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KittyEmpress posted:Fairly certain the 'her' referred to is Bastilla, not Revan. Yeah. At the time of the Taris bombardment, everyone thought Revan was dead.
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Ravenfood posted:I haven't gotten there yet, but if Bioware made their baby Revan a midlevel FP boss, I can only imagine what they did to the Exile. And yes, my biggest problem with the Foundry wasn't that they changed Revan's gender for me, but that they used a pretty nifty character (and HK47, depending on how you feel about him) as a lovely little sidequest boss. The Revanites weren't a bad little cult, but having Revan actually roaming around was stupid. Well first of all, she's not even in game. Book spoilers She's straight up killed during the fight with the Sith Emperor. They try to make her death seem 'cool' because she becomes a Force Ghost through ~sheer connection~ to the Force (not the technique that every other Jedi needs to do so), but she's still just chumped. The Emperor is bad though, everything related to him just makes me sigh. I hate the idea of him.
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Jun 11, 2013 18:36
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KittyEmpress posted:Well first of all, she's not even in game. Yes, she is. You meet her on Republic side as the person who sends you to Revan, and again in the Jedi Knight storyline. She's the one who vouches for Scourges intentions, despite him being the one who killed her. Oh, and it's also heavily hinted she had a romance with Revan prior to his fall to the Dark Side. It's why the JK storyline is so abysmally bad.
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Jun 11, 2013 18:52
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Rascyc posted:Lighten up man, you are advocating kicking people out of one of the first three instances of the game. This is tutorial level content here. There is one rough pull in all of normal Athiss and it is the second pull with two big droids and maybe even three cause I think there's a pat and there's a lot of ways to deal with those if even 1 person in your group has even the slightest bit of MMO instance experience. The rest of those entry level instances are so brain dead easy. I try to be considerate to obviously new people and very often, they just don't know better. What I will not loving tolerate is someone continuing to be an rear end on purpose or getting abusive when I ask them to please not attack the Champion I CC'ed for the fifth time. If a vote-kick doesn't work, /ignore and leave. Yes, it's an easy dungeon, but it's also not my job to put up with their poo poo and reward them for being assholes. It's also not so much that they're doing it in Hammer Station, but that they'll eventually do it in NMs and raids. I don't expect perfection, but I do expect consideration.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:06
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Yeah, I just get tired of having to explain it over and over again. It's not necessary most pulls, but it seems like every FP has at least one nasty pull--the pull with two elite large robots in Hammer Station before the first boss, for example--that ends up in a wipe because people don't get it. The last time I ran it all of the DPS and the healer made a beeline for the elite I'd CC'd and proceed to beat on it while I tried to gather up the rest. It was just a huge  of stupidity.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:46
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Hell a lot of people have problems with that spawn in hard mode.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:48
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Lately, what I'm seeing is DPSers que'ing as healers or tanks because the group finder pops more often that way 
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Jun 11, 2013 19:49
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I didn't really care, I was just glad to see Revan brought back in any way.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:53
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Tide posted:Lately, what I'm seeing is DPSers que'ing as healers or tanks because the group finder pops more often that way I don't understand what they think will happen when they don't respec.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:55
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I guess my view is probably biased in that I always heal for my 5-mans just to avoid those situations. I feel like I can account for almost any level of stupidity in a normal FP, short of a mob train.
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Jun 11, 2013 19:55
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Tolan posted:Yeah, I just get tired of having to explain it over and over again. I just ran that as a healer. Tank did not manage to get all the mobs on him so I was at half health at that point. I asked him to put guard on me while I was resting. Tank immediately jumps at the first robot before I was even close to full health, the second one is left completely unchecked, rips me to shreds, 2 of the other guys get destroyed, the 3rd runs away to the respawn and drags them all along so that the 2 first ones die once again. And then he can't see that he may have done something wrong. (Also why do so many pubbies not understand that expending all your ressources immediately and then spending the whole fight in slow-regeneration is an awful idea ?!)
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Jun 11, 2013 19:57
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The first thing I always say in a Flashpoint is "If you want something CC'd, mark it with Bolt." That's usually good enough for people to mark things. My least favorite pull is the four dog pull in Mandalorian Raiders. Someone ALWAYS breaks the CC and we ALWAYS wipe on it, and then I get called out for being a bitch-rear end healer because I can't heal everyone at once. (insert Force Shock emoticon here)
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Jun 11, 2013 20:00
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Just started playing as Shaggha on Jedi Covenant (Empire) if someone is doing the guild inviting thing. I'll be sure to pester you with cute newbie questions. When do I get my space car 
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Jun 11, 2013 20:01
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After Dromund Kaas, aka in the 15-17 level range I think. It depends on how fast you advance the story.
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Jun 11, 2013 20:03
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hobbesmaster posted:Hell a lot of people have problems with that spawn in hard mode. Saber Reflect is the best thing, trivializes so many otherwise annoying hard mode pulls. I only wish it had a decent animation. As for slow-regeneration due to lacking resource, I imagine a lot of people simply don't know. It's explained in a codex entry in a somewhat vague way and you don't really need to know it while soloing, so you can easily level up for quite a while without understanding why your energy sometimes regenerates slowly. If you notice someone burning out consistently you might inform them how it works.
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Jun 11, 2013 20:13
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Promethium posted:Saber Reflect is the best thing, trivializes so many otherwise annoying hard mode pulls. I only wish it had a decent animation. Well there are those three arrows, it's possible to figure it out. Isn't there a tool tip when you hover over these arrows ? The again I think I took a few levels too until I understood that using less actions to stay in high regen is actually always worth it. (The actual worst part is that even when you explain it they still tend to do it and as far as I can see that cripples your DPS quite a bit)
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Jun 11, 2013 20:17
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Fathis Munk posted:
Honestly, i'm wishing I hadn't rolled a sniper as my first character. I feel like there's a hell of a lot more to this game that I just don't have to deal with, between my cover-in-place, easy rotation, high burst damage, easy-to-manage energy and no complicated mechanics to increase efficiency. At worst, I have to manage my zeroing shots, which is a fairly insignificant buff, followthrough (which is so cheap that its "always activate when you can) and the free snipe every so often for refreshing cover (which also refreshes intertial dampers). Missing any of those but a followthrough is pretty unimportant, and followthrough is pretty forgiving. Oh, and I guess I need to drop my anti-armor debuff on a target sometimes, more if its healing. Pretty drat easy, but that huge post about how to heal effectively made me think that I've got it uniquely easy. "Shoot weak stuff first in an non-terrible manner, don't shoot cc'd things" is, well, simple as poo poo, and this is my first MMO.
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Jun 11, 2013 20:28
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Blasphemaster posted:I hated having to fight Revan, especially as the Revanite. Wish there had been an option to go "Screw you guys, I'm siding with Revan!"
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Jun 11, 2013 20:49
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If you want a high effort alt, make an assassin tank. If you just want a different experience, maybe try a jedi guardian to see the other side of the game. My first playthrough was a BH and now I'm enjoying smacking things with lightsabers as a change of pace. I also have an operative alt that just hit 10. Is concealment a viable leveling build these days? I'll probably respec heals later, but I'd rather solo pve as the sneakiest motherfucker around.
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Jun 11, 2013 20:57
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Promethium posted:Saber Reflect is the best thing, trivializes so many otherwise annoying hard mode pulls. I only wish it had a decent animation. Incorrect, force shroud is the best thing as it allows you to laugh at many phases in boss fights. Death from above is the best animation though.
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Jun 11, 2013 21:03
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hobbesmaster posted:Incorrect, force shroud is the best thing as it allows you to laugh at many phases in boss fights. While Death from above is rad, I'm a big fan of the flechette round loading and the rocket punch animations. There is just something about a jetpack assisted punch 
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Jun 11, 2013 21:05
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JayJay posted:Going to give this one more try before I join some random pub guild for the XP boost. "Rahmus does not exist." according to the JC friends list program. Send Jeyte a tell tonight I guess? I'll be sleeping after 8 Pacific, but I should be on most of the night.
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Jun 11, 2013 21:10
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hobbesmaster posted:Incorrect, force shroud is the best thing as it allows you to laugh at many phases in boss fights. This makes the bonus boss in Hammer Station way easier. Pop force shroud when he Rampages, and he stops as soon as you hit him. Much less damage to the group. You can basically avoid 3 out of 4 of them (force shroud and the CC break).
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Concealment Op is not only totally viable, but I feel spoiled when I try to play any other spec/class. It is the single target, "wait, the mob can attack?" king. H2s are a joke, and if an H4 involves grabbing/destroying objects or involves bots/humans, I will sit there at the keyboard cackling because it feels like cheating. Then you Sleep Dart a champion guarding a chest and make off with the loot. It's the only class where I feel comfortable running with a DPS comp and only have to heal if I get lazy. That said, it's slower. I line up pulls, I get through packs by CCing most of them and stabbing them one at a time. It's not like my Jugg where I'll be tapping keys after a Smash only to realize all the mobs are dead. Also, Hidden Strike needs to be proc-able outside of Stealth because my DPS in groups is kinda crap. And PvP? I'll only kill someone if I get off two rotations. But that's not my job. My job is to get the entire team chasing after me after I Incapacitate their healer and Flash Grenade a pack of Sentinels only to vanish while someone else is capping.
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Jun 11, 2013 22:51
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Rascyc posted:I guess my view is probably biased in that I always heal for my 5-mans just to avoid those situations. I feel like I can account for almost any level of stupidity in a normal FP, short of a mob train. A big part of the reason I switched to tanking is because the Tank seems to be the weak link the majority of the time. DPS can be off in outer space doing whatever, but if they don't break CC then they aren't actively harming you. Tanks I feel like can do that easily.
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Bag of Hamsters posted:Concealment Op is not only totally viable, but I feel spoiled when I try to play any other spec/class. It is the single target, "wait, the mob can attack?" king. H2s are a joke, and if an H4 involves grabbing/destroying objects or involves bots/humans, I will sit there at the keyboard cackling because it feels like cheating. Then you Sleep Dart a champion guarding a chest and make off with the loot. It's the only class where I feel comfortable running with a DPS comp and only have to heal if I get lazy. Roll a sin/shadow and not only can you do all of the H2/H4s but you are also one of the best pvp classes. Flashbangs are cool but an aoe taunt is a 30% damage reduction on your team around a cap point. You can vanish you start taking too much damage.
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So, in Sith Warrior story during Taris You get the chance of sparing the first general if you allow his men to continue on the project. Pretty much the "ultimate" light side option that you get if you allow the miners to stay as they call a silent alarm. What does this entail? Even asking him about the project will get you in combat but does this choice have actual consequences within the storyline? It feels like betrayal considering I don't have the necessary information to make an informed decision. But if I can "avoid" a war blabla I might want to take it. I have to reset the quest in order to get to the option again and I'll have to collect those transponders again, ugh. This is actually the most difficult choice in the story so far. Though, I still feel dumb over agonizing it.  Yeah, I got that... kinda. It seems a bit too fantasy even for Star Wars though. Well, actually, on another thought, it kind of reminds me of Valley of the Jedi v Dessel fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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Dessel posted:So, in Sith Warrior story during Taris You get the chance of sparing the first general if you allow his men to continue on the project. Pretty much the "ultimate" light side option that you get if you allow the miners to stay as they call a silent alarm. What does this entail? Even asking him about the project will get you in combat but does this choice have actual consequences within the storyline? It feels like betrayal considering I don't have the necessary information to make an informed decision. But if I can "avoid" a war blabla I might want to take it. I have to reset the quest in order to get to the option again and I'll have to collect those transponders again, ugh. It's not gonna make a difference. You'll get a differently worded email a few hours later maybe. But seriously dude the republic project is pretty much implied to be powered using people's souls or something (at least, I can't think of any other reason the only source of this energy would be centuries-dead remains of genocided Tarisians), if you're light side you need to be destroying that poo poo.
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2.2 patch notes are out. All cartel packs are going away it seems ("embargoed"). Im trying to decide if its worth it to pick some up tonight and resell after the patch.
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Jun 12, 2013 00:25
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Kaysette posted:I also have an operative alt that just hit 10. Is concealment a viable leveling build these days? I'll probably respec heals later, but I'd rather solo pve as the sneakiest motherfucker around. I leveled concealment back in the day and still solo in that spec, works great for me.
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Stan S. Stanman posted:2.2 patch notes are out. All cartel packs are going away it seems ("embargoed"). Im trying to decide if its worth it to pick some up tonight and resell after the patch. Aren't they only going away for a while, though?
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I think just the first batch of packs are going away. Anyways, here is the stuff in the new packs: http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20130611 That assault cannon is pretty sweet.
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Jun 12, 2013 01:26
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Yeah the Assault Cannon looks badass. I've been trying to find an assault cannon off GTN that actually looks cool, but with little look. The Bunker Busters would look cooler if the cannons themselves had more detail, but I'm a sucker for the hologram readout thingy.
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Rookersh posted:"Rahmus does not exist." according to the JC friends list program. Weird, I can't friend you either. Not sure what is going on. Edit: Oh wait, i'm an imperial. Is TNG a republic guild? The OP said it wasn't. Or are you not TNG. So confused.
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Jun 12, 2013 01:49
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You have to be online at the same time or else it gives the "does not exist" error.
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Eltoasto posted:I think just the first batch of packs are going away. Anyways, here is the stuff in the new packs:
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Al Baron posted:So are they ever going to give us Covert Pants? Don't they already exist? Also,    
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JayJay posted:Weird, I can't friend you either. Not sure what is going on. Me and Jeyte are in Prime-Defense, which is the JC Pub guild with a bunch of goons in it. TNG is the Imperial guild. Sorry for that, I was confused at first too.
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Posting for an invite for my Consular, Suex. (It's pronounced "Sue".) (Like from "A Boy Named Sue".) (And constantly mispronounced "Sucks".) (Which is why he's mad as hell and evil as gently caress.  )
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