gave his quill a wee shake to clear it of excess ink after dipping it in the inkpot.
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Jun 9, 2013 00:34
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That thing was pretty loving creepy, but I would love to have the chance to play with one. I'd be far too eager to dismantle the entire thing though, so it's probably best I don't.
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Jun 9, 2013 01:01
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SeanBeansShako posted:I was taught using labels for anyone was a pretty silly thing and cheapens everyone involved. So you don't believe in calling people straight, gay, black, white, British, American, young, old..? I don't think you've thought that sentence through. hermand posted:I am rather bored of seeing cis used as some kind of reverse-derogatory term. If boredom's the worst you've felt about someone insulting the fundamentals of your identity, count yourself loving lucky. Jonnty fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Jun 9, 2013 03:25
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SeanBeansShako posted:Also, what the gently caress has this now to do with our lovely year of telly?
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Jun 9, 2013 05:58
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FreakyZoid posted:Because it's impossible to believe that cis people wrote better comedy scripts about trans characters than trans writers did, apparently. Since when does the BBC's high opinion of a script reflect quality?
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Jun 9, 2013 07:43
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My wife and I watched 'The Fall' last night. It's like Prime Suspect mixed with The Killing. Gillian Anderson puts in a good shift and its fun spotting all the hollyoaks actors. It's a watch IMO.
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Jun 9, 2013 07:53
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:The problem with referring to cissexuals as "normal" is that it means that transsexuals aren't normal. Normality is all relative anyway, but people do get offended if they are basically being called abnormal for not fitting into the privileged white male cis white straight male first world thin male white male category. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Jun 9, 2013 10:31
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The Returned/Les Revenants starts on C4 tonight.
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Jun 9, 2013 12:48
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Pissflaps posted:My wife and I watched 'The Fall' last night. It's like Prime Suspect mixed with The Killing. Gillian Anderson puts in a good shift and its fun spotting all the hollyoaks actors. It's a watch IMO. Would it be fun for someone who hasn't watched Hollyoaks?
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