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I think that using the right stick to look around the cockpit/car while racing is far more intuitive than relying on Kinect tracking your head movements. Besides, using Kinect for that rather than the current right stick solution presents new problems such as how to go about handling a 180 to see who's behind you (if you just use the stick to handle that, why not stay with that solution for everything else since it works, and is faster and more responsive), and frustrations from distractions in the room interfering with the camera in the game when you turn you head and such to talk/look at someone/something. I could see the benefit of something like Oculus Rift for head tracking functionality, but trying to make use of Kinect for head tracking in a game you're playing on TV? I can't say I'm sold, to be honest, since it seems grossly inferior to the current solution of quickly flicking the right stick in the direction you want to look.
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wolrah posted:Done it. Can't do the scaled movements, it just doesn't compute to my brain. 40-60 degrees of head movement translating to a full 180 camera turn as you say would just break me. 1:1 with a HMD works, 3:1 is just "nope". So you've used proper head tracking but still went with the cliche "but if I look left, I can't see the screen anymore" argument? And it's not like they are taking away looking around with the right stick. It's just another option. An option I want because I have a wheel. I don't have a right stick (or any stick) so I can't look around at all unless I give up paddle shifting. No use making GBS threads on a feature that's useful to some people if you don't even have to use it.
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Its cool if someone distracts you or like a bug lands on you and you look away and your screen moves away from what youre doing.
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Its cool if someone distracts you or like a bug lands on you and you look away and your screen moves away from what youre doing. I've used TrackIR for flight sims before and it's pretty cool once you get used to it. Hardcore wonks swear by it because your hands and feet are already busy when flying and if you're playing WWII sims there's no radar or anything so you have to keep looking around all the time as you swoop around. Not sure how well the Kinect implementation stacks up, though because I've never really used it enough to get a feel for it.
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Cojawfee posted:So you've used proper head tracking but still went with the cliche "but if I look left, I can't see the screen anymore" argument? Yeah, because as I explained if I use it in a way that it makes sense from a physical perspective, that's exactly what ends up happening. It's only a cliche argument because it's the reality for some of us. 1:1 head to camera tracking is what feels natural for obvious reasons, but is entirely impractical when the screen is only in front of you. quote:And it's not like they are taking away looking around with the right stick. It's just another option. An option I want because I have a wheel. I don't have a right stick (or any stick) so I can't look around at all unless I give up paddle shifting. No use making GBS threads on a feature that's useful to some people if you don't even have to use it. Well of course, which is exactly why I've tried every variant of this idea I could get my hands on. Forza is particularly bad among the games I play for having cockpit views where the mirrors aren't really visible from the normal camera position, so since I also drive with a wheel I tend to bump people who are alongside me in turns more than I'd like. I'm not making GBS threads on the concept, just stating my opinion that the only ways it's possible to implement usefully with fixed displays are awkward at best. wolrah fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Are we allowed to post awsome car-related stuff in this thread? In 1976 two NASCAR stock cars (a Ford Torino and a Dodge Charger) were entered into the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Despite being incredibly popular, neither finished the race; quote:Unfortunately, NASCAR at Le Mans didn't live up to its advance billing and immense popularity. McGriff's engine blew on the second lap, thus the Olympia Dodge was the first car out of the race, officially shown as "No Result." At Le Mans, you need to complete a certain number of laps even to be classified as a finisher. Read more here. This is the Charger doing a lap last summer (in the rain no less). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Zy6QpaqFY Basticle fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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Jun 20, 2013 19:30
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Basticle posted:This is the Charger doing a lap last summer That sound 
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Jun 20, 2013 19:31
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Also LOL at the guy manhandling it through Indianapolis and Arnage.
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Heh at the fact that NASCAR races often feature fewer than 22 gear changes every 500 laps. I'm surprised they haven't figured out some way to drive them in third person view.
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:e: Cubivore got probated for posting erotic fan fiction in the NASCAR thread ahahahahaha Look man, don't be hatin' on my tastes, ok
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I hope the next Forza has a Zakspeed Ford Capri. It's pretty fun in pCARS.
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Basticle posted:Are we allowed to post awsome car-related stuff in this thread? Actually, there's a place for awesome car poo poo. Otherwise, the story of "Les Monstres de La Sarthe" is one that's always fascinated me (so called because the awesome thunderous roar of the V8s compared to the sports cars of the time). Also, yet another reason why Forza should have a Ford Torino, as that was Ford's perennial stocker in the 60's and 70's. About as close to a partnership between France and France as we'll get this side of the ALMS/Grand Am merger.
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So, I'm gettin' kinda sick of World Tour forcing me to do A600 / S700 races constantly and since I just got Gold again... anyone want to do some F200 on Nurburgring / Fujimi Kaido / Le Mans soon? GT is T1g4h 
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T1g4h posted:So, I'm gettin' kinda sick of World Tour forcing me to do A600 / S700 races constantly and since I just got Gold again... anyone want to do some F200 on Nurburgring / Fujimi Kaido / Le Mans soon? GT is T1g4h You could always join the [PA] races. There's one tonight, even!
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Cannot Find Server posted:You could always join the [PA] races. There's one tonight, even! I haven't followed the thread in ages, whazzat?
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T1g4h posted:I haven't followed the thread in ages, whazzat?
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Club [PA] (Penny Arcade forums), which I run, does random stuff tuesdays and thursdays (we usually start 8:30-9PM EST) FYI tonight is completely random with no theme but at some point there will be a race on Old Mulsanne with A600 70s muscle cars. *edit* my GT is Basticular, msg me or send a friend invite if you're interested. So far Cubey, Bentron and speek3k have been racing with us (and hopefully had fun and not been weirded out*) * though tbh Bentron kind of weirds us out, so..... Basticle fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 21, 2013 |
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Basticle posted:
He weirds us all out. That's why we love him.
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Basticle posted:* though tbh Bentron kind of weirds us out, so..... You haven't played Forza until you've listened to Bentron tell a creepy story for 10 minutes, every week.
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Thanks for the games tonight Basticle, that was a blast. Been ages since I've gotten to take my Fiero out and almost murder an entire pack
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Basticle posted:* though tbh Bentron kind of weirds us out, so..... He is okay as long as he takes his meds beforehand.
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Ask him about his Subaru.
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He's only kidding. You really shouldn't.
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I've had the pleasure of hearing about the crackhouse accross the street and the one time he had to endure another racer talking about being gay (or something).
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SAEG had a Miata party. It was fun.    Have some video
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Cojawfee posted:Now that the crossbone can be offline, how will this "drivatar" thing pan out? The Xbone isn't required to be online anymore, but individual games can require online still
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The drivatar thing, it'll be interesting to see if that ends up meaning that Forza 5 requires an internet connection to play at all. Since it's being touted as a major feature of the game, it very well could.
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I said come in! posted:The drivatar thing, it'll be interesting to see if that ends up meaning that Forza 5 requires an internet connection to play at all. Since it's being touted as a major feature of the game, it very well could. Seems kinda dumb tbh, it woulnt be hard to have the game could just revert back to whatever they have as a default ai is if you arent connected.
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anime and cars posted:Seems kinda dumb tbh, it woulnt be hard to have the game could just revert back to whatever they have as a default ai is if you arent connected. Absolutely, but I wouldn't put it pass Microsoft to force T10 to make the drivatar a requirement. I am just expecting the worse.
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Hopefully nobody has posted this yet. Top Gear did an interview with Dan Greenawalt http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/meet-the-man-who-makes-forza-2013-06-18 Pretty neat that we'll have a variety of wraps to apply to our cars. Get that "rich oil tycoon playboy visiting London" look by wrapping our Lamborghinis in gold.
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Ooh yeah, T10 showed that off a little bit at E3 and it looked absolutely stunning.
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I said come in! posted:Absolutely, but I wouldn't put it pass Microsoft to force T10 to make the drivatar a requirement. I am just expecting the worse. If you read the Drivatar info on Microsoft's own research page, it doesn't even sound like you'll have to have a Drivatar if you don't want one. Also what Ether said VVVVV Prettypanda fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jun 21, 2013 |
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I said come in! posted:The drivatar thing, it'll be interesting to see if that ends up meaning that Forza 5 requires an internet connection to play at all. Since it's being touted as a major feature of the game, it very well could. My guess is the game comes pre-loaded with a sampling of drivatars from the factory, and the online connection only causes you to get updates from your friends and the community. Offline people will probably just not have the dynamic version.
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Just as long as that means a much meaner M. Rossi.
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Infineon Nascar [SAEG] Lord M84: 169 on the leaderboard 1:13.885
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lordmaf posted:Infineon Nascar Make that 170. [AUGR] XPrettyPandaX #166 1:13.864
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How long is this set of goon rivals challenges running? I want to set some times but I haven't had a chance yet and I'm going out of town for a week.
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siig posted:How long is this set of goon rivals challenges running? I want to set some times but I haven't had a chance yet and I'm going out of town for a week. Current standings code:
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GT: Southpaw I Maple: No DLC  Infineon 1:19.213 #5,281 Jaguar XJ220
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Southpaw posted:GT: Southpaw I
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