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Prison Warden posted:Magellan's always been paramecia, and people have been saying that since day one. Some people thought he was a logia, but to be a logia you have to control and be made of your "element". Luffy is made of rubber, but he cant like, make tyres and throw them at people. Magellan's power is like Mr 3's, he just secretes poison. Whoa, Mr. 3 isn't also logia? I guess it is true that Luffy did punch both Mr. 3 and Magellan without haki. Petiso posted:Luffy's body has the properties of rubber but it ISN'T rubber, nor he can turn into rubber. I don't see how he isn't rubber. I guess I see the part about being unable to say generate rubber like how some logias can make components of their body that don't count as their body and Luffy can't produce rubber. I still find the line between Logia-like Paramecia and full Logia types somewhat arbitrary, but I guess it boils down to if they can be affected by things outside of their natural counter and the power of the sea - ie, can Luffy punch them.
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Luffy, Magellan and Mr. 3 can never change their bodies so they have no internal organs and are composed only of rubber, poison or wax - full proper logias like Smoker and Ceaser can.
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Shadow0 posted:I don't see how he isn't rubber. I guess I see the part about being unable to say generate rubber like how some logias can make components of their body that don't count as their body and Luffy can't produce rubber. I still find the line between Logia-like Paramecia and full Logia types somewhat arbitrary, but I guess it boils down to if they can be affected by things outside of their natural counter and the power of the sea - ie, can Luffy punch them. You may as well say "Luffy is rubber" and be satisfied with that. There's definitely a distinction between Logias and those few Paramecias that make you think "oh, a Logia user" when you first see them. An easy way to separate Logias from Paramecias is to see whether their element/substance is naturally-occurring or a manufactured substance. That covers fruits like Magellan's poison and Mr. 3's wax. It also explains more exotic Logias like Caribou's swamp fruit (water and earth) and Blackbeard's Darkness fruit (probably as exotic as a Logia could get - the ability to turn into and produce a fundamental force). tsob posted:Luffy, Magellan and Mr. 3 can never change their bodies so they have no internal organs and are composed only of rubber, poison or wax - full proper logias like Smoker and Ceaser can. Yeah, this is one of those weird quirks... Their bodies take on the properties of their fruit (see Mr. 3 lighting his hair-wick or Magellan being immune to poison and gaining a taste for poisoned food), but they can't physically become their element. Like, Magellan wouldn't be able to turn into a puddle of poison and splash around everywhere, but he could project a huge wave of poison and hang ten on it. Although they definitely still have organs - poor Magellan still has to go to the bathroom. DizzyBum fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 21, 2013 |
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tsob posted:Luffy, Magellan and Mr. 3 can never change their bodies so they have no internal organs and are composed only of rubber, poison or wax - full proper logias like Smoker and Ceaser can. Well Magellan and Mr 3 are not literally made of poison and wax, they just produce it. Luffy is made of rubber but he has no control over the amount of rubberiness he has, he can't switch it off or produce more rubber like a Logia could.
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DizzyBum posted:(see Mr. 3 lighting his hair-wick or Magellan being immune to poison and gaining a taste for poisoned food) He didn't gain a taste for poison food, he just thought he was supposed to eat poison food because he's a poison man. 
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DizzyBum posted:Monet's snow fruit (a different form of ice) You might want to spoil that. I guess I still considered rubber, wax, and poison to be naturally occurring elements. Shortly after I brought it up, I tried to figure out what the terms were supposed to actually mean and found Logia is 自然系 "nature system", while Paramecia is 超人系 "superhuman system", which sounds a lot more powerful in English, haha. (Zoan is just 動物系 "animal system"). So I guess if you get some kind of logia-like fruit, if it is not a "natural" thing, then Nami can punch you. edit: Unless your Blackbeard Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jun 2, 2013 |
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May 27, 2013 23:29
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New Episode's up. Lot's of  and it turns out the samurai is pretty cool.
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Blackbeard is a logia exception. He cannot actually become intangible like other logia-types can because his particular powers prevent it by draW in damage and actually hurting him MORE in the exchange. He maintains a human form and darkness kinda oozes around him like Magellan's poison. At the same time he is considered a logia because he controls a basic natural force (gravity).
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drat.  81 is a hell of an age to be voice acting, but it was an appropriately awesome role at least.
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Jun 9, 2013 02:48
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It looks like this Vergo guy has Law's heart? I'm following along with the manga and it doesn't show this at all, what's the deal.
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It was definitely in the manga, you just dont remember I guess.
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KoB posted:It was definitely in the manga, you just dont remember I guess. I don't read ahead, I watch a few episodes then read the accompanying chapters. The chapters don't show him having his heart where the episodes do, thought it was pretty strange since it seems like a pretty big reveal.
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Jun 14, 2013 03:30
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New episode: http://onepieceofficial.com/videos.aspx 
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Not his best disguise...
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Crazyeyes posted:Not his best disguise...  He's getting better. I forgot how different he looked back then.
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ArcaneTree posted:
I think at the time Oda was specifically trying not to make Chopper a cute anime mascot, but then he slowly evolved into one anyway.
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Drakkel posted:I think at the time Oda was specifically trying not to make Chopper a cute anime mascot, but then he slowly evolved into one anyway. If you look at some of his early concept sketches, even early Chopper is more mascoty than proto-Chopper who was more like you would think a Reindeerman would look in Oda style. I think he had a sword too?
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I think I remember seeing a picture of something that looked like Franky-Chopper with a cigar in its mouth. Not sure where I saw it, or if it was concept art. A cursory search of Google Images didn't find it either.
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Silento posted:I think I remember seeing a picture of something that looked like Franky-Chopper with a cigar in its mouth. Not sure where I saw it, or if it was concept art. A cursory search of Google Images didn't find it either.  this?
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No, it was sized like current Chopper but it had the face of an adult male. I might have seen it in a nightmare caused by the Franky/Chopper body swap, who knows?
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Like the body of a reindeer but a head of a human?  
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Jun 19, 2013 01:37
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Kild posted:
I like how much Usopp looks like Blackbeard in this.
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Kild posted:Like the body of a reindeer but a head of a human? Yea, this looks like it.
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 Well, there's this. I think there were some other crossovers with other characters and Chopper, but Chopper is a plague. I know so many people that don't know what One Piece is about that have Chopper dolls or phone charms or whatever because he's "cute". There are also a lot of Hello Kitty x Chopper crossovers.
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They forced Oda to make a mascot and he hated it until he realized that the mascot can actually be a good character as well.
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The first Con I went to like 4 or 5 years ago I got really pissed at chopper because that was the ONLY One Piece stuff they had. It's gotten much better since then though.
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Senor Candle posted:The first Con I went to like 4 or 5 years ago I got really pissed at chopper because that was the ONLY One Piece stuff they had. It's gotten much better since then though. Don't ever come to Japan then.
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So.. When are we going to get a new opening?
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ArcaneTree posted:So.. When are we going to get a new opening? We already did, but for some reason funimation doesn't air it.
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KoB posted:We already did, but for some reason funimation doesn't air it. I wonder if it's some kind of licensing issue. It weirded me out because I spent May in Japan and saw the new opening on broadcast, but when I came back the new episodes online still had We Go. Here's the new one if you haven't seen it. It's one of my favorites now.
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Zombie Samurai posted:I wonder if it's some kind of licensing issue. It weirded me out because I spent May in Japan and saw the new opening on broadcast, but when I came back the new episodes online still had We Go. Are there any spoilers in it?
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ArcaneTree posted:Are there any spoilers in it? It's got some scenes from the first half of the Punk Hazard arc.
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It was pretty good, sure glad I didn't watch that earlier though, spoils the Law and Doflimingo reveals. Do animation companies just assume people read the manga?
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ArcaneTree posted:It was pretty good, sure glad I didn't watch that earlier though, spoils the Law and Doflimingo reveals. It's Japans best selling manga by a huge factor so probably.
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That and anime tends to not do a lot of fretting about spoilers. Admittedly less so nowadays, but a few decades ago it'd be fairly common to have episode previews that literally say stuff like "In the next episode, this happens and this character dies".
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Srice posted:That and anime tends to not do a lot of fretting about spoilers. Admittedly less so nowadays, but a few decades ago it'd be fairly common to have episode previews that literally say stuff like "In the next episode, this happens and this character dies". There is literally an episode of Dragon Ball Z titled "The death of Vegeta," and the episode previews for it had the narrator going "Is this the end of Vegeta? Has Freiza finally done what no one else could?" And then the episode title popped up. I don't think anything is quite that bad these days.
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One of the first few openings spoiled Robin being in the crew like way before Alabasta even started.
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KoB posted:One of the first few openings spoiled Robin being in the crew like way before Alabasta even started. The third, though it was actually really close to the end, like ten episodes before Alabasta wrapped up and Robin joined. Still ruined the twist. Also one of the better openings.
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Srice posted:That and anime tends to not do a lot of fretting about spoilers. Admittedly less so nowadays, but a few decades ago it'd be fairly common to have episode previews that literally say stuff like "In the next episode, this happens and this character dies". Legend of the Galactic Heroes did it as well, though less with episode titles and more with the end-of-episode narration, which is why I tend to suggest to new viewers that they skip the narrator foreshadowing at the end of each episode. Gurren Lagann actually subverted that annoying trope by having a spoilery episode title show up at the END of the episode. Hell, One Piece is no stranger to this as well with "The Death of Portgas D. Ace", though that one was more of a "yeah, he dead" since Ace had already been gored through the chest by a fist made of lava in the previous chapter/episode. edit: gnome7 posted:There is literally an episode of Dragon Ball Z titled "The death of Vegeta," and the episode previews for it had the narrator going "Is this the end of Vegeta? Has Freiza finally done what no one else could?" And then the episode title popped up. I don't think anything is quite that bad these days. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jun 22, 2013 |
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