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That side profile looks like a child drew the roof way too short. It looks silly. The front profile is nice though and I like the copper/matte black color choice.
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Hog Obituary posted:Chris Harris drives the new 991 GT3 with the flappy paddles It sounds like a GT3, which is the point. Porsche 911's never sound that exciting because they're only flat sixes. My favorite Porsche sound is actually the turbo because it covers the flat six sound almost entirely. Not because a flat six doesn't sound nice, but because it sounds like a jet fighter. That is just awesome. In sadder news: Jason Leffler lost his life tonight. In times like this we need to learn from what happened to ensure it doesn't happen again. Not a NASCAR fan, but that doesn't matter in times like this. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/12/us/nascar-driver-killed/index.html
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Jun 13, 2013 08:05
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Hog Obituary posted:Something about that exhaust sound seems uninspiring and not worth the seconds they spend showing it... maybe I'm broken Keep in mind that this was a spur-of-the-moment kind of thing that Harris had to do 100% by himself. He's an auto journo, not a cinematographer.
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Kerrow posted:I posted a new Skoda Octavia some time ago, now they released the vRS (220HP, lowered) version. The exterior seems a little generic to me, but the interior looks absolutely fantastic. Black and white gauges are just so classy. 
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Jun 13, 2013 16:16
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All I see is a bunch of monochromatic grainy cheap plastic that would be lambasted in an American vehicle. It looks like the 2007 Pontiac G6 I sat in recently. Gauge clusters all looked like that in the early 1990s.
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Jun 13, 2013 17:28
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PBCrunch posted:All I see is a bunch of monochromatic grainy cheap plastic that would be lambasted in an American vehicle. It looks like the 2007 Pontiac G6 I sat in recently. I agree with you: boring, even a little on the ugly side but: Nearly all soft touch and indestructible with a nice quality feel. Have you ever put your rear end in a VW group car ? Not very daring design, but the interiors will outlast most everything else on the road.
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Jun 13, 2013 18:21
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Aurune posted:Porsche 911's never sound that exciting because they're only flat sixes. Aircooled 911s sound great, but to each his own.
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Jun 13, 2013 18:30
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PBCrunch posted:All I see is a bunch of monochromatic grainy cheap plastic that would be lambasted in an American vehicle. It looks like the 2007 Pontiac G6 I sat in recently. The interior pretty is much the same as the rental Jetta I drove a couple weeks ago.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:12
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PBCrunch posted:All I see is a bunch of monochromatic grainy cheap plastic that would be lambasted in an American vehicle. It looks like the 2007 Pontiac G6 I sat in recently. I've been in both a 2007 G6 (rental) and a ~2009 Skoda Octavia (taxi), and I can tell you that in person there is a tangible difference in quality. The Skoda has a much nicer interior, despite what you might think from the pictures.
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Jun 13, 2013 19:16
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Spatule posted:I agree with you: boring, even a little on the ugly side but: Are... Are you praising VW's soft touch interior?
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Here's a new concept from Toyota: Build Your Own Car http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/toyota-camatte57s-concept-gives-families-carbuilding-project-174451821.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQlzbn-o5vs I would buy the poo poo out of that
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Jun 13, 2013 20:01
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Spatule posted:I agree with you: boring, even a little on the ugly side but: I pulled the door handle off a 5-year-old New Beetle by attempting to close the door. It came off before the door even started moving. The plastic retaining tabs the the clips or whatever slide into snapped right off. Volkswagens are poo poo.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:03
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Might be luck but I've never been in a VW with anything broken. Many other brands, even on seemingly newish cars, yes (Volvo - a V60, Mercedes - a C Class, Nissan, Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet, Opel, Fiat, Renault, Peugeot etc etc). Given that VW is everywhere, it's unlikely it was pure luck.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:28
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Devyl posted:Are... Are you praising VW's soft touch interior? Yes, why ? Recent VWs such as the golf have really nice quality interiors. Not in the US ?
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Jun 13, 2013 20:32
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Spatule posted:Yes, why ? Recent VWs such as the golf have really nice quality interiors. Not in the US ? From what I've seen they're only nice when they are brand new - everything seems superficially good quality but wears out extremely quickly. Modern Skodas are actually better in that regard - they may not look as nice brand new but they do tend to last the distance better.
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Jun 13, 2013 20:59
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Personal taste for interiors is obviously going to vary widely, but I felt that our base-model 2008 Jetta's interior was quite nice. The materials felt nice and it held up well over time. When we sold the car with 100k on it, there were still no rattles or squeaks and there were no broken bits. It was much, much nicer than the interior in my 2007 Mustang. The Mustang plastics felt super cheap and was a rattly mess by 60k, to the point that I unloaded a roll of foam tape under many of the panels in an effort to quiet it down. Note that I can't say the same about the Jetta's electrical system. Door lock motors, window regulators, and sun visors (due to the light in the mirror) were replaced several times. I should also note that I've driven a 2012 Jetta and the current generation got a noticeably cheaper interior as part of the downmarket move (that also brought back the 2.slow and the beam axle). The current Golf still retains the older, better interior materials.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:00
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Spatule posted:Yes, why ? Recent VWs such as the golf have really nice quality interiors. Not in the US ? Every VW I've owned has had the soft touch turn into a mess like this:  One accidental scratch or nick/ding and it's time to either replace the part or strip it down to the bare plastic & re-paint.
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Jun 13, 2013 22:15
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I'm utterly gobsmacked anyone doesnt love the poo poo out of a flat 6 at full cry.
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Jun 13, 2013 22:57
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The Skoda logo looks bad fuckin rear end in silver and black. Interiors are quite subjective. I like that interior. Looks like the NA Passat but less cheap.
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Jun 13, 2013 23:04
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Hog Obituary posted:Chris Harris drives the new 991 GT3 with the flappy paddles That is very nice. And it is really interesting to hear about the changes that Porsche did to the front end of the GT3 and the rear wheel steering. Also interesting to hear Chris' personal views on flappy paddle gearboxes
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Cat Terrist posted:I'm utterly gobsmacked anyone doesnt love the poo poo out of a flat 6 at full cry. I never really liked the sound of Porsche engines much, outside of the Turbos. That GT3 sounds pretty good revved out, but when you compare it to the sound of a C6R Corvette, or any Aston, or an AMG62/63 or any V12, or most v10s, or an MV Agusta i4... well it sounds better than an M3 at least. I think loving Porsche sounds goes hand in hand with loving Porsches. If you don't love Porsches, by extension you don't love Porsche sounds. Maybe that's just me. Probably.
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Jun 14, 2013 05:49
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Confirmed: Audi is the new
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Says "illicitencounters.com." Definitely a reliable source.
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You Am I posted:That is very nice. And it is really interesting to hear about the changes that Porsche did to the front end of the GT3 and the rear wheel steering. Also interesting to hear Chris' personal views on flappy paddle gearboxes I'm surprised he didn't test the 'clutch kick' feature.
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I seem to recall Top Gear already warning us that cocks were now driving Audis.
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Speaking of BMW, the 4-series photos are out. Not sure how it relates to the thread title, but compare and contrast yourself:  http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/14/2014-bmw-4-series-coupe-images-leak-out/
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It really doesn't need that tiny pecker of a side fender vent. Looks autozone stick-on inspired. e: VVV It looks like it already has signal repeaters in the mirrors. The black piece just looks like more vent-fad. VVV Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jun 14, 2013 |
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Huh, I thought that was a side-mounted turn signal doohickey.
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SouthLAnd posted:It really doesn't need that tiny pecker of a side fender vent. Looks autozone stick-on inspired. Supposedly it's functional.
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Cream_Filling posted:Supposedly it's functional. It's supposed to reduce drag, according to this. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2012/12/bmw4-20121206.html posted:The Air Breather, an aerodynamically effective aperture behind the front wheels, works in tandem with the Air Curtain in the front apron to provide an effective reduction in drag around the wheels.
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SouthLAnd posted:It really doesn't need that tiny pecker of a side fender vent. Looks autozone stick-on inspired. Ahaha I looked at the pic, saw your comment, went back to the 3-series coupe picture and was all "I don't see a vent!" 
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mobby_6kl posted:Speaking of BMW, the 4-series photos are out. Not sure how it relates to the thread title, but compare and contrast yourself: That's a nice looking car for sure, but I think I'll wait for the 3-Series coupe to come out instead.  I know there isn't going to be a 3er coupe
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MrChips posted:That's a nice looking car for sure, but I think I'll wait for the 3-Series coupe to come out instead. But you will be able to get 4 series sedan 
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Crustashio posted:But you will be able to get 4 series sedan And a 2-series coupe...I think.
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BMW Press Release posted:The "4" in its title headlines this new product line for the Coupe and emphasizes not only its stand-out design, but that any way you look at it, the new 4 Series Coupe represents something more than its BMW 3 Series cousins – 3+1, if you will. 
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Pricing released for new Nissan hatch: starts at $14,780 (cheaper than pretty much every subcompact hatchback except the Kia Rio, including the previous-gen Versa hatchback) with roll-up windows and manual locks, but includes the proper number of pedals. For some reason the clutch pedal has been omitted on all but the base model. Here, read this
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Goddamn is that an ugly car.
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It looks loving awesome compared to that new Mirage.
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The Mirage is bland ugly but the new Versa looks like a scrunched up Quest. I guess that's what they were going for with the Nissan design language but it has serious pug face.
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Amazing how Ford and GM (Fiesta/Spark) are making the most appealing tiny cars these days. Edit: that's now fair, the Hyundai/KIA twins are pretty sweet.
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