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One from Avengers: When Captain America is fistfighting Loki in Germany, Black Widow is overhead in a SHIELD gunship. As Iron Man comes to join the fight, he hacks the gunship's PA system to play "Shoot to Thrill". Look at Captain America's expression when he first hears the music just before Iron Man lands. To us, AC/DC is classic rock, they play it on oldies stations these days. But Captain America doesn't even recognize it as music, to him, Frank Sinatra is as metal as it can get and still be called music, and AC/DC is just some godawful racket.
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mind the walrus posted:It was immediately apparent to anyone who knows the character that he wasn't using alcohol as a salve except in that one scene where he's getting a bottle of wine out of his GIANT cooler and that Marvel/Disney went out of their way to expunge any alcohol abuse from his character. It's pretty sad, in a way. The movie was rife with great characterization and character development regardless, but there's almost something inherently pitiful about our society when the need for marketing exceeds the need to be honest about the human experience. Not to say Iron Man 3 wasn't honest, at least via the character Tony Stark... just that it could have been a nice commentary on vice and wealth in relation to genuine issues like PTSD and trying to be a better human being. I dunno...in the first and second movies he's still shown drinking alcohol, sometimes to excess. I think it was in 2 that he was in one of his suits at this big party, and very visibly drunk off his rear end, and Rhodie ended up getting in a fight with him. I can understand the PTSD stuff and it would fit with his character considering what he's been through, but Marvel/Disney never really outright took booze out of the equation as far as I could tell. Anyways, I watched Shutter Island a second time and at the very end, something stuck out more - when Laeddis is talking with Sheehan, right after his "don't worry partner" line. It appears that Laeddis has regressed, but to me it sounded more like he said that line on purpose, and something finally clicked that made him NOT want to keep acting out events, remembering the deaths of his wife and kids, and going through a whole role play every few months. When he looked at Sheehan and said "Which would be worse...to live as a monster, or die as a good man?" and gave him a little glance, his expression changed slightly and he never responded after when he was called Teddy.
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I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness. I knew the "basic" uniform shirts they all wear has some kind of textured pattern to it, but I didn't notice until last night that the pattern is a poo poo-ton of little repeated "Starfleet logos, just like their badges.
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May 18, 2013 18:51
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mind the walrus posted:It was immediately apparent to anyone who knows the character that he wasn't using alcohol as a salve except in that one scene where he's getting a bottle of wine out of his GIANT cooler and that Marvel/Disney went out of their way to expunge any alcohol abuse from his character. It's pretty sad, in a way. The movie was rife with great characterization and character development regardless, but there's almost something inherently pitiful about our society when the need for marketing exceeds the need to be honest about the human experience. Not to say Iron Man 3 wasn't honest, at least via the character Tony Stark... just that it could have been a nice commentary on vice and wealth in relation to genuine issues like PTSD and trying to be a better human being. Uh, did you miss the part in the beginning of 3 where Tony blows off Guy Pearce's character at least in part because he's drunk off his rear end?
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May 18, 2013 23:42
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Didn't they resolve the alcoholism subplot in 2? I remember there was a pretty good post about it, pointing out how his new arc reactor was made to look like an AA token.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Didn't they resolve the alcoholism subplot in 2? I remember there was a pretty good post about it, pointing out how his new arc reactor was made to look like an AA token. Yes, but the start of Iron Man 3 takes place in 1999.
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DrBouvenstein posted:I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness. Fun non-spoiler moment from Into Darkness is how in a scene with Scotty hanging out in a bar he's dressed as the spitting image of Gene Roddenberry in the 70s.
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Ozz81 posted:Anyways, I watched Shutter Island a second time and at the very end, something stuck out more - when Laeddis is talking with Sheehan, right after his "don't worry partner" line. It appears that Laeddis has regressed, but to me it sounded more like he said that line on purpose, and something finally clicked that made him NOT want to keep acting out events, remembering the deaths of his wife and kids, and going through a whole role play every few months. When he looked at Sheehan and said "Which would be worse...to live as a monster, or die as a good man?" and gave him a little glance, his expression changed slightly and he never responded after when he was called Teddy. Notably, this is different from the end of the book, where Laeddis has just clearly regressed and there's no option left but to go through with the lobotomy. The movie's ending significantly changes the tone of the whole scene.
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DrBouvenstein posted:I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness. Different movie, but on a similar note- the opening credits sequence for Casino Royale is stuffed to the brim with gambling and cart suit symbols; bad guys bleeding hearts, diamonds as flying blades, etc. Well, one little touch I didn't notice until I watched it on Blu-Ray is that, at one point, a screen pops up reading "James Bond: 007 Status Confirmed". Each tiny pixel on this screen is a club. 
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In Dredd, one of the conditions given to Anderson is that she has to retain control of her primary weapon, and of course if this isn't accomplished, she fails and does not become a Judge. Just to show Dredd's mastery of his life as a Judge, when he's fighting the corrupt Judges, he never once lets his weapon get taken away from him, or drops it. In the fight with Alvarez, he only lets go of his weapon in order to buy more time so Anderson can shoot Alvarez.
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Low Desert Punk posted:In Dredd, one of the conditions given to Anderson is that she has to retain control of her primary weapon, and of course if this isn't accomplished, she fails and does not become a Judge. More importantly, Anderson has her Lawgiver taken from her by a perp, but Dredd doesn't fail her. He recognises that as a telepath, her primary weapon isn't her gun.
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1stGear posted:Notably, this is different from the end of the book, where Laeddis has just clearly regressed and there's no option left but to go through with the lobotomy. The movie's ending significantly changes the tone of the whole scene. I think I actually prefer the movie ending to the book. To me it's more ambiguous and left to the viewer to decide which is the truth. I liked the book but I didn't care for how the ending was spelled out for the reader.
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Low Desert Punk posted:In Dredd, one of the conditions given to Anderson is that she has to retain control of her primary weapon, and of course if this isn't accomplished, she fails and does not become a Judge. May favorite moment is when they do the drug bust in the apartment, and Anderson scans the one perp's mind, she points out that the guy was involved with the murders they're investigating. The perp starts looking her over, and Dredd tells the guy to confess to save him the trouble of filling out paper work. But the little moment I love is that Dredd stepped in between Anderson and the perp. It shows that ol Stoneyface does have a heart, albeit a small one.
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Again on Dredd: You see two close-ups of both Dredd's and Anderson's Lawgivers - one is just before Dredd encounters the corrupt Judge, Chan, and kills him, and you see the ammo types and how they are all low on his presumably last magazine, because he's been shooting a lot. The other shot is of Anderson's Lawgiver just before Kay e: (almost) kills himself with her's, and you can see she's full up on her magazine. I thought it was a nice touch. edit: Watching it again, of course they ruin all that with a split-second view of Dredd's gun fully stocked. old bean factory has a new favorite as of 20:13 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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Not so much 'subtle', but hilarious. In Urban Legend there is a scene where a girl who acts as an agony aunt on the radio is being stalked through the station. Before the killer shows up she is talking to 2 students with the following problem: "Hello, we need help. We were trying something new from the Karma Sutra and he got stuck..." "I DIDN'T GET STUCK, YOU GOT STUCK!" "SHUT UP, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!" and so on and so forth. Best call in ever.
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A channel I was watching (FX, I think) was showing an ad for a Superbad airing, and I never noticed before but in the fake ID McLovin gets he has his glasses on.
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In The Shining, the magazine Jack reads while awaiting his interview to get the job watching the hotel is a Playgirl with a cover story about incest abuse between parents and children. Jack is reading female/gay porn with dozens of people walking around him. Knowing Kubrick this was simultaneously supposed to give you the impression that everyone involved in this has done it before or is not there, and also hinting about Jack's sexual abuse. Rob Ager's collective learning on the shiningThe Maze in The Shining is completely missing from all shots of the exterior of the hotel from afar. In Shutter Island not one person looks up at DiCaprio's character as he enters the grounds to the hospital. It is because they know who he is and he's been there before. Imagine entering a prison or mental ward and no one paying attention to you, the only reason they wouldn't is because they know you. It's not a subtle movie but the moment he enters is when I figured it out. I'm glad the director was not trying to hide it. In The Mist everything the crazy religious lady says comes true. The son needs to die in order for the mist to be absolved. Also If you notice, the army is retreating in the end, not advancing. The base is in the opposite direction. The old ones have won. mugrim has a new favorite as of 22:02 on Jun 11, 2013 |
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For all the Shaun of the Dead bits mentioned, I'm surprised no one brought up that the restaurant that Shaun tries to get reservations for is Fulci's which is a reference to Lucio Fulci the director of quite a few Italian zombie films or that when Shaun goes into work it's commented that Ash called in which could likely be a reference to Ash from the Evil Dead series.
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M_Sinistrari posted:For all the Shaun of the Dead bits mentioned, I'm surprised no one brought up that the restaurant that Shaun tries to get reservations for is Fulci's which is a reference to Lucio Fulci the director of quite a few Italian zombie films or that when Shaun goes into work it's commented that Ash called in which could likely be a reference to Ash from the Evil Dead series. As well as the electronics shop Shaun works in being called Foree electronics after Ken Foree from the original Dawn of the Dead
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I just watched Memento again, and noticed that when Natalie writes the note to tell Lenny to meet her, she writes it with one of those mascara pencils, because she hid all the pens earlier
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Really, the entirety of Shaun of the Dead could be in this thread. Near the end, when the zombies break in and they're shooting at them with the rifle, Shaun yells out "Get behind me, get behind me" like Han Solo. Also, the instructions they give him are identical to the ones Shaun gives Ed when he's playing Timesplitters 2: "Top left!" "Reload""I'm on it" "Oh, nice shot!" God, I love Shaun of the Dead.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Really, the entirety of Shaun of the Dead could be in this thread. Near the end, when the zombies break in and they're shooting at them with the rifle, Shaun yells out "Get behind me, get behind me" like Han Solo. Also, the instructions they give him are identical to the ones Shaun gives Ed when he's playing Timesplitters 2: "Top left!" "Reload""I'm on it" "Oh, nice shot!" Nearly every line of dialogue in that movie has a double meaning or a hidden reference or something. One of my favourites is after Pete yells at Ed at the beginning Ed says "Next time I see him, he's dead". And sure enough...
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Both Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are Astoundingly Self-Referential: The Film of the Book, and I'm expecting World's End to be no different.
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Someone posted earlier about Kill Bill, while I haven't noticed any sword holders on planes yet, I HAVE noticed that there are a lot of extras, such as police, that carry swords instead of guns. Also, at the end of the huge restaurant fight, Uma Thurman tells the survivors to leave. One of them just staggers around and doesn't follow the others, however, because he was the one that had his eyes cut/ torn out during the fight!
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I think that might have been me. I've rewatched it since - I was actually afraid I'd made a mistake until they did show up, you really have to look very closely and it's in something like one brief transition scene.
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Professor Shark posted:Someone posted earlier about Kill Bill, while I haven't noticed any sword holders on planes yet, I HAVE noticed that there are a lot of extras, such as police, that carry swords instead of guns. Also, at the end of the huge restaurant fight, Uma Thurman tells the survivors to leave. One of them just staggers around and doesn't follow the others, however, because he was the one that had his eyes cut/ torn out during the fight! There's a couple more. The first is that apart from Michael Madsen the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad are all women, and the acronym for the group can be pronounced "Divas". The other is that in Kill Bill Part 2 Bill is the only person the Bride kills.
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I should have waited before posting, I saw them in the last scene!
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This may not be subtle as I thought, but in Cabin in the Woods, specifically the motor bike scene: The anti-tension created by us knowing there is a literal invisible wall is a play on the fact that in regular horror movies, these dramatic, over the top scenes still have zero tension because we know the good guy isn't going to make it - so there's a figurative invisible wall there in a sense. We know the plot will not allow him to get across, so none of the scenes invoke tension anyway. The literal invisible wall might as well exist in all horror films.
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Reading this is actually creeping me out more than the movie ever did, good find!
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toxicsunset posted:This may not be subtle as I thought, but in Cabin in the Woods, specifically the motor bike scene: I went into this movie expecting just another example of why I'm not a fan of most horror movies, but it proved me wrong and I laughed my way all the way through.
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toxicsunset posted:This may not be subtle as I thought, but in Cabin in the Woods, specifically the motor bike scene: I've noticed the tension amongst some people I've seen the movie with anyway as they had forgotten the wall was there by that point.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I've noticed the tension amongst some people I've seen the movie with anyway as they had forgotten the wall was there by that point.
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Ez posted:Nearly every line of dialogue in that movie has a double meaning or a hidden reference or something. One of my favourites is after Pete yells at Ed at the beginning Ed says "Next time I see him, he's dead". And sure enough... What Pete yells is "If you wanna live like an animal, GO LIVE IN THE SHED!" Which is another setup.
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I thought it was pretty cool how in There Will Be Blood, during the end bowling alley scene, when Eli is begging for money saying "I must have this, I must, I must...If I could take Gods hand and ask him for forgiveness, I would..." Daniel was digging through his pockets, as if he were going to give him cash, but literally as soon as Eli says the word 'God' he stops and starts to insult him even more.
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Taeke posted:I went into this movie expecting just another example of why I'm not a fan of most horror movies, but it proved me wrong and I laughed my way all the way through. Arguably the best part of that scene is the ridiculous heroic music.
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I have encountered so many people who thought Cabin in the Woods was supposed to be a really serious horror movie and they say things like "It was so stupid" and "It was dumb! I LAUGHED the whole time! I wasn't scared at all!!" And I never know what to say to them 
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mugrim posted:In The Shining, the magazine Jack reads while awaiting his interview to get the job watching the hotel is a Playgirl with a cover story about incest abuse between parents and children. Jack is reading female/gay porn with dozens of people walking around him. Knowing Kubrick this was simultaneously supposed to give you the impression that everyone involved in this has done it before or is not there, and also hinting about Jack's sexual abuse. Those are all great examples of movies filled with subtle moments. Good post. There's a website somewhere devoted to The Shining that deconstructs everything in it almost to the point of insanity, but I watched it again recently and for the first time really noticed the symmetry in almost every single shot. Reminded me of Moonrise Kingdom where every single shot is reflected on the y axis. Shutter Island was pretty great but I doubt I would have enjoyed it as much had I not read the book first, where usually that's the exact opposite situation. I think the book does a better job with the overall set up and the reveal but you're right. When you watch it again all of the clues, facial expressions, tics and non responses really ring out loud.
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Buzkashi posted:Arguably the best part of that scene is the ridiculous heroic music. It's everything. The whole movie is just a comedy spoofing horror movies to me. Hell, the whole thing where all possible horror movie tropes are included, and why, is just hilarious.
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Of course Josh Lyman being eaten by a mermaid, and the look on his face as he realizes the irony was amazing. Also, the Sugarplum Fairy was a genuinely creepy character.
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I really really wish that in Cabin in the woods the reveal of the mermaid had been creepier, like I've seen creepier versions on Adventure Time and Flapjack. I get that it was going for humor and irony, but the rest of the monster designs in that movie were great.
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