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OrganizedInsanity
May 30, 2013

by Ralp

PostNouveau posted:

Hmmm, the PUA book advocates sexual assault, while the begging mother is tacky. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other really.

Well ironically, if we followed Kickstarter's rules this PUA book is more "legit" than the daughter camp one since one is to fund an actual project while the other is a thinly veiled "fund my life" project.

Has anyone read the book? I still can't tell from the excerpts if this book is actually meant for real advice or if this is Poe's law in novel form and is meant to be some high level satire/trolling attempt that no one is picking up on,

OrganizedInsanity has a new favorite as of 17:27 on Jun 19, 2013

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Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Sigma-X posted:

I would probably sell mine. I wanted to give them lots of money, getting the pillow was kind of secondary.

The pillowcase has been sitting on a shelf unused since it arrived.

Unless usign it makes it more valuable, like selling used lingerie to pervs, in which case I can CUSTOM USE IT FOR YOUR PLEASURE for a fee.

Let the bidding begin, 20 bucks + shipping.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

PostNouveau posted:

Hmmm, the PUA book advocates sexual assault, while the begging mother is tacky. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other really.

But one pisses off misogynists while the other encourages them, so guess which one is getting the most outrage?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

...of SCIENCE! posted:

But one pisses off misogynists while the other encourages them, so guess which one is getting the most outrage?

I was being sarcastic to make fun of the poster who though the PUA book was just as terrible as the fund-my-life projects. Kickstarter should be trying much, much harder to get rid of sexual-assault-manuals projects than "send my kid to space camp" ones.

OrganizedInsanity
May 30, 2013

by Ralp

PostNouveau posted:

I was being sarcastic to make fun of the poster who though the PUA book was just as terrible as the fund-my-life projects. Kickstarter should be trying much, much harder to get rid of sexual-assault-manuals projects than "send my kid to space camp" ones.

Should be both. This really wouldn't be an issue if kick starter actually screened the stuff that's on their site like they should

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Excerpts from the material the author of the How To Be A Rapist manual posted on reddit:

quote:

Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER.

quote:

Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.
Google cache links to awful horrible poo poo since he pulled his reddit posts after being called on being a literal rapist:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wUkCDXJ4oGEJ:www.reddit.com/tb/1dd13a+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:40tT3neK7egJ:www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1dvnem/above_the_game_part_7_physical_escalation_sex/+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

(apologies, I'm phoneposting and can't seem to get these urls to parse properly)

But nah, I'm sure all this is just Social Justice Warriors getting all tumblr-y, it's political correctness gone mad I tell you

Pretty good has a new favorite as of 00:18 on Jun 20, 2013

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
I ended up quoting like half of those and took the quotes out for space. He is explicitly advocating sexual assault and says that you should only stop if she explicitly says "STOP" or "GET AWAY FROM ME," with the caveat that anything less is her being totally into it.

mellodroid
Oct 31, 2012
Backers at the $150 level of the Rapist Manual receive a personal visit from Chris Hansen!

mellodroid has a new favorite as of 00:58 on Jun 20, 2013

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Sigma-X posted:

I would probably sell mine. I wanted to give them lots of money, getting the pillow was kind of secondary.

The pillowcase has been sitting on a shelf unused since it arrived.

Unless usign it makes it more valuable, like selling used lingerie to pervs, in which case I can CUSTOM USE IT FOR YOUR PLEASURE for a fee.

I...I wish to watch :shepface:

Cool Web Paige
Nov 19, 2006

Elysiume posted:

I ended up quoting like half of those and took the quotes out for space. He is explicitly advocating sexual assault and says that you should only stop if she explicitly says "STOP" or "GET AWAY FROM ME," with the caveat that anything less is her being totally into it.



And the fact that he says to try it again later on.

Noni
Jul 8, 2003
ASK ME ABOUT DEFRAUDING GOONS WITH HOT DOGS AND HOW I BANNED EPIC HAMCAT

Elysiume posted:

I ended up quoting like half of those and took the quotes out for space. He is explicitly advocating sexual assault and says that you should only stop if she explicitly says "STOP" or "GET AWAY FROM ME," with the caveat that anything less is her being totally into it.

He also tells how to prevent women from verbalizing rejection, and since rejection in his mind equates to a knee to the nuts or the verbal equivalent of a rape whistle and pepper spray, one can deduce that his anti-rejection tactic involves clubbing a woman before she can speak and then dragging her back to a cave. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating, read the part where he tells guys to pick up women and physically set them on your lap.

He is literally a pick up artist.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
This is the end result of all that poo poo:

redditor posted:

The times that I have been blown out due to physical escalation (most of the time I get rejected long before I get to say a word, so my experience is limited) was when I just started touching their hand or shoulder while trying to emphasize a point, and they freak out as they don't want someone who looks like me touching them. I honestly don't think that was over the line. Those experiences were really the only times that I have been called ugly by strangers. (My friends have also said the same thing, so that's why I believe that I am.)

Just imagine Chris Chan talking to you, he gets all sweaty and thinks "THE BOOK SAYS TO TOUCH THE BOOK SAYS TO TOUCH" so he just plunges forward his hand, glaring with eye contact, and slams his palm down on your hand.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
The Neckbeard's Guide to Getting Laid

step 1)Be white

step 2)Move to Japan

That'll be $18000 please. I also accept bitcoin

Shorter Than Some
May 6, 2009

Noni posted:

He also tells how to prevent women from verbalizing rejection, and since rejection in his mind equates to a knee to the nuts or the verbal equivalent of a rape whistle and pepper spray, one can deduce that his anti-rejection tactic involves clubbing a woman before she can speak and then dragging her back to a cave. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating, read the part where he tells guys to pick up women and physically set them on your lap.

He is literally a pick up artist.

Oh wow, prevent them from verbalising rejection? it's like he saw the "because of the implication" bit on its always sunny in philadelphia and thought it was a good idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1lc6KASWg

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Anatharon posted:

I don't know why I remember this piece of trivia but I recall there was a joke about how the strip would look if just one of them was working on it, and the dude who still does had some weird dating sim thing going on.

Aren't the main characters self inserts too? Did he keep around the self insert of his former partner? :iiam:

I can't believe this is still going, why won't it die.

Yes, they were both self-inserts and yeah, the self-insert of the former partner (who ended up making his own webcomic featuring him and his wife for a little while) still existed after he left, but the characterization swung in some strange and foreign direction.

I wonder if Shirt Guy Dom is still around. He was usually more amusing than Fred (but not quite as much as Rodney)

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

judge reinhold posted:

His publishing company has discovered something they like to call "The Appeal Formula". The formula has seven elements to create a hit:

1. A captivating story
2. A unique world
3. Unique fantasy elements
4. Unique characters
5. Relatable protagonists
6. Suspenseful cliffhangers
7. Originality

It must have taken a team at NASA to crunch the numbers to come up with this criteria. I don't get why other publishers haven't tried "originality" or "unique characters" yet; I'm so tired of seeing Hamlet and Grendle appear in my media!

Yeah, seems to me there's no reason anyone can't be a best-seller! Just use THE APPEAL FORMULA, punch in some exotic sounding names, and BOOM. Done. Also make sure to add lots of originality and unique elements when you're following a strict formula to the letter, that'll help big time.

(Also if you want to make me think you can write a book you probably shouldn't spell every other word wrong :ssh:)

Edit: Forget my skepticism because I didn't realize they were working with RONNIE P. TODD: A LEGEND IN THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY

quote:

Ronnie is currently our Director of Sales and Marketing. He has had an illustrious career in publishing. He has designed promotional campaigns for various children’s books and guided many of them to national best-sellers. Ronnie also has endless contacts within the publishing industry.

A quick Google search turned up literally nothing of this guy's "illustrious career" other than stuff related to this book. I'm a little concerned.

Nikaer Drekin has a new favorite as of 17:49 on Jun 20, 2013

b0red
Apr 3, 2013

How to get slapped in the face while having a drink poured on you 101

Cool Web Paige
Nov 19, 2006

b0red posted:

How to get slapped in the face while having a drink poured on you 101

Or How to meet large surly bald men

When I used to do security I met a few bouncers and I have it on good authority 9 out of 10 PUAs will end up having a less than pleaseant encounter with a bouncer by the end of the night.

OrganizedInsanity
May 30, 2013

by Ralp

vxskud posted:

Or How to meet large surly bald men

When I used to do security I met a few bouncers and I have it on good authority 9 out of 10 PUAs will end up having a less than pleaseant encounter with a bouncer by the end of the night.

You just gotta find the right book to be that 1/10! :p

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

The Megatokyo Kickstarter has reached all non-porn stretch goals, so he added a bunch more.

quote:

Holy transl33tor PWN buttons... i can't believe that we are ALREADY getting close to funding the 2nd part of the game! I'm... out of stretch goals. ^^;; I had to add more, So... um, i added more.

Now, please note that just simply adding lots of primary playable characters to the game would make the game so overloaded that it would take years to produce - these secondary playable characters are a little like mini games you can play - sort of like short stories. They should still be fun and will be threaded into the story with the primary characters.

Ignoring that incredibly cringeworthy first paragraph, I love how it's going to take him years to write a story that's based on content that already exists because he promised too much. Also, the game is gonna be a trilogy so that's several years to make part 1 of 3.

And despite all that it's not outside of the realm of possibility that he'll reach the porn stretch goal. Oi.

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
You enter the bar. There's two college co-eds drinking together at a table. A brunette is sitting at the bar, it seems she's waiting for someone. At another table, a girl sits with her boyfriend.

Inventory:
bianca spray
cell phone
ponytail
goatee
excess fat
reality destroyer

>

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

Madcosby posted:

You enter the bar. There's two college co-eds drinking together at a table. A brunette is sitting at the bar, it seems she's waiting for someone. At another table, a girl sits with her boyfriend.

Inventory:
bianca spray
cell phone
ponytail
goatee
excess fat
reality destroyer

>

> Neg Grue hiding in shadows

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Srice posted:

The Megatokyo Kickstarter has reached all non-porn stretch goals, so he added a bunch more.


Ignoring that incredibly cringeworthy first paragraph, I love how it's going to take him years to write a story that's based on content that already exists because he promised too much. Also, the game is gonna be a trilogy so that's several years to make part 1 of 3.

And despite all that it's not outside of the realm of possibility that he'll reach the porn stretch goal. Oi.

Oh right. Does Megatokyo still unironically use leet speak?

Cool Web Paige
Nov 19, 2006

Waffleman_ posted:

Oh right. Does Megatokyo still unironically use leet speak?

Yes, yes it does I checked just now and right on the current panel there it is.

Like an old man yelling cowabunga while riding a razor scooter.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

Alan Smithee posted:

The Neckbeard's Guide to Getting Laid

step 1)Be white

step 2)Move to Japan

That'll be $18000 please. I also accept bitcoin

I am willing to bet actual money that this dude has actually raped someone and probably doesn't even realize it. With how passive women are socialized to be, and how so much conduct is based on subtle cues that Westerners don't know to look for. . . Ugh. gently caress this guy so much.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Talkie Toaster posted:

You're too late, there's already Exalted novels.

Also a proper Exalted kickstarter but it's over now:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/200664283/deluxe-exalted-3rd-edition


...of SCIENCE! posted:

But one pisses off misogynists while the other encourages them, so guess which one is getting the most outrage?

The former, because the latter is embraced by the first and that group's loud as gently caress (see: Reddit). Don't worry guys, the KS team even said the PUA manual is ok! :thumbsup:

Can only hope that some sexual assault case traces back to this guy's book and the victim sues Kickstarter in to the loving ground for helping fund something that encourages assault. Or maybe one of his attempts at further 'research' will get him glassed. Either would be acceptable.

Alan Smithee posted:

The Neckbeard's Guide to Getting Laid

step 1)Be white

step 2)Move to Japan

That'll be $18000 please. I also accept bitcoin

step 3) Wonder why you're in the hospital/jail and not your harem ending fantasy.

Solomonic
Jan 3, 2008

INCIPIT SANTA
While browsing the "local" section I discovered a motorcycle enthusiast who may also be some form of schizophrenic.

Despite the bizarre project summary that...doesn't really appear to be about the project (he mentions at the very end he's making a movie, but doesn't say anything else about it), my favorite part is the tagline: "What do you believe in video coming soon."

I wish Don Lafontaine were still alive to read it.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


dijon du jour posted:

I... I think I want him to be funded.
I need to read what comes of this. It may be the greatest train wreck ever put to paper.
I don't even want him to hire an editor. I want to read his book in all of its raw, misspelled glory.

A little late, but the greatest trainwreck ever put to paper will always be The Maradonia Saga. It's the bastard child of Narnia and Harry Potter, written by a rich 10 year old and vanity published by her parents. Read the sample. It's great.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Evil Fluffy posted:

Don't worry guys, the KS team even said the PUA manual is ok! :thumbsup:

If people haven't been reading the other thread here's an article about KS's response to the backlash and their explanation as to why they didn't shut it down before it ended. Basically the guy kept the really creepy stuff out of the KS description and they decided that they couldn't use off-site stuff to influence their decision. Weeeeeeaksauce.

CNN has picked up the story.

Edit: whoa, the story is popping up all over the media.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/above-the-game-kickstarter-tofutofu_n_3466538.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jmaureenhenderson/2013/06/19/did-a-so-called-sexual-assault-how-to-manual-just-get-funded-via-kickstarter/
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/19/kickstarter_pickup_artist_on_sleeping_with_women_expect_her_to_offer_some_resistance/singleton/
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201306191919-0022842
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...g-home-you.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/book-slammed-how-to-guide-rapists-article-1.1377868
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/dating-selfhelp-book-above-the-game-labelled-a-8216rape-manual8217/story-e6frg6n6-1226667406861
http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/kickstarter-responds-manual-sexual-assault

I bet that KS will just hunker down and ride it out.

Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 05:36 on Jun 21, 2013

Noni
Jul 8, 2003
ASK ME ABOUT DEFRAUDING GOONS WITH HOT DOGS AND HOW I BANNED EPIC HAMCAT

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

If people haven't been reading the other thread here's an article about KS's response to the backlash and their explanation as to why they didn't shut it down before it ended. Basically the guy kept the really creepy stuff out of the KS description and they decided that they couldn't use off-site stuff to influence their decision. Weeeeeeaksauce.

CNN has picked up the story.

I like how the author replied to the criticism, saying that the sexual assault instructions were taken out of context and intended to be for guys who were on dates and such, as if rape magically is not rape when the girl learns your name.

Samunwise
Mar 18, 2009

Noni posted:

I like how the author replied to the criticism, saying that the sexual assault instructions were taken out of context and intended to be for guys who were on dates and such, as if rape magically is not rape when the girl learns your name.

"Whip out your dick and put her hand on it" - advice for a first date

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Noni posted:

I like how the author replied to the criticism, saying that the sexual assault instructions were taken out of context and intended to be for guys who were on dates and such, as if rape magically is not rape when the girl learns your name.

Honestly, the best thing for this douchebag to do would be to take the money and run. Literally cash the check and then cave into his critics' demands to not be published. Just say that the money is going to a worthwhile charity for men, i.e. himself.

Young Freud has a new favorite as of 06:15 on Jun 21, 2013

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
God loving beta white knights everywhere. It's not sexual assault it's a KINO

The General
Mar 4, 2007


quote:

Kickstarter reviews projects based on our guidelines and the information creators share on their project pages. It’s a process we’ve refined over four years and continue to refine daily. We strive for fair and thoughtful policies that maintain the health of the Kickstarter ecosystem.
I'm not sure what any of this means other than KSs official policy is "We don't give a poo poo, because we get money."

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Ugh. That's pretty much exactly what that tool wants, more publicity. He asked a Jezebel author to call him out when he started the Kickstarter.

Not that the media shouldn't write about it, but the unfortunate side effect is he'll get more exposure and draw in more money from MRAs and the like.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
What the world needs now is a little bit of KickStopper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2FGfdNtBh4

Edit: But it needs to not only be real, but let us stop projects against the creators will.

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

PostNouveau posted:

Ugh. That's pretty much exactly what that tool wants, more publicity. He asked a Jezebel author to call him out when he started the Kickstarter.

Not that the media shouldn't write about it, but the unfortunate side effect is he'll get more exposure and draw in more money from MRAs and the like.

And she played exactly into his hands. She would have been better served not reporting on it at all.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Verdugo posted:

And she played exactly into his hands. She would have been better served not reporting on it at all.

No, pro-sexual-assault views should be targets of disdain. This kind of news coverage pushes those views further and further out of the mainstream, and maybe one day Kickstarter wouldn't dare let someone use its platform to advance those views.

But unfortunately, on the way to that progress, this dude is gonna make a lot of money selling books and seminars to like-minded people.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



Hopefully when that well dries up, any future employer will google his name and find it associated with this.

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Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

PostNouveau posted:

No, pro-sexual-assault views should be targets of disdain. This kind of news coverage pushes those views further and further out of the mainstream, and maybe one day Kickstarter wouldn't dare let someone use its platform to advance those views.

But unfortunately, on the way to that progress, this dude is gonna make a lot of money selling books and seminars to like-minded people.

Gawker Media is an entertainment site, not a news site. It only serves to drive business for this guy.

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