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stab posted:I never noticed it or heard of it and I work a street away from it fwiw. buuutttt its around an anglo institution that was known to cater to the elite, the bourgeoisie and the writers so again it might have definetely been something that caught the authors eyes... Both of the National Lampoon authors were from Canada and at least one of them (Sean Kelly) was from Montreal. I can't find where they went to school but National Lampoon was founded by Harvard students, and Preiss also went to an Ivy League school. This is really just speculation but they could have had elite connections, and all of them are Anglo.
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stab posted:also crazy thing I just noticed (can google maps confirm?) but there looks to be four ridges near the top of the dudes hat. can those ridges not be a mountain, but actually the outline of "le monstre" (its the wooden rollercoaster at La Ronde) and is still there to this day (and its an awesome coaster too! Wow, dude, it doesn't even have to be a literal outline of Le Monstre's silhouette! That park has multiple roller coasters, so the roller coaster silhouette on that side of his hat is probably just be there as a hint that that side of the analogous island has an amusement park on it! Whether or not that's a literal outline of a roller coaster, I totally buy that it's a suggestion of a roller coaster. I feel like you guys are getting super close. I'm not sure if I buy all of the verse hints Merlot Brougham matched up to Place des Nations, but it definitely fits these lines: Here is a sovereign people Quebecois, duh! Who build palaces to shelter Their heads for a night! Place des Nations, a large, outdoor structure designed for night-time events! I know that Quebec isn't literally sovereign, but I mean, they're independent enough to have an actual sovereignty movement. It's a reasonable description of French Canadians.
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Le Monstre wasn't built until 85.
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MONTREALCronoGamer posted:I definitely agree with the hands possibly being the CA from the sculpture. It's been tough to try and figure out what the weird pose of the fingers is (I've even gone as far as recreating the pose of the fingers with my own hands to try and see what it looked like in real life... that gnome has creepy-long fingers, btw), and although the C and A don't really JUMP out at you, I can definitely see it. I'm not really seeing it as far as the nose goes though. This leaves me optimistic that I'm just not seeing pictures of the sculpture from the correct angle. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=1c9f8bfd539a28a797510e28e09566a2 Also, notice the mouthlines, and the teardrop segment on the base of the sculpture and the way it tapers toward the top. I posted a shabby comparison earlier, but again I think a view from a different angle may produce better results. Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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MassaShowtime posted:Le Monstre wasn't built until 85. yup, youre right. google map if we can see mount royal from any of the four directions?
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ohnorobot posted:I talked to someone who knows land surveying, he said a good, non invasive way to find something underground without digging or dragging in some kind of sonar, you build a probe: just a long thin "T" shaped length of metal that you shove into the ground till you hit something solid. This is pretty much exactly what I was already planning to do. The question is where do you get the metal?
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:This is pretty much exactly what I was already planning to do. You can get lengths of metal rod at home depot.
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MassaShowtime posted:Le Monstre wasn't built until 85. In 1982, there were two functional roller coasters at La Ronde: Les Montagnes Russes - An old steel roller coaster that was torn down to make room for Le Monstre (it operated from 1968 to 1984). Super Manège - A relatively modern steel roller coaster that opened in 1981 (it's still operational). As I said, I don't think it needs to be a silhouette of a specific roller coaster. I think this guy nailed it just by calling that it looks like a silhouette of a roller coaster on the side of the gnome dude's floppy hat that corresponds to the location of the La Ronde amusement park. I mean honestly, this debate is kind of academic anyway. The cask isn't buried next to a roller coaster or a mountain. It looks like these guys are zeroing in on their target at Place des Nations. Whatever the wrinkle in the hat represents is probably just meant to reassure you that you're on the right island.
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Charleston / Cask 2 I've only been to Charleston a couple of times, but aren't there lots of statues of lions on the steps of important buildings? Also the manacled fairy to me, and the lines about "fair remuneration" suggest something to do with the slave exchange. Isn't there a tourist spot marking a former slave marketplace? If this thread gets enough traction, I think you might do well to make a separate thread for each cask, to make it easier to keep track of the one you're most interested in.
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MassaShowtime posted:You can get lengths of metal rod at home depot. Or if you want to order online, McMaster-Carr or Online Metal Store are pretty good. http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=18006&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1277&top_cat=60 e: Actually, shipping will probably eat any savings there unless you buy a lot. Home Depot has what you need. I'm used to ordering this stuff in big quantities for lab work This thread is fantastic reading, by the way. Frinkahedron fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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NYC I skimmed the thread looking through the NYC posts and I have a suggestion that I don't think was mentioned yet. What if the grey giant is the "great gray bridge" from the book The Little Red Lighthouse. For those of you unfamiliar with the book, it's the story of Jeffrey’s Hook lighthouse and the building of the George Washington Bridge over it. I took a look at Google maps and the arches on the top and bottom of the bridge match the arch in the pic. The river would be the water and on the lighthouse side of the river there is a large section of tennis courts that could be the rectangle in the bottom left panel (though I'm not sure how old they are). You would hear cars nearby and in the summer, since you're in/near woods, you would hear a "whirring sound" being made by cicadas. I know there is an old fort nearby, but I'm not sure about statues or Native American settlements. Also the sign might refer to one of the signs on the bridge? But I'm not sure what signs are on the bridge, as I haven't been through the area in a long time.
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Bard posted:Charleston / Cask 2 There is Slave Mart Museum, which is in an old slave mart building. Not sure if it was a museum when this book was written or not.
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TotalHell posted:There is Slave Mart Museum, which is in an old slave mart building. Not sure if it was a museum when this book was written or not. It's been a museum for forever but I think it was closed during most of the 80's (could be wrong). There's not really a park nearby or anywhere that's an obvious place to bury stuff. My bet is that it's near the "white stone" with the 3 and the inverted 2 in Fort Moultrie.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's been a museum for forever but I think it was closed during most of the 80's (could be wrong). There's not really a park nearby or anywhere that's an obvious place to bury stuff. You might be able to speak to this: I was just reading an article that mentioned the Battery area has a bit of a lion theme going on, with lion statues, lion heads covering earthquake bolts, and lion faces in iron fences. Do you know if this is the case? Might be a big clue.
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Autumn2May posted:NYC I suggested that very thing last page, along with some possibilities for "Indies native" and "man of Hard word". I had considered cicadas as a possibility for the whirring sound - also perhaps air conditioners. Great minds think alike.
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TotalHell posted:You might be able to speak to this: I was just reading an article that mentioned the Battery area has a bit of a lion theme going on, with lion statues, lion heads covering earthquake bolts, and lion faces in iron fences. Do you know if this is the case? Might be a big clue. Eh, sortof. It's probably worth having someone wander around downtown with a camera and photograph anything they see that's vaguely lion shaped. There are a few houses etc. that have lion statues but I'm not sure anything that's coherent enough to be an obvious clue.
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justsomedude posted:NEW ORLEANS Haha, so when I wrote all of this stuff, I didn't realize you found that flag pole in Audubon Park instead of Louis Armstrong Park, so now I feel a little bit less confident in my dig instructions. Preservation Hall is miles away from Audubon Park, whereas I'd been thinking blocks (because I was still thinking about Louis Armstrong Park). I see some interesting theories connecting Verse 7 to Audubon Park, but what about the image? What's with the weird mask that looks somewhat like the statue of Louis Armstrong in Louis Armstrong Park? What's with the fact that the weird hand holding the mask, taken together with the mask, looks like a rough map of parts of Louis Armstrong Park, maybe? What's with that whole crazy part of the image? Basically, I felt like all of the stars were aligned when I thought that flag pole was at Louis Armstrong Park, but now I feel like this is just another theory that makes some of the pieces fit while leaves a bunch of others dangling. So take my dig map with a grain of salt, I guess. Chilled Cactus fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Deteriorata posted:I suggested that very thing last page, along with some possibilities for "Indies native" and "man of Hard word". I had considered cicadas as a possibility for the whirring sound - also perhaps air conditioners. Oops missed your post, I must have been skimming too fast. Every time I cross the bridge I think of that book, so the bridge was the first thing I thought of when I saw grey giant linked with NYC. Still need to find more clues, but you're right, I think this has possibilities.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Eh, sortof. It's probably worth having someone wander around downtown with a camera and photograph anything they see that's vaguely lion shaped. There are a few houses etc. that have lion statues but I'm not sure anything that's coherent enough to be an obvious clue. There's a fairly thorough Charleston walking tour online with pictures that offers lots of history and details about downtown. It also mentions lion heads on the First Bank of the Carolinas or whatever the building is called. Basically trying to find any lions I can at this point.
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MontrealMerlot Brougham posted:Cask 9 - Montreal, Verse 2 I've been working on a similar theory today with a neat twist on the "sovereign people" bit. At the place where jewels abound - The place where the cask is has... Fifteen rows down to the ground - 15 wide rows from top to ground In the middle of twenty-one - 21 stairs on each side of the rows This really seems like it has to be the starting point! I did a rough count of the middle rows and I got 12 -- half of 21 rounded up -- but it wasn't a good photo and I may have miscounted. I think you're spot on, though! From end to end I actually took this to mean going to the other end of the Place du Nations. Only three stand watch - Three sets of stands I was thinking that from SE part of the stadium you could see Man if it was where we thought it was in 1982. It would be cool if you could, as that would tie it in even closer to the solution and give the fingers in the picture some importance. Aside from the "CA" theory I don't recall much discussion about them. Honestly, though, your solution seems better than mine! As the sound of friends - Expo logo represents "Friendship Around the world" according to the official guidebook Fills the afternoon hours - Around the world Yay! Everyone is getting along! Enemies become friends, blah blah blah. Wouldn't it be neat if there was a little sliver of contrast to this? Here is a sovereign people Who build palaces to shelter Their heads for a night! This could just refer to all the assorted countries building their pavilions. And I didn't even think about the Quebecois. Maybe it's just me, but when I first read this it brought to mind Indians (native Canadians?) setting up tepees. The "heads for a night" line would seem to indicate a temporary structure that they might pick up and move on with. So I went around the Internet looking and, sure enough, there WAS an indigenous-people-of-Canada exhibit at Expo 67! It's 414 on the Expo '67 map on Ile Notre-Dame: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Plan_souvenir_officiel_Expo_67_%28recompos%C3%A9%29.jpg A gator shooting lightning! It probably isn't important to the solution, but after reading about them I think I need to point out how :metal: they were about their pavilion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians_of_Canada_Pavilion a sovereign people posted:The Indians of Canada Pavilion was a pavilion at the 1967 International and Universal Exposition in Montreal, Canada. The important thing to take away from this is that part of their exhibit still stands. Their totem pole is still over on Ile Notre-Dame, and I think that it might be viewable from the south-east of the Place du Nations. Third from the bottom is very Lookit dat nose! :smugnose: The "pointers" are directing further into the flower garden. Were someone to follow, maybe they'd run in to: Gnomes admire Fays delight The namesakes meeting Near this site. It might just be a carving or some decorative piece on a bench. Or are footpaths named? It would probably be worthwhile for some Montreal goon who has the time to go over and get a brochure for the Floralies Gardens at Parc du Jean-Drapeau. It would be amazing if we solved this with the Internet, but the clues were pretty clearly meant for someone to discern with the power of the naked eye. The Floralies Gardens would tie in nicely with the prominent flower on the puzzle-picture! Are we really sure the the Netherlands are the country associated with Montreal? Because the nations that have their own sections of the garden are Canada, USA, France, England, Mexico, Belgium and Italy. Here is the where I think the totem is: In hindsight I realize what a terrible idea it is to use dark-red to label stuff. Here's a larger picture tying in the George Stephens House and Habitat 67. Note how drawing a line between the GSH and the north end of H67 point roughly to the totem, and GSH and the south end point to the finish line of the race track on Ile Notre-Dame (the checkered flag). Maybe the arc is meant to define an area that we're supposed to search in south-east of the totem? Here are some pictures of the shore of the lake on Ile Notre-Dame. They might match parts of the "folds" on the right side of the puzzle-picture hat: A request: Would someone please take the square with the "legeater" and superimpose it with the "Golden Square Mile" in Montreal to see where the hoof points to? I tried learning Gimp this afternoon to do it but failed miserably. The picture: A picture of Montreal including the where the corners of the bottom of the square should match:
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Milwaukee Has anybody pointed out this coastline? It's way south of where we're looking, but it's a dang close match.
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Guuse posted:This really seems like it has to be the starting point! I did a rough count of the middle rows and I got 12 -- half of 21 rounded up -- but it wasn't a good photo and I may have miscounted. I think you're spot on, though! Actually, I think he found the end point, not the starting point. That Verse reads like it's giving clues in reverse. It starts with a really specific place to dig, then gives clues about the nearby landmarks. Crazy stairs-counting is something that would come at the very end of your journey, when trying to select a specific place to dig.
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stab posted:the race course hasnt changed a bit. I went back and looked at the rune list I provided earlier in the thread over what I believe are runes in the goblins patch. I see the symbol on the red, where it looks like to men arms raised in a v? well, guess what? That's a rune too. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16A0.pdf What it means, again I have no idea. I just know that there are so many "different" languages (is that what we call them?) for runes. After looking through a lot, this was the only one that both showed the P, and the Upside reversed L. This list also shows that little "man" rune too.
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CronoGamer posted:I like what you have so far with St. Helen's Island and definitely find it intriguing. But I think you're in error here in this picture. Look again at the sigil, specifically at the P part of it. The P you're pulling from the Expo logo is different from the P on the gnome's badge. His P is like a backwards 4, with the angle on the right being like 45 degrees. Yours looks much more like a P and the angle is (roughly) twice as large. I had thought I'd seen the rune-shapes in a few other places around Montreal but you have to be careful on seeing it correctly. Since I started the rune thing, this is what I'm thinking about it. I don't think the "p" needs to match the expo logo or any of that. Both the P and the upside down reversed L are letters....which come out to W, T. NOW, does that mean anything? I have not a clue. But now that you see what looks like a person in the Red symbol stick thingy, well that too is a rune. It's a specific rune that is also the same kind I found the other two from. (turns out there's many different "languages" of runes). These are the only 3 that are in the same kind of language. Meaning in some languages they'd have the p, but not the other and vice versa. This is the only one I found that has all 3 of them. So, I think the runes stand for something else, with a W, and a T. I just don't know what. And the new rune I'm really not sure about : ᛘ RUNIC LETTER LONG-BRANCH-MADR M ᛐ RUNIC LETTER SHORT-TWIG-TYR T ᚹ RUNIC LETTER WUNJO WYNN W http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16A0.pdf Maybe something, maybe not. Just putting it out there.
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Unicode was developed in 1991.
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MassaShowtime posted:Unicode was developed in 1991. Runes were around long before the 1980s.
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Of course they were but that particular language set with all three symbols wasn't. I think the runes may simply be a marker in the end.
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slipfish posted:Milwaukee Actually, I did see that and I grew up wandering around seminary woods *ahem* after hours (mid 90s). There are some things in there but, it is a private forest and I dismissed it because I don't recall anything fitting the poem in that area and I don't think he would traverse a private park and graveyard to bury a cask. That said, it's worth a look. You won't find me busting in there to dig though. I'm too old to run away from priests now. edit: it's viewable by the public but, still private property. In other news, I did find this today and like an idiot I didn't take a picture (pic not mine and only one I found on Internet): I passed RIGHT BY IT when I did my trek along Lincoln Memorial last week and missed it entirely because I was focused on looking for birch trees in the tree line and then wandered over to the flag pole. Still can't see how it fits yet, it is pretty much the only "compass" I have found and the building in the background is Villa Terrace. crashdome fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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justsomedude posted:Actually, I think he found the end point, not the starting point. That Verse reads like it's giving clues in reverse. It starts with a really specific place to dig, then gives clues about the nearby landmarks. Crazy stairs-counting is something that would come at the very end of your journey, when trying to select a specific place to dig. I take the overall assortment of clues to mean that with Montreal we should be looking to the 1967 Expo. Place du Nations is the centerpiece of that. The fact that the first few lines of Verse 2 reinforce Place du Nations as the starting point of this quest is a plus, not a minus. If anything, the fact that the "legeater" is maybe the most prominent and most esoteric symbol in the picture is the big faith shaker for the theory that the cask is on the islands. I've tried to bind it in with the narrative by tying it with other things, but as someone posted earlier in this thread, that is the thing that looks most like an endpoint rather than a starting. e: wrong verse Guuse fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Guuse posted:If anything, the fact that the "legeater" is maybe the most prominent and most esoteric symbol in the picture is the big faith shaker for the theory that the cask is on the islands. I've tried to bind it in with the narrative by tying it with other things, but as someone posted earlier in this thread, that is the thing that looks most like an endpoint rather than a starting. I don't think it is a faith shaker in the least. Without the legeater, we'd still be discussing locations in St. Louis. That is an image that definitely gives us Montreal, and I don't think it's anything more than that. The same as when you see Ohio in the Cleveland cask image. At that point, you know it's stupid to look outside of Montreal (or Ohio, respectively) for the cask. It's the key that allows us to dissect the other symbols in the context of the city. Much like the Ohio image let him know he didn't have to research every Greek garden in the country.
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I still think its possibly nearby the legeater and as I stated earlier it may have something to do with Dominion/Dorchester square and I have a few more reasons for that aside from the Ice Palaces that used to be built there. I can tie the namesakes meeting to that square as well. Sir John A Macdonald and Wilfred Laurier both have statues in this square that face each other in a sort of stare down as though they are meeting once again. There's also a statue for the Boer War, perhaps linking to the dutch. 67 in the flower could refer to the founding of the Dominion of Canada, not the Expo itself, thus Dominion square. Oh yeah and during WWII, the British Crown Jewels were held at the Sun Life Building in Montreal, adjacent to the square. Darude - Adam Sandstorm fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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MassaShowtime posted:I still think its possibly nearby the legeater and as I stated earlier it may have something to do with Dominion/Dorchester square and I have a few more reasons for that aside from the Ice Palaces that used to be built there. I can tie the namesakes meeting to that square as well. Sir John A Macdonald and Wilfred Laurier both have statues in this square that face each other in a sort of stare down as though they are meeting once again. There's also a statue for the Boer War, perhaps linking to the dutch. 67 in the flower could refer to the founding of the Dominion of Canada, not the Expo itself, thus Dominion square. I like the Boer War angle. And this:
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Hi nose.
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Merlot Brougham posted:I like the Boer War angle. That building was built in the 90's sadly.
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MassaShowtime posted:That building was built in the 90's sadly. That was my next question. By the way, I did work on Montreal and verse 2 before realizing that the "sovereign people" quote in verse 2 was directly related to New Orleans. Merlot Brougham fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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New York Considering the "Hamilton" sign for the Indies native, I wondered if "him of Hard word in 3 vols" might be Milton. Paradise Lost was in 3 vols and has a couplet about "Hard liberty" (Statue of Liberty). Free, and to none accountable, preferring Hard liberty before the easie yoke
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Merlot Brougham posted:I don't think it is a faith shaker in the least. Without the legeater, we'd still be discussing locations in St. Louis. That is an image that definitely gives us Montreal, and I don't think it's anything more than that. The same as when you see Ohio in the Cleveland cask image. At that point, you know it's stupid to look outside of Montreal (or Ohio, respectively) for the cask. It's the key that allows us to dissect the other symbols in the context of the city. Much like the Ohio image let him know he didn't have to research every Greek garden in the country. I'm not arguing against Montreal being one of the subjects of this treasure hunt. There are more general clues that point to it. For instance, fanpantstic posted this picture earlier showing the Lawrence river matching the line of the inner shirt collar before breaking away at the islands that we're talking about the cask being located: The legeater doesn't seem like a thing that would draw a reader to Montreal in 1982. It's something that you'd see walking down the street only if you were looking for it. I mean, look at how far removed it is from the rest of the clues that we're discussing: I apologize again for being poo poo at choosing tag colors. The legeater is at the GSH way at the bottom left of the picture. I just posted asking a goon with camera and spade to go tromping off through the flower gardens on Ile Notre-Dame from the totem pole I found, so I'm hardy a skeptic of the idea that the cask is on the islands. But the legeater seems like a weird afterthought to me in this analysis. If all the clues we've found prove to be correct, it seems like the puzzle would be solved without involving the legeater at all. That having been said: MassaShowtime posted:I still think its possibly nearby the legeater and as I stated earlier it may have something to do with Dominion/Dorchester square and I have a few more reasons for that aside from the Ice Palaces that used to be built there. I can tie the namesakes meeting to that square as well. Sir John A Macdonald and Wilfred Laurier both have statues in this square that face each other in a sort of stare down as though they are meeting once again. There's also a statue for the Boer War, perhaps linking to the dutch. 67 in the flower could refer to the founding of the Dominion of Canada, not the Expo itself, thus Dominion square. Did you read the theory I posted a couple pages back about Verse 7 starting around Dorchester Square/Place du Canada? edit: My Verse 7 theory is back on page 32... maybe start there and see where you go from the part that I wrote about relating to the John Macdonald statue? Guuse fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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SAN FRANCISCO Whew... our adventure today was more fruitful in finding where the cask wasn't than where it was. We tried to get pics that would give you guys an idea of the environments so people don't get hung up on individual details. ChickenOfTomorrow and pariahthepoet, please feel free to point out anything I might've missed. Russian Hill/Ghirardelli Square: Aside from the "Gh", there is completely nothing up here that resembles any of the clues, nor looks like a place to bury something. Well, there's a good view of Alcatraz a few steps further from the "Gh" spot. Bottom of the hill isn't much more promising. There used to be a fountain or something I guess. Stern Grove: There are virtually no man-made landmarks here that would be good markers, nor does anything ring a bell. There's this gateway which leads to a playground. Eh. Golden Gate Park: First of all, these lamp posts are ALL over the park. They match the column in the painting better than anything else we saw today. Combined with the fact that the woman's dress matches the park shape exactly (down to the curved top edge and slightly wider bottom), I'm fairly convinced we're supposed to look in GGP. There are really nice maps of the park all around - here is a full-res photo for your reference, it's much easier to find locations & match with the painting than using Google Maps. Chinese Pavillion: We headed here first because I felt that with all the China-related hints, it seems that the location could be Chinese-associated. First thing we saw was this: We walked up to the gazebo (Golden Gate Pavillion) and climbed the waterfall, but didn't find any other relevant clues. It did lead me to realize that the dragon in the painting isn't even an Asian dragon. Rose Garden: This is the most world-class rose garden I've ever been to! They have a ton of amazing specimens in full bloom right now. However, there's no place anyone who is not a gardener should be digging. Oh hay we found it! Japanese Tea Garden: Requires an entrance fee; highly unlikely to let you waltz in with a shovel. Also, every inch of this place is meticulously gardened, and nothing looks familiar either. Shakespeare Garden: Okay, this place definitely feels like it has potential. It's very cozy, enclosed and quiet, and full of imagery. The first thing that greets you is a sundial, which, while not matching the exact shape of the column in the painting, is reminiscent of the watch-on-tabletop. (See columns picture above) If I flip the gate....??? There are spheres all over the planters, around 18-20 total. And here is that window-shaped thing. It is not actually a window - apparently, quote:contained in the box, a bust of William Shakespeare resides. There are only two in existence and can be observed with the say-so of park officials. This stone bench was unique and I really wanted it to match something, but at best it has... a spiral. Not exactly a slam-dunk. There are a number of other memorial benches, but at least some, if not all, of them were placed during/after the 90's sooo. Other things that don't ring a bell, but maybe you guys might find it useful. Full-res images of the Shakespeare quotes. I don't think they fit any clues but in case anyone wants to peruse: http://i.imgur.com/dVpvWVP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XhbrIjQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bIHcPCB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MS7GbsQ.jpg Conclusion: The cask is extremely likely to be in Golden Gate Park. Shakespeare Garden is the best shot out of the places we visited today, with Chinese Pavillion a distant second. However, we still have no clue how/which verse matches up. According to my notes, this is the current status of the verses:
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General + Montreal I decided to go through the months/flower assignments and the clocks in the images for a second time. This appears to be the easiest part of the puzzle, but it was kind of throwing me off for a while. code:
I also think that the metal frame in the Boston map can be explained the same way. A couple weird things though (why can't anything be straightforward with this treasure hunt): 1) C8 doesn't really have a flower in the picture, unless you squint at the shadows in the foliage. Does this mean the cask is not in a park/garden (where flowers grow)? 2) A daffodil is pretty much the same thing as a narcissus and the flower for C4 either doesn't look like one OR is stylized completely differently from the flower in C7.
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I don't think all these google map overlays will get us anywhere. There may be some things hidden about in the images which have been stumbled upon already, but it won't take cutting edge GPS satellites to solve something created when they didn't exist. The best course of action is to get out near the places and landmarks that are our best leads and analyze the written clues/cross reference the pictures in the field. See where that takes you. Also I don't think that the 'metal probe' mentioned earlier is going to do anyone any good. This thing was most likely buried at least a foot underground originally, who knows now. Unless you double as the mighty Thor as a day job you're not coming anywhere close. Even if it down poured all night. Even if you could don't buy metal online for god sakes, go to your nearest hardware store and buy a piece of rebar or some emt conduit + a tee. Nnep fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jun 9, 2013 |
# ? Jun 9, 2013 12:20 |