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Powershift posted:
My buddy at work has the Hemi 8 speed and it hauls rear end.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Moreso, look at the gearbox backing it up - an eight-speed automatic. There's your real cost center.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Moreso, look at the gearbox backing it up - an eight-speed automatic. There's your real cost center. it's a grand more than the v8 package with the (uprated) 8 speed, 2k more than the v8with the 6sp. i think they're still trying to straighten out their pricing now that the 4.7 and 4 speed are gone.
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Is the V8 direct injected? Im sure all the high pressure plumbing adds material and R&D costs.
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Sadi posted:Is the V8 direct injected? Im sure all the high pressure plumbing adds material and R&D costs. none of them are di, you're thinking of the new GM engines.
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travisray2004 posted:They had to use up that second gen. Camry parts stock somehow. Pff, Toyota doesn't stock parts.
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Throatwarbler posted:i think they're still trying to straighten out their pricing now that the 4.7 and 4 speed are gone. I bet GM foresaw this situation occurring and that's why they developed a push-rod V6 for their trucks.
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The polarizing new Cherokee was able to make it through the Rubicon Trail unassisted: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151948897888765.1073741833.143647533764&type=1 I'm morbidly curious to see how this thing will sell.
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I'm 100% on board with the looks now. Now how do I make it so that I don't have to read all the comments? 
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Not quite the latest release, but I've just dug up the latest and greatest the ever-innovative, perpetually competitive Mitsubishi Motors: The 2014 Mirage. Interesting numbers: - 1.2L NA 3-cyl (also a 1.0 but not for America) - 5sp or CVT - 1,863 lbs - 37mpg city/44 hwy - 0-60 in 11.7s manual, 12.8s CVT  ...And oh yeah, 74 horsepower. Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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Jun 10, 2013 05:11
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I'm impressed at how cheap they got it to look.
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With a curb weight like that I'm sure someone will be along to finish the car any day now. It will probably sell well in Canada.
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Cream_Filling posted:I'm impressed at how cheap they got it to look. It's worse in person. They have two pink ones at the dealership near me and they look like two big testicles. Also, I think that green must be an up market mirage with those alloys and foggies.
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Cream_Filling posted:I'm impressed at how cheap they got it to look. I didn't know that Mitsubishi is a chinese car manufacturer now. That front end looks bad.
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Eh I think the Chinese still have most-horrible-things-on-the-road covered Behold:   (in case you thought the insides might be better)
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Friar Zucchini posted:Not quite the latest release, but I've just dug up the latest and greatest the ever-innovative, perpetually competitive Mitsubishi Motors: The 2014 Mirage. Of course Sniff Petrol's opinion is about spot on about the Mirage: 
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The current Micra isn't any better - when you try and play at the cheapest end of the market you end up with a horribly compromised product. e. Spark and Splash too dissss fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jun 10, 2013 |
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You Am I posted:Every review I have seen of this in Australia mentions the looks and design is like a Korean car from 2005. Pretty damning. Hasn't Sniff Petrol done a bunch of fake advertisements in the past? I'm wondering if Mitsubishi even has the resources anymore to make anything worth a drat.
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You're all pretty angry about a cheap car being a cheap car.
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Here's some more old news. There's going to be a joint BMW/Toyota sports car. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/bmw-toyota-announce-plans-for-co-developed-sports-car.html BMW reliability with Toyota driving dynamics?
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Stealing BMWs turbo tech for the next Supra?
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Throatwarbler posted:You're all pretty angry about a cheap car being a cheap car. Not so much angry as knowingly disappointed. Oh Mitsubishi, you've fallen so far... There are plenty of cheap cars that don't look super cheap. Even the Smart car isn't this bad looking. Honestly, in that green color, it looks like a bad knock-off of a Mazda 2. 
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Tekne posted:The polarizing new Cherokee was able to make it through the Rubicon Trail unassisted: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151948897888765.1073741833.143647533764&type=1
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don't know if it's Jeep's target market but all the late 20 / early 30 year old girls I've spoken to (my sisters' friends) love the new Cherokee design. It'll probably be targeted at CR-V & RAV4 buyers, so yeah.
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dissss posted:The current Micra isn't any better - when you try and play at the cheapest end of the market you end up with a horribly compromised product. I don't know, I think the Spark looks a hell of a lot better than anything else in the <$14k segment in the US.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don't know if it's Jeep's target market but all the late 20 / early 30 year old girls I've spoken to (my sisters' friends) love the new Cherokee design. I saw it in person at the car show here, and it really does look pretty sweet, if just different then what you might be used too. All the lines and etc work in person.
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its just those headlights. The kinda shark nose thing with the high clearance would be cool if the lights didn't look so cheap and spoil it.
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I posted a new Skoda Octavia some time ago, now they released the vRS (220HP, lowered) version. http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-octavia-vrs-revealed The sedan is pretty boring, but oh man, that wagon in white   It just RIGHT expept the wheels.
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I'm fine with all of it including the wheels.
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm fine with all of it including the wheels. Yeah, those wheels are boss.
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Kerrow posted:I posted a new Skoda Octavia some time ago, now they released the vRS (220HP, lowered) version. Indeed, for some reason Skoda can't make sedans (hatchbacks in fact in the case of the Octavia), or hybrid sedans/hatchback monstruosity for the Superb)  
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I approve of the angular styling language Skoda has been introducing lately on the Octavia and Rapid.
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I'd take the Trailhawk Cherokee in granite metallic with the dark wheels. It really looks like a shark or ray in that color, but in a good way imo. You can tell that Chrysler wants these to sell: 
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What do these compete with? I can't seem to think of a CUV market that would fit into, given its size and price.
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Lowclock posted:So does the V8 that's $1000 bucks cheaper. I bet it comes down to standard options and less common parts. Throatwarbler posted:it's a grand more than the v8 package with the (uprated) 8 speed, 2k more than the v8with the 6sp. Welp  Then yeah, chalk that up to Dodge deciding that if you're going to save $x on fuel over the life of the truck, they can just charge you some amount less than $x and make more money!
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Augmented Dickey posted:We're up to 9 speed automatics now? Ford/GM are collaborating on a pair of autos right now. A 9 speed for FWD and a 10 speed for RWD, so it's not stopping at just 9. Though I have to imagine they're getting to the point of diminishing returns soon.
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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/56708/volvo-set-to-join-v8-supercars-report Sounds like Volvo might be joining Australia's V8 Supercars championship. I'm glad the whole 'car of tomorrow' thing is actually getting embraced. Even though the new cars aren't quite competitive yet, it's much more interesting to watch this way
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Q_res posted:Ford/GM are collaborating on a pair of autos right now. A 9 speed for FWD and a 10 speed for RWD, so it's not stopping at just 9. Though I have to imagine they're getting to the point of diminishing returns soon. A CVT is the best theoretical transmission - who cares about power curves when you can spin the engine to where it performs best (or makes best economy or whatever) and then just vary the ratio as you get to the speed you want? Problem is making a CVT that holds up to a lot of power. These ridiculously-high gear count transmissions are probably proving to be easier to build to hold up to higher horsepower applications than a CVT, and they probably also skirt around some CVT patents that these companies don't own.
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IOwnCalculus posted:A CVT is the best theoretical transmission - who cares about power curves when you can spin the engine to where it performs best (or makes best economy or whatever) and then just vary the ratio as you get to the speed you want? Problem is making a CVT that holds up to a lot of power. How are Nissan's CVTs holding up? They've been using them in the Murano, Altima, and a couple other cars for a while now. Neither of those are really high power cars, but the Murano has 300ish HP.
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