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I never cared that much when he had a job in addition to the comic, but the whole thing is a grotesque self insert fantasy and even with it as his full time in he can barely update for weeks at a time. If that 500k kickstarter is legit he is really a huge sack of poo poo. Yes let's pay 500k for pencil drawing garbage that will never ever come out. He literally didn't have a finished cast page for 3/4 a decade, and only did then when a fan did it for him. He's a human slug.
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DamnGlitch posted:If that 500k kickstarter is legit he is really a huge sack of poo poo. Yes let's pay 500k for pencil drawing garbage that will never ever come out. Technically, the actual kickstarter "only" asked for 200k. 500k is the stretch goal to... add sex scenes? Yeah okay, I guess that really doesn't change anything.
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There is something uniquely off putting about saying "yeah I'm not into sex scenes... But if you pay me a poo poo load of money, I guess I could make some sex scenes*
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Jun 19, 2013 14:16
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It's such an unrespectable way to sell your kickstarter. He'll just end up having to pander to the wrong crowds and off put the general reader base.
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What the gently caress is megatokyo and why would people want a visual novel of it instead of something good like K-ON?
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Megatokyo is one of the early-ish wave of web-comics, that grew a huge audience by appealing directly to otaku sensibilities. It has somehow continued to linger on, despite zero art improvement, a sporadic (at best) update schedule, tedious writing, and a plot that goes nowhere. It's vaguely interesting that there's still people with 10s of thousands of dollars to invest in this, given the creator's record at delivering on promises.
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Namtab posted:What the gently caress is megatokyo and why would people want a visual novel of it instead of something good like K-ON? I'm not sure what to say about that last part of your sentence, but it's a web comic that's been around for more than a decade about nerds that get stuck in tokyo. It's done by a guy who used to be an architect and really liked(s/d) anime, and VNs. It'd be sorta cool if he treated it like a real job instead of living off his fan's goodwill and hadn't dale earnharted it into a weird self insert harem with his IRL friends as the supporting cast and himself as the protagonist and hadn't basically forced his former best friend off the project so he could have sole control, ownership and say in the content. He decided to make a VN about the characters in the comic (of which he is one). http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fredrin/megatokyo-visual-novel-game It's not so bad as I thought; the goal is 20k, and the porn goal is obviously a kinda sorta joke, in that way that it's intended to look like a joke but he really hopes they hit so he can get 500k for basically nothing. The whole thing looks like garbage, and the source material is both trash and refuse. It'll be an amusing cluster gently caress, if nothing else (the dev process, not the game. I doubt there will be anything funny about the game itself). Fred has the pacing and work ethic of a bad digestive tract. DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jun 19, 2013 |
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DamnGlitch posted:I'm not sure what to say about that last part of your sentence K-ON is amazing, and I would legitimately play any kind of visual novel that involves K-ON. Doesn't even have to be a dating sim it could be a murder mystery I wouldn't care.
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Namtab posted:K-ON is amazing, and I would legitimately play any kind of visual novel that involves K-ON. Doesn't even have to be a dating sim it could be a murder mystery I wouldn't care. Man, that is quite the opinion. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a less popular one on this thread other than "The Chaos;Head and Fate/Stay Night anime were both good."
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Namtab posted:K-ON is amazing, and I would legitimately play any kind of visual novel that involves K-ON. Doesn't even have to be a dating sim it could be a murder mystery I wouldn't care. Well a VN based on the K-On universe would at least be more interesting than the actual show. It has to be, you'd have to go out of your way to be as uninteresting as the show itself. 
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I kinda want to watch Chaos;Head just to see how bad it gets. I will probably regret it, but what the hell. The anime being bad is unfortunate because the VN has potential as an adaptation. The show could follow pretty much exactly the events of the anime (when we reach a delusion point, chose either the "Whose eyes are those eyes?" delusion or the neutral path) and add a legitimately ending different from the bullshit that was everything after Taku vicariously lives through the NewGen murders, and it would have been great. What differences were there between the show and the VN? ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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ViggyNash posted:I kinda want to watch Chaos;Head just to see how bad it gets. I will probably regret it, but what the hell. Anime original ending, iirc. Also pitiful animation/production values, the Chaos;Head anim is really bad. E: I liked the F/SN anime. Even if it misses a lot from the VN (which I'm barely into because it's wordy as gently caress) it's still pretty good imo.
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That kickstarter has me wondering. What VNs are there that put the seemingly obligatory sex scene to good use? I just ctrl through them when I see one, but I'm wondering if any of them justify their own existence as far as the story is concerned.
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As someone who is currently watching the Chaos;Head anime, it's pretty bad. Substandard animation, poor retelling of the story, and they fail to replicate the sense of mystery, of the paranoia Taku had. And worst of all is that loving horrible ending theme. Hey, remember the pretty good atmosphere Chaos;Head had? Well even if the show managed to accurately depict that it would have been completely, utterly ruined by this playing at the end of each episode... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0adSLdS8M4 I mean holy crap that is horrible just listen to that!! Stall_19 fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Jun 20, 2013 00:50
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I like the first bit until the terrible engrish.
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Although I haven't finished it yet I wouldn't mind an anime original ending as I felt Chaos;head had a pretty lackluster ending. As far as what I thought of the anime adaptations of VN's that I've read. Chaos;head-pretty bad Fate Stay Night-not horrible but not really that good Higurashi- pretty good Clannad- Amazing, better than the VN.
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unpronounceable posted:That kickstarter has me wondering. What VNs are there that put the seemingly obligatory sex scene to good use? I just ctrl through them when I see one, but I'm wondering if any of them justify their own existence as far as the story is concerned. I haven't played it, but Katawa Shoujo is sometimes cited as an example of this. Are tacked-on sex scenes still a thing anymore? It seems like the more recent major VNs (Rewrite, Mahoyo, Robotics;Notes) don't have them. Good riddance. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Silver2195 posted:I haven't played it, but Katawa Shoujo is sometimes cited as an example of this. One could make a pretty decent argument for it, yeah. At least I think so. This is coming from someone who really liked it though, so your opinions on the matter may, of course, vary.
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Stall_19 posted:As someone who is currently watching the Chaos;Head anime, it's pretty bad. Substandard animation, poor retelling of the story, and they fail to replicate the sense of mystery, of paranoid Taku had. Oh god. What cinematically incompetent morons made this show?
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Silver2195 posted:I haven't played it, but Katawa Shoujo is sometimes cited as an example of this. Katawa Shoujo easily has the best uses of their sex scenes. They aren't completely out of place like some Visual Novels I read (Fate/ Stay Night, Kara No Shoujo), aren't tacked on to confession scenes in every route. (Muv Luv, Kira Kira). It's nice to see some characters actually dating for some time before they have sex. Not to mention KS has the rare "we're never going to experiment with that again" scene.
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Stall_19 posted:And worst of all is that loving horrible ending theme. Hey, remember the pretty good atmosphere Chaos;Head had? Well even if the show managed to accurately depict that it would have been completely, utterly ruined by this playing at the end of each episode... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0adSLdS8M4 I mean holy crap that is horrible just listen to that!! As far as Katawa Shoujo goes, the relevance of the sex scenes varies by route, and also within routes. In Shizune's route, only one really isn't extraneous, but that one really matters and is connected to the only choice in the route.
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Wait, if Katawa Shoujo has the best used sex scenes, then I don't think I'm prepared for other VNs. Sure the buildup was there and there was always real relationship before it started happening, but it was still pretty awkward. I still remember the first Fate/SN sex scene. It was essentially "If you do not gently caress her she cannot win. Therefore, I am going to perform some very provocative lesbian foreplay to get you in the mood to gently caress her." Holy gently caress was that weird.
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Now that people bring it up, I do remember one of the Katawa Shoujo scenes being used well. In Hanako's route the whole scene was really awkward, and uncomfortable to read, which is perfectly in line with what I'd expect. What makes it good, though, is that it's the perfect lead into the end of the route.ViggyNash posted:I still remember the first Fate/SN sex scene.
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ViggyNash posted:Wait, if Katawa Shoujo has the best used sex scenes, then I don't think I'm prepared for other VNs. Sure the buildup was there and there was always real relationship before it started happening, but it was still pretty awkward. You will appreciate KS's use of those's scenes as you player more of the games. And god that first scene in Fate still ranks high on my "what the gently caress!?" scale.
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I dunno, it has to compete with Tsukihime going from a bedridden fever dream to violent rape in the space of a paragraph.
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DerLeo posted:I dunno, it has to compete with Tsukihime going from a bedridden fever dream to violent rape in the space of a paragraph. 「Ｍｙ ｌｉｍｐ ｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｉｓ ｕｎｖｅｉｌｅｄ ｆｏｒ ａｌｌ ｔｏ ｓｅｅ．」 It's a thing.
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That's probably enough talk about sex scenes. By the way, I've been pretty busy lately, so I haven't read much more of Higurashi, but what I've read has changed my view of things yet again. Rena must possessed/have a split personality/be on  , but Mion is perfectly sane and knows exactly what's going on. Having said that, Keiichi definitely has an exaggerated perception of events that puts a supernatural gloss on ordinary events; the TIPS bit with him remembering buying ramen at the store and describing it as though he was time travelling stood out as particularly bizarre. I don't think he's insane, exactly, just not thinking clearly at all.
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ViggyNash posted:Wait, if Katawa Shoujo has the best used sex scenes, then I don't think I'm prepared for other VNs. Sure the buildup was there and there was always real relationship before it started happening, but it was still pretty awkward. The sex in KS fits in very well with the story, and doesn't seem obligatory for the most part. The fact that it's awkward is because it's a bunch of highschoolers, which is accurate. The bad ones are like muv luv, where it's like "Confesssssioooon! *immediate sex*" They are all pretty terrible, but meiya's is the worst worst worst. You literally crash through a roof into a bed with her and then gently caress. It's so retarded I can't help think it was intentionally stupid.
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I suspect it was. There can be no other possibility, considering the style of the first MuvLuv.
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DamnGlitch posted:
Or the end of Chizuru's route where they just finished begging the principle to not kick her out of the school and what do they do immediately after that? THEY HAVE SEX IN A CLASSROOM! Silver2195 posted:That's probably enough talk about sex scenes. What chapter are you on? Stall_19 fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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The roof caving in and landing into a bed seems pretty plausible to me, however, nothing can excuse Chizuru showering with her glasses on.
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Stall_19 posted:Or the end of Chizuru's route where they just finished begging the principle to not kick her out of the school and what do they do immediately after that? THEY HAVE SEX IN A CLASSROOM! Still the first one.
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I just finished Clannad, which was surprisingly good for the most part. Is Tomoyo After worth getting? Seems like it's just bad ends in the normal edition and the Memorial Edition hasn't been translated yet.
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No, I wouldn't say it's all bad ends. There's a proper ending, and I wouldn't wait for the memorial edition to 'fix' it. Tomoyo After is a serious mess though. The middle is pretty okay but the beginning and end are both bad. Basically, when it's focusing on the new cast it's enjoyable enough but Tomoya and Tomoyo themselves are so bad in this. I wouldn't make it a priority as far as VNs go.
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Myriad Truths posted:No, I wouldn't say it's all bad ends. There's a proper ending, and I wouldn't wait for the memorial edition to 'fix' it. Tomoyo After is a serious mess though. The middle is pretty okay but the beginning and end are both bad. Basically, when it's focusing on the new cast it's enjoyable enough but Tomoya and Tomoyo themselves are so bad in this. I wouldn't make it a priority as far as VNs go. Like I said, the beginning is all sex and the ending comes completely out of nowhere. It's not KEY's best work.
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Stall_19 posted:So I was just casually browsing VNDB and was surprised to see that Kara no Shoujo had a related anime link......it's a loving straight up hentai. I....never considered the drat game to be like that... Basically, while a whole bunch of VNs are lucky enough to get clean adaptations, the ones that remain are taken by H-anime companies, whose industry basically collapsed a couple of years ago. You really can't try to fit a worthwhile plot + sex scenes in about 2/3 episodes and 20 minutes worth of run time but the VN companies probably figure ANY amount of money from licensing is better than nothing.
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