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My PIN is 4826 posted:I've got a feeling that if people just keep calling it sea lion, it could stick as a kind of nickname. I said come in! posted:I'm going to just continue to call it Mac like I always have, and most people do. Mavericks is kinda a dumb name, and i'm sad that they ditched the big cats naming scheme finally. They least they could have done was go with puppies. Mac OS X German Shepard. 
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Jun 11, 2013 00:44
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FCKGW posted:Why not OS X Big Sur? That could be 10.10
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Jun 11, 2013 01:07
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Has anyone managed to make a Mavericks restore disk using the usual method of creating a disk from the .dmg inside the App Store download? It's not working for me. I managed to do an upgrade install, but I'd like to attempt a clean one. Edit: I guess now booting off of the restore partition will let me do a clean install, but I suppose my original question still stands.
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Jun 11, 2013 03:10
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grmartin posted:Have you ever tried Google Picasa? It's a pretty great piece of free software targeted towards the consumer market for photo (and video file) management and organization, and it's arguably more powerful/straightforward than iPhoto. It acts to catalog and organize the photos you specify, either from pre-specified folders to continually scan for image files, or for the files you drop into it manually; it doesn't move files from their original locations on disk unless you ask it to do so (you could even store the files in Dropbox and use Picasa to browse and organize them if you like). It maintains metadata and folder structure and can back your photos up to the Google cloud by storing them in Google+ either privately (by default) or publicly, where you can access them through the Google+ app for iOS or through any web browser; it can also detect duplicate photos. You can sort by date created, date modified, file size, file name, or dominant color in the photo; you can also create tags and apply them to photos to search more easily (I still think it could be better in terms of ease of grouping photos automatically, though). Being Google software, it's extremely easy to share photos as long as you want to do it through Google+ (or through email). However, the software has an open API, so if you'd like to add something like the ability to upload to Facebook from inside the software, a plugin developed by Facebook exists to add a button to do just that. It's not perfect software, but it's a good replacement for iPhoto. I love Picasa on Windows but unfortunately it still has no Retina support on OS X and looks like complete rear end on rMBP. But for anyone that's not an issue for, I highly recommend it as a photo viewer and archiver.
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Jun 11, 2013 03:16
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Did we know if the new Safari is going to be available for Mountain Lion? Is it only coming out for Mavericks? The one password thing is really lucrative for me to make Safari my default browser.
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Jun 11, 2013 03:28
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I've never used an Apple DP before -- does it update from DP to DP via updates, or do I have to reinstall?
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Jun 11, 2013 03:53
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Sinestro posted:I've never used an Apple DP before -- does it update from DP to DP via updates, or do I have to reinstall? In recent history, usually you just suck down updates from Software Update like it's a production OS. Occasionally you may need a reinstall.
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Jun 11, 2013 04:05
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For Mac, how is iWork compared to Office and Google Derive now a days? I mostly need just spreadsheets and word documents, and nothing really fancy. Google drive does already cover most of my needs (albeit kind of bare boned), but for $20 each iWork doesn't seem that bad. Does it handle converting to and from Office seamlessly? I do already have iWork for my iPad as well.
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Jun 11, 2013 04:33
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Civil posted:Now that they're on (or soon will be) OS X 10.9, what will they call the next release? They don't need to do point numbers anymore. I think they did it on purpose. Check out how often they use 10.9 on this page: http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/ (they only use it in the legalese poo poo at the bottom)
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Jun 11, 2013 04:58
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I'm a bit surprised Mavericks won't make it in time for back to school. Maybe the rumors of engineers being pulled off of OS X in order to get iOS 7 into shape were true.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:22
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I'm a bit surprised Mavericks won't make it in time for back to school. Maybe the rumors of engineers being pulled off of OS X in order to get iOS 7 into shape were true. Leopard didn't and Snow Leopard didn't, for what it's worth.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:26
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Jun 11, 2013 06:27
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Wonder what the hardware requirements will be for Mavs. I'm not sure what the next most recent hardware cutoff is after 64-bit firmware, and I don't think they'll cut off anything that doesn't have Sandy Bridge or newer yet.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:31
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Sockser posted:Leopard didn't and Snow Leopard didn't, for what it's worth. I guess they figure it won't hurt sales at all if Mavericks is late. Students still need laptops.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:35
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carry on then posted:Wonder what the hardware requirements will be for Mavs. I'm not sure what the next most recent hardware cutoff is after 64-bit firmware, and I don't think they'll cut off anything that doesn't have Sandy Bridge or newer yet. There were reasons for those requirements, as you alluded to. I see no reason for Apple to move the bar any further though. I would bet the requirements will stay the same for at least another few years.
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Jun 11, 2013 08:02
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Ran Mavericks on a 17-inch, Early 2011 modal for a few hours, performance wise it was fine. Until someone finds out how to do a clean install I'll have to stick with 10.8.
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Jun 11, 2013 08:28
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I'm pretty sure that's before Macs became the #1 laptop for college students, though. Apple understands how important the BTS season is now and has put a concerted effort toward getting 10.7 and 10.8 in time for it. Fall is September-Octoberish for Apple, right? So if they use like 2 months for the 'upgrade to Mavericks free if you buy now' thing it'll work?
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Jun 11, 2013 08:38
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I think I asked this about Mountain Lion and didn't get the answer I was hoping for, but (fingers crossed) with the Spaces revamp for 10.9 I'm hoping this works properly... Can someone with 10.9 do me a favor and test this? (Please adapt instructions to the new OS as appropriate!) 1. Uncheck "When switching to an application, switch to a space with open windows for that application" in Mission Control System Preferences. 2. Assign Finder to "None" (no particular Space/Desktop). 3. Open at least one Finder window in Desktop #1. 4. Switch to Desktop #2 and make sure there are no Finder windows open there. 5. Switch to any other app besides Finder. 6. Click on Finder in the dock. Result you SHOULD get: Finder becomes active in your current space (obeying setting from step 1). Result I fear you will get: You are whisked back to Desktop #1 and the open Finder window there. Thanks... Choadmaster fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Jun 11, 2013 |
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Jun 11, 2013 08:52
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Duckman2008 posted:For Mac, how is iWork compared to Office and Google Derive now a days? I mostly need just spreadsheets and word documents, and nothing really fancy. Google drive does already cover most of my needs (albeit kind of bare boned), but for $20 each iWork doesn't seem that bad. Does it handle converting to and from Office seamlessly? Back to Office compatibility, I think the biggest weakness/annoyance with iWork is working with Office stuff because it doesn't let you save back as an Office doc by default. Like if you open a Word doc in Pages, it'll import it into a new Pages doc. After editing or whatever, you have to manually save it as a Word doc. Granted it's a checkbox in the dialog, but still annoying if you just want to open a doc, edit, and keep as a doc. Understandable considering the possible compatibility issues, but still annoying.
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Jun 11, 2013 09:30
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Choadmaster posted:I think I asked this about Mountain Lion and didn't get the answer I was hoping for, but (fingers crossed) with the Spaces revamp for 10.9 I'm hoping this works properly... Can someone with 10.9 do me a favor and test this? (Please adapt instructions to the new OS as appropriate!)
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Jun 11, 2013 12:51
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I must have tuned this out during the keynote (if they mentioned it) but Safari basically has built-in ClickToPlugin in Mavericks:
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Jun 11, 2013 18:24
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japtor posted:Back to Office compatibility, I think the biggest weakness/annoyance with iWork is working with Office stuff because it doesn't let you save back as an Office doc by default. Like if you open a Word doc in Pages, it'll import it into a new Pages doc. After editing or whatever, you have to manually save it as a Word doc. Granted it's a checkbox in the dialog, but still annoying if you just want to open a doc, edit, and keep as a doc. Understandable considering the possible compatibility issues, but still annoying. That's the first thing I turn on in OO.
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Jun 11, 2013 18:27
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I must have tuned this out during the keynote (if they mentioned it) but Safari basically has built-in ClickToPlugin in Mavericks: Smart ClickToPlugin too. Off to the side? Probably not what you want to run. In the middle? You're probably going to run it anyway. It'll be neat if their Chrome counterparts did this too.
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Jun 11, 2013 18:34
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Essentially it kills all crappy flash ads. Fat chance that Google would include anything like that in Chrome.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:15
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They allow extensions like AdBlock+, which essentially does the same thing.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:16
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I need some help saving data from my corrupt WD 2TB external hdd. Anyone used Data Rescue 3? I ran disk utility repair on the drive and got a message about B-tree nod size being hosed. I searched for solutions and tried diskwarrior, testdisk + pdisk to rewrite the partition... no go, the drive still wouldn't mount. Finally I found Data Rescue 3 and I've been running a deep scan for 14 hours now. It seems to work nicely and reports to have found a shitload of files. But when the scan is done I need to recover the data to a hdd with enough space, and I have none. Do I need to leave the app and external hdd running while waiting for a new drive? It will take a couple of days before I get the new hdd. thanks for any help!
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Jun 11, 2013 19:19
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People who are frustrated by OS X's SMB2 implementation might get a bit of love from Mavericks: SMB2 is now the default file sharing protocol instead of AFP. Hopefully that means SMB2 will be a bit more robust in its implementation. Source @ Ars Technica
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FlashBangBob posted:They allow extensions like AdBlock+, which essentially does the same thing. There's a big difference between allowing a plugin and building in.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:54
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cbirdsong posted:There's a big difference between allowing a plugin and building in. See also: Chrome and Do Not Track.
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Jun 11, 2013 20:09
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SWSP and other developer type people that were trying to clean install the Mavericks preview, I found some instructions on making a flash drive: http://www.mactrast.com/2013/06/how...veloper-preview. I'll give it a shot and see if I can get my VM to start up off the flash drive. Edit: It boots and the installer is like the older Snow Leopard DVDs rather than the recovery partition/ESD with Lion/ML. Take everything with a grain of salt at this point as I suspect the retail release will be back to the current method of deployment. Pretty sure everything else is under NDA. Mercurius fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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I actually hope Apple cuts more models from the Mavericks-ready list of Macs at GM time; Mountain Lion runs slow as poo poo on 2007 machines even though some are approved. Both perceptually AND computationally; I have two identical Minis, one running Lion and the other running ML, running the same distributed projects, and the ML mini averages 10-15% fewer work units. I'm not saying older models should be discounted outright but IMHO Apple needs to consider not just compatibility but usability even more than they do now.
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Binary Badger posted:I'm not saying older models should be discounted outright but IMHO Apple needs to consider not just compatibility but usability even more than they do now. Oh they do. Someone who installs a new OS on an older computer and isn't happy with the experience will be more motivated to buy a new computer.
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wolffenstein posted:I'd tell you, but 10.9 is under NDA. Make me install it myself why don't you...  Star War Sex Parrot posted:I guess now booting off of the restore partition will let me do a clean install Eternally stuck on "signing in to app store..." Time to check out Mercurious' link.Edit: For those following the instructions at that link: A) The step to "Copy BaseSystem.dmg somewhere convenient" is totally unnecessary. B) The steps to show/hide invisible files just to drag BaseSystem.dmg into Disk Utility is pretty much unnecessary too. Just type in the path to the BaseSystem image in the source field when doing the restore: "/Volumes/Install OS X ESD/BaseSystem.dmg" Choadmaster fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:People who are frustrated by OS X's SMB2 implementation might get a bit of love from Mavericks: SMB2 is now the default file sharing protocol instead of AFP. Hopefully that means SMB2 will be a bit more robust in its implementation. Sadly it is broken as all gently caress on my workplace's DFS and SMB Windows Server shares 
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Jun 12, 2013 02:29
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I must have tuned this out during the keynote (if they mentioned it) but Safari basically has built-in ClickToPlugin in Mavericks: That's wonderful. Along with the password auto-generator, they're taking care of 90% of the stuff I do to my parents computers to improve their performance and protect their logins.
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DarkJC posted:Essentially it kills all crappy flash ads. Fat chance that Google would include anything like that in Chrome. Chrome has click to plugin built in. Check the settings page.
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Binary Badger posted:I actually hope Apple cuts more models from the Mavericks-ready list of Macs at GM time; Mountain Lion runs slow as poo poo on 2007 machines even though some are approved. I remember about 2 years ago, someone I worked with got really irrationally angry that they don't supply updates to iTunes for their PPC G4 laptop. I guess largely letting them run a chuggier OS on their outdated machine is part of a plan because then people like this will whine that their computer is too slow and go buy a new one. It's a bit like game system requirements, you can run it on the minimum they put on the box but you definitely don't want to.
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the_lion posted:letting them run a chuggier OS on their outdated machine is part of a plan I guess either way it's always part of a plan: If it doesn't run the latest OS, it's part of a plan to make them buy something new in order to have the new features, and if it does, it's part of a plan to show them how slow it is on their obsolete machines. I guess the makers of operating systems just can't win against that kind of logic.
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Ethereal posted:Chrome has click to plugin built in. Check the settings page. Yes, I use it myself. It's not smart like the new one in Safari.
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