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Leopold N. Loeb posted:Can you confirm or deny that there is some kind of MLM thing going on here? Everyone's talking about smutbux, the pep talk vibe is palpable, and "self-publishing" MLMs are one of the most common form of MLM right now. So, this all seems a bit....fishy. The thing by QuantumFinger, "Quantum Finger posted: D-d-d-d-d-drat. Can I be your unpaid intern and learn at your feet? Paid off my 3-month-old car on Thursday. Thanks smutbucks! Now I'm going to go write the last 23% of my NA novel in a cemetery and then watch Adventure Time in a catatonic trance from Monday through Friday. If I get this book finished tomorrow, that's ~75k in 11 days. Not the ten I wanted, but I'll take it." I'm pretty sure that the numbers refer to word count, not dollars. Smutbux just refers to real money made from sales. For instance, if I sell a $2.99 book on Amazon, with the 70% royalty, I get around $2 a sale. If I have a day job and I'm explaining my income, maybe $600 is from my real job, $500 is smutbux. It's easier than saying "money earned from erotica distribution sites including Amazon and Barnes + Noble". I don't think there's any MLM. My money is just between me, the publishing sites, and my customers. I haven't paid anyone on the forums a dime for advice or help writing. My only expenses are for stock images. The issue with the pep talk vibe is, unlike the other threads like the housebuying thread or wedding thread, there's no part in the OP to discourage people who really don't have any business writing erotica (they're ill-suited in terms of personality, want to write weird niche stuff that isn't going to sell, want easy money, etc.) from joining the thread. I just ignore those users and move on. I have no idea who Lacertine is, I checked their post history in the thread and they haven't posted before, so it's pretty fishy. I guess it might be somebody's parachute account. There are some people who aren't super active who post their pseudonyms, which can be checked on Amazon. If they have a certain number of books listed or a good author ranking for the erotica genre (for reference, a rank in the top 100 tends to be making around $5000 a month, at least), it's probably more likely they're a big shot. Dr_Amazing posted:Who is paying money for erotic writing on the internet? It's like the one thing that's more abundant than actual porn. People who want stuff that is:
Could someone, in theory, go to Literotica or some other site, find the perfect story, format it in Word, export it as an e-book, and load it onto their device? Yes. Is it worth $2.99 for them to just go on Amazon or a similar site, do a quick search or find their favorite author, and download it quickly? For some, yes. That's the market we capture.
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DrHerpington posted:For some, yes. That's the market we capture. I'm so sorry. edit: but the real question is, how many new cars have you just paid off, DrHerpington? This is integral to finding out your true involvement with that shilling money tunnel incest-literature thread. I'm onto your games, pal. 
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MLM or no, it's still EWWWWWW. But since that's not what this thread is about, can we just agree that Lacertine did not make 80 grand this month, last month or any month from writing anything ever? I mean, DrHerpington, have you ever known anyone who made that kind of dough?
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:Seriously, though, I don't know what's worse- that this type of material is being promoted on SA(remember when we used to attack sites like reddit for stuff like that?), or that a MLM scam seems to have set up shop here. On the bright side, the STDH is delicious. Silver linings, I guess.... (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lacertine is full of poo poo - essentially a false flag troll hoping to start crap in the thread. Someone HAS pulled $86,000 in one month. Delilah Fawkes, who started the whole little thing. But that was an outlier for her, and she's basically incredibly exceptional(Her monthly total I believe dropped to 20% of that the next month. That's what happens with royalty based income- a big hit, you'll spike, but it'll average back down). Seconding no MLM marketing scheme. A significant amount of people lurk the thread, taking the advice, and either never posting or waiting until much later. I started in August, I didn't contribute to the thread until January. If Jessi Bond or someone is running a pyramid scheme or whatever, she's pretty goddamn bad at it. The people pulling the higher numbers are doing novels(in the vein of Danielle Steele-style Romance, not really Erotica), and having big successes with them. They use the Smut thread because that's essentially where they started - and arguably Romance is closer to Erotica than the SciFi/Fantasy heavier focus in the standard self-publishing thread in CC. People are making significant money doing this, but on shorts alone, you're not going to do five digits barring incredible circumstances. Personally, I'm at $2k+ a month, full time, hope for advancement. It's by no means easy money no matter what it seems - you gotta bust your rear end, writing, editing, cover work, what little marketing there is. It's not making me rich but I can live comfortably as a 20 something with no dependents. Certainly beats fast food or retail, my other current career prospects. As for the peptalks? Thread's pretty hugboxy. That's all there is to it. Dr_Amazing posted:Who is paying money for erotic writing on the internet? It's like the one thing that's more abundant than actual porn. The prevailing theory, on top of Herpington's comments, is the majority of of our customers are likely middle aged women with disposable incomes. For them, $3 is nothing, they don't have to go to any seedy sites, and it shows up nice and anonymously as "$3 Amazon.com" on their credit card. Don't have to explain to hubby why you're buying porn. The $3 price point is essentially the Bookstore's doing - you need that for the best royalty. Straight up, I kinda think it's pricey for what we do, but ultimately Amazon makes the rules. EDG has a new favorite as of 06:15 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:MLM or no, it's still EWWWWWW. But since that's not what this thread is about, can we just agree that Lacertine did not make 80 grand this month, last month or any month from writing anything ever? I mean, DrHerpington, have you ever known anti.e who made that kind of dough? anti.e? "anybody"? I've heard in the forums that a few long-time posters have made that much, but that's after writing for a year or two, and unlike Lacertine, they have older posts documenting that growth. CJacobs posted:I'm so sorry. Haha, none! I've made about $3000 total, maybe a bit more, but that's over 3, 4 months. EDG posted:
You explained it best. I was pretty sure Lacertine was a troll but I haven't been around long enough to know who's who. $3 seems pricy but a lot of the $10 bundles (especially with 20+ stories) are pretty cheap, and some stories at $3 are pretty long. Also, they're getting dirty stuff than they'll get in a romance novel, while still getting the archetypes and settings they enjoy. @Leopold: I don't get why you're posting this everywhere. There's a lot of poo poo that pisses me off too, I don't go posting it around on every forum. At least FYAD posted my covers! 
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I wish the last 40 posts were poo poo that didn't happen. Jesus Christ.
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Personally I think the porn writing junk is awesome, even if it's only a grand or two a month. But then my previous jobs have included porn artist and eBay witch.
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yronic heroism posted:http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/1fygfx/not_sure_this_is_the_best_way_to_deal_with_a/ My favourite part is when she thought he disappeared and didn't think to check his workplace for a few months.
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Ratjaculation posted:My favourite part is when she thought he disappeared and didn't think to check his workplace for a few months. Well that's only because she had just found out the she had been cheating! You know, when you go out in public with a dude and while you're gone all your boyfriend's stuff disappears, it would probably never occur to you that he'd found out unless someone told you later. Whores, amirite? 
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moerketid posted:eBay witch. What is this?
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Ratjaculation posted:My favourite part is when she thought he disappeared and didn't think to check his workplace for a few months. Or ask one of the doubtless several people who know both of them but don't feel the need to get involved in petty drama and head games.
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Samfucius posted:What is this? There may be more to it, but it was people who would sell their "services" on eBay as a witch, mostly casting spells for you and sending you crystals and crap. eBay changed policy (about a year or so ago I think?) to stop this from happening.
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Some classic STDH from A/T., the Helldump thread is here. Quick version - goon volunteers at an anime con, thinks this makes him Dirty Harry multiplied by Jack Bauer. quote:Last year, I had to get somewhere fast. I know most of the shortcuts, so I opened a door and started climbing stairs. There's a security guy there saying "You can't go here." He was sitting in a chair and didn't bother to move to get in my way. quote:There was one guy, a few years ago, dressed as a shirtless Vash the Stampede. He wasn't fat or anything like that, just lots of zits on his back along with scars and whatnot. He was talking poo poo to other people as they passed him for no reason other than to show his sister/girlfriend (I didn't care which), who was dressed as Winry. I put him in his place by saying, "Hey, I'd have a short fuse too if I had that many zits on public display." quote:I was running a LARP at AnimeUSA. At first, I cancelled it because I had a death in the family close to the con, and didn't have my heart in the event anymore. When the staff saw a HUGE fan involvement, the staff helped me bring it back. Then AUSA senior staff moved my room to a hallway AFTER the map went to print (showing the AMV room as the LARP room). When two people came to the LARP, the Director of Programming told me it wasn't my fault and that he was cancelling the LARP again and that's all that was to be said about the matter. This was Friday afternoon. quote:At Anime USA, we have different hubs for different aspects of the con. As an example, there's Convention Operations [ConOps ], Programming Ops [], Gopher Ops , Green Room and others. Trust me you should be grateful that the ravages of time have made quoting the emoticon conversations impossible.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I remember some incidences like this, now that I think about it. I think part of it is that teachers can get into trouble for actually doing anything about it, but they can also just kind of forget that they saw anything or look the other way when the bullies get the poo poo kicked out of them. It isn't the ideal solution but sometimes it's the only one there is.
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A teacher who ever says "sorry, you had it coming" to a student probably should look into another profession (or change over to being a PE teacher). Funnily enough, the majority of that poo poo that didn't happen is actually poo poo that could plausibly happen, I remember a video of a fight between a bully and another kid and the kid kicks his rear end despite being way smaller. The difference between that video and STDH is that nobody went "THAT KID... IS UNREAL!" afterward.
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From This is Thin Privilege: This whole website reeks of insecurity, poor self-esteem, and mental illness. Speaking of mentally ill people posting things, Let's check Craigslist!   Here have some racism from a  Please give me an excuse to be a decent human being with people skills! It's not like my job demands I be able to work with people who aren't me  !
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Vicas posted:This is awesome. My favorite part is how he owned most of the things in the house, except some of that dumb poo poo in the kitchen.  "That's because only women cook." Subsists off a diet consisting of Mountain Dew and Cheetos.
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It's such a perfect "heh, women, right guys???" line that he slips right in to make himself look better
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constantIllusion posted:From This is Thin Privilege: This is Thin Privilege is one of those things that's worse because there's a point in there. Yeah, I understand fat people are probably tired of hearing about their weight and getting treated unconsciously different because of it. But when you're doing something like... titp posted:Thin privilege is not purposely breaking your own wrist (with a hammer) to avoid having to deal with the public humiliation of being fat while swimming in gym class in high school. shit_that_won't_happen: titp posted:I am writing a book that I hope to also make into a web comic or even a graphic novel if I can get enough help and a good kickstarter going for it (but first comes writing/finishing it! lol) There's a post that's pretty much literally 'it's only okay for your skinny friend to wear baggy clothes because she's diagnosed with tactile hypersensitivity', because since she has a special condition that means she wins more Oppression Points. I could post a whole bevy of links, but I'll keep it strictly to STDH for the sake of staying on topic. Suffice to say there's a lot of material there, some of it sensible, some of it boring, and some of it silly. A running theme is doctors unable to treat problems... quote:I’m a girl, 5’5”, was about 15 and was UK trouser size 14. I explained to the 6 foot male doctor in his 50’s that I had been kicked directly in the coccyx and ever since then I’d had pain. When I finished talking he told me to pull my shirt up and move in certain ways to see if there was a problem. He concluded that there wasn’t. (He wasn’t even able to see where my coccyx are!). quote:Recently my (230 pound) brother jumped in my arms when I wasn’t expecting it, and I felt immense pain in my back immediately, pain I have felt in the past tearing a ligament. When I went to see a doctor to confirm it wasn’t skeletal he insisted on constantly blaming it on my weight. I should not have to say “I JUST told you exactly how/why it happened” repeatedly and have him STILL continue to berate me with comments about my weight and suggestions about how to change my lifestyle. Of course this is Tumblr so we have to literally have PTSD because people talked about diets. quote:Thin privilege is being able to easily find cool vegan blogs or recipe websites on tumblr that don’t shame you for your weight. quote:Thin privilege is not having to be afraid of language class when you start learning about weights and measurements. My Chinese teacher had us line up by weight and I was the third heaviest person after two boys. I love being a 5’6” 170 pound girl but it was really hard to stay confident when compared to others in such a blatant manner.
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Djeser posted:It's nice to know that Ken Jeong's character from Community has found a new job teaching Chinese. Chang teaches Spanish.  More reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/1g0re8/due_to_a_near_death_experience_today_i_finally/
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Serperoth posted:I don't get it. She apparently loves her body, but is not proud of it when compared to others? Those two seem a little contrary. I have a feeling that there's a lot of just general insecurity going around, which isn't really limited to fat people. There was a post about people going out in sweat pants and an undershirt and if you're fat people think you're lazy but if you're not apparently people think you're a marathon runner. (Of course if you point out that non-fat people can look like slobs too you're trying to silence fat-positive conversations.) yronic heroism posted:Chang teaches Spanish. Are you saying Chang couldn't teach Chinese if he wanted to? Are you saying that just because he's Señor Chang that he can't teach Chinese? You probably think he's lazy and crafty and owns a big sombrero.
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Djeser posted:You probably think he's lazy and crafty and owns a big sombrero. I'm sorry, but could you check your hat privilege? This post is very triggering for people who don't have access to hats.
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Djeser posted:A running theme is doctors unable to treat problems... This is really a thing, not a stdh, it happens to tons of people. Especially with my condition (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome type III), I hear of a lot of people who have been subjected to doctors telling them it's just their weight, lose that and it'll all be cool (generally prior to diagnosis, but recently heard of a lady who is part of the charity that was told her genetic disorder was "nothing a diet won't fix" by the occupational therapist). My best friend who had a herniated disc in her back was also subject to "it's just your weight, go to the gym and your back will be fine" before they did an MRI on her. I wouldn't say it's "thin privilege" just lovely lazy doctors who don't take the time to listen - if it's not weight, it can easily be something else.
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moerketid posted:This is really a thing, not a stdh, it happens to tons of people. Especially with my condition (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome type III), I hear of a lot of people who have been subjected to doctors telling them it's just their weight, lose that and it'll all be cool (generally prior to diagnosis, but recently heard of a lady who is part of the charity that was told her genetic disorder was "nothing a diet won't fix" by the occupational therapist). My best friend who had a herniated disc in her back was also subject to "it's just your weight, go to the gym and your back will be fine" before they did an MRI on her. I wouldn't say it's "thin privilege" just lovely lazy doctors who don't take the time to listen - if it's not weight, it can easily be something else. Not only is this a real thing, it's a dangerous real thing. A friend nearly died from ovarian cysts because she couldn't get the doctors to actually examine her until the day she collapsed at the store. Another one was in agony for months. Doctor after doctor told him to 'just lose weight and it would go away'. When the ER did a CT scan, they found massive gallstones and had to operate. So yeah, it's lazy doctors combined with a bit of discrimination.
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He thinks he's being sarcastic saying thank you to the guys in the car but they're really his knights in shining armour, now he's got a new excuse to stop trying to better himself. Some people probably did yell something mean at him when he went out which just grew and grew in his mind until it was the biggest injustice ever and he could just go back to his lovely life with someone other than himself to blame for it. Of course if it wasn't them it would have been some other bullshit that would have made him quit.
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swampland posted:He thinks he's being sarcastic saying thank you to the guys in the car but they're really his knights in shining armour, now he's got a new excuse to stop trying to better himself. Some people probably did yell something mean at him when he went out which just grew and grew in his mind until it was the biggest injustice ever and he could just go back to his lovely life with someone other than himself to blame for it. Of course if it wasn't them it would have been some other bullshit that would have made him quit. A bunch of teenagers live near me and drive slow up whenever a single male age 14-40 is alone to call them a human being before racing away. I, my neighbors, and the strangers manage not to give a gently caress for whatever reason, though that might be because we're not mentally ill.
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