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Not a bad issue. But did I miss something really obvious - where did all the gems come from? I gotta admit I ain't been paying much attention to the last arc, it was a bit of a mess. And did the gauntlet make it so banner can talk when he's hulk now or did I miss something else? And is Kang a woman in the UU or was it just weird art?
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krakagar posted:Not a bad issue. But did I miss something really obvious - where did all the gems come from? I gotta admit I ain't been paying much attention to the last arc, it was a bit of a mess. And did the gauntlet make it so banner can talk when he's hulk now or did I miss something else? And is Kang a woman in the UU or was it just weird art? The gems first appearance was during Humphries run by way of Thor's son. They were not explained. This issue is the first we've been given some sort of origin/rational for the gems. Not sure either way about Hulk. Kang appears to be a woman. This would also be the first appearance of Ultimate Kang (I think).
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Jun 6, 2013 11:53
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I wonder how they keep getting people to voluntarily work on the Triskelion.
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Jun 7, 2013 03:55
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Wanderer posted:I wonder how they keep getting people to voluntarily work on the Triskelion. Did it blow up again? I imagine that in the ultimate universe the draft is in effect 24/7.
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Jun 7, 2013 03:57
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It's not like every other building in the Ultimate Universe isn't exploding all the time. The Triskelion is probably one of the least explodable ones, really.
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Wanderer posted:I wonder how they keep getting people to voluntarily work on the Triskelion. The same way they get people on a Helicarrier in 616: ??? Maybe S.H.I.E.L.D Agents get some sort of unreal bonus if they can work a year on the base and survive. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jun 7, 2013 |
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Jun 7, 2013 04:11
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TwoPair posted:The same way they get people on a Helicarrier in 616: ??? It wouldn't shock me if
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Jun 7, 2013 04:21
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TwoPair posted:The same way they get people on a Helicarrier in 616: ??? The weird thing about the Helicarrier is that SHIELD agents are the redshirts of the MU, but their shirts aren't so red that you can't understand why people would sign up for the gig. They're like the fine wine of red shirts; when SHIELD agents are getting carved up by the dozen, poo poo's gotten pretty real! The Triskelion, on the other hand, only seems to be the setting of meetings and massacres. There's a line in today's Ultimates that's got Cap or Nick saying to Hulk something like "That's another five thousand lives on your head," and it's hard not to read the line as being delivered with a real sense of resignation and irritation. "You just killed another five thousand people, rear end. Nice one."
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Jun 7, 2013 05:09
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krakagar posted:And did the gauntlet make it so banner can talk when he's hulk now or did I miss something else? Hulk's always been able to speak in Ultimate Universe since he's less "green anger monster" and more "Banner's repressed id."
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Jun 7, 2013 15:35
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And even if he couldn't before, the god-making power gauntlets he's wearing would probably allow it
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Jun 7, 2013 16:42
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I've read a lot of evil Reeds but goddamn if this one isn't the creepiest. Ha, and I just noticed that he uses the Gauntlet to change into his Children Of Tomorrow costume. What, did they dress him in his old F4 costume in prison just to take the piss?
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Jun 7, 2013 23:19
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Wachter posted:I've read a lot of evil Reeds but goddamn if this one isn't the creepiest. Yeah, I'm really digging Ultimates right now. I'm- still a little confused about how Spider-Man fits into this what with its whole... one year forwards.
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Sion posted:Yeah, I'm really digging Ultimates right now. I'm- still a little confused about how Spider-Man fits into this what with its whole... one year forwards. Ultimates and X-Men aren't tying in with Spider-Man's one year forward.
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Jun 8, 2013 17:41
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Genetic Toaster posted:Ultimates and X-Men aren't tying in with Spider-Man's one year forward. Well- the fact that we don't see pictures of President Hulk or some poo poo implies that the whole Disassembled thing doesn't have any lasting impact. 
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Sion posted:Well- the fact that we don't see pictures of President Hulk or some poo poo implies that the whole Disassembled thing doesn't have any lasting impact. Wait...President Hulk? Did someone finally let Jeph Loeb continue his ideas from A+X 1? Yeah, I know it was President Red Hulk.
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Sion posted:Well- the fact that we don't see pictures of President Hulk or some poo poo implies that the whole Disassembled thing doesn't have any lasting impact. Did that happen? I mean does that mean at a certain point all the major SH's will be president?
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Jun 8, 2013 20:18
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No, I'm kidding about President Hulk. Just because of the gauntlet I was like 'what's the dumbest poo poo that could possibly happen?' I think it says a lot about the state of the Ultimates line where that is something people have to stop and ask 'did this happen?'
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Jun 8, 2013 20:49
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Sion posted:No, I'm kidding about President Hulk. Just because of the gauntlet I was like 'what's the dumbest poo poo that could possibly happen?' Eh hasn't everyone been President in some Marvel comic at one point or another.
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Jun 8, 2013 21:49
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The more I think about it the more I'd love to see President Hulk. HULK PHILIBUSTER
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Sion posted:The more I think about it the more I'd love to see President Hulk. Well you are in luck: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l265/YaYaTu/paperwork.jpg Incredible Hulk #85
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One thing I'm a little confused about: I thought The City was still around, but Reed just got kicked out of it because the City decided his little vendetta was holding back its evolution. But Quicksilver was running through it like it was a ruin. Did I miss something or misread something somewhere?
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TwoPair posted:One thing I'm a little confused about : I thought The City was still around, but Reed just got kicked out of it because the City decided his little vendetta was holding back its evolution. But Quicksilver was running through it like it was a ruin. Did I miss something or misread something somewhere? Parts of it were destroyed when the US launched a bunch of missiles at it.
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Genetic Toaster posted:Ultimates and X-Men aren't tying in with Spider-Man's one year forward. Eventually they will. gfanikf posted:Wait...President Hulk? Did someone finally let Jeph Loeb continue his ideas from A+X 1? Yeah, I know it was President Red Hulk. Jeph Loen hasn't written an Ultimate Comic title in 2 years. Sion posted:I think it says a lot about the state of the Ultimates line where that is something people have to stop and ask 'did this happen?' Ultimate Captain America was the logical conclusion for the character. The writer who did it just executed it poorly TwoPair posted:One thing I'm a little confused about : I thought The City was still around, but Reed just got kicked out of it because the City decided his little vendetta was holding back its evolution. But Quicksilver was running through it like it was a ruin. Did I miss something or misread something somewhere? I think Fialkolv decided that all of America's nukes hitting the City should have consequences. Kaleidoscope posted:The gems first appearance was during Humphries run by way of Thor's son. They were not explained. This issue is the first we've been given some sort of origin/rational for the gems. Not sure either way about Hulk. The mind gem was the product of Odin tricking some giant or something. This is Ultimate Kang's first ever appearance.
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thet0wer posted:Eventually they will. All of them? I thought that city was just the size of a European country? That is overkill by a bit I think. Edit: Also I think it was Eastern Europe, which means writers loving hate the EE. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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gfanikf posted:Eh hasn't everyone been President in some Marvel comic at one point or another. Captain America in Ultimates and some what ifs, maybe Dr Doom and Tony Stark in some others, though off-screen, and Red Skull in Old Man Logan. Other than that, nope.
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Osborne was VP in End of Days. I just re-read Miles' series and I picked up on stuff I didn't before. 42 seems to play a large role in the book. Does anyone else think Miles' dad was busted by a superhero and that's why he hates them?
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Lurdiak posted:Captain America in Ultimates and some what ifs, maybe Dr Doom and Tony Stark in some others, though off-screen, and Red Skull in Old Man Logan. Other than that, nope. Doom in 2099. notthegoatseguy posted:Osborne was VP in End of Days. That makes a lot of sense. For maximum dramatic irony I hope it was Spider-Man. Maybe he was Ultimate Big Wheel.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Osborne was VP in End of Days. That was so loving dumb.
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Lurdiak posted:Captain America in Ultimates and some what ifs, maybe Dr Doom and Tony Stark in some others, though off-screen, and Red Skull in Old Man Logan. Other than that, nope. Thor in Ultimate FF, and in 1602 Purple Man
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I think Reed was a president in some Universe. And he was, indeed, corrupt and evil.
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CharlestheHammer posted:All of them? I thought that city was just the size of a European country? That is overkill by a bit I think. Yes, they used all of them. Also, where the City was exactly was never clarified.
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thet0wer posted:Also, where the City was exactly was never clarified. It started off in Germany.
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It started off in Germany and they claimed it took tens of millions of lives. It was also implied that all of the European defensive forces were wiped out before Shield mustered their first big attack on the city Of course, I must assume the city had taken all of Europe by then though because if the entire American arsenal of nukes is launched and detonated in the heart of Europe it would all be destroyed by the fallout. Or they were just willing to risk 700 million people to take out Reeds city Zzulu fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jun 11, 2013 |
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Zzulu posted:It started off in Germany and they claimed it took tens of millions of lives. It was also implied that all of the European defensive forces were wiped out before Shield mustered their first big attack on the city Except May and Gwen were shown to be living large in France not long thereafter.
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I thought the idea of "all the nukes" was that The City would stop a lot of them.
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thet0wer posted:Except May and Gwen were shown to be living large in France not long thereafter. That was before.
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So, I got a really weird itch a few months back to read everything in the Ultimate universe from the very beginning through Ultimatum (and also Ultimate X, Doomsday, and anything Spider-Man up through the Death of Spider-Man). Well, I have managed to complete this daunting task. I just finished the whole Death of Spider-Man and Fallout. There isn't a  big enough to describe my feelings on Death of Spider-Man. What a way for the character to go out. I'm thinking of continuing with the new Spider-Man stuff, and maybe X-Men. I'm pretty sure I'll like Spider-Man, since I really dig Bendis's writing, but I'm not sure about X-Men. I like Kitty Pryde, Iceman, and Human Torch, but I'm not familiar with the creative team they have on that book. Anyone have opinions on that one?
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The first issue or two of post-Death of Spider-Man Ultimate Comics: X-Men are kind of okay, but they set up a zillion sub-plots that are barely mentioned again. Then the book gets dragged even further off track with a universe wide event and Kitty, Iceman, and Human Torch actually don't even appear for several issues. The current creative team, which started at issue 13, decided to ignore almost everything the book previously established and dealt with Kitty and Iceman and kind of abandoned Human Torch in NYC. Personally, I think the book had a huge hole to dig out from and I don't think any writer could do it. So I'm not reading it any longer.
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Lurdiak posted:That was before. No it wasn't. And with regards to X-Men, Spencer was setting up a 50+ run that was cut short at 12 issues because it was "moving too slow", a complaint partially informed by the hate-boner that some people have for Spencer.
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