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I can't help but wonder what the mayor thinks of all this.
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Maybe Dave can snap her out of it if he gets her snausages.
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Dave's weirdly compliant and conversational. Snide comments about "normal Jade" aside, he's handing over his sword and chatting to her like all this is pretty normal. I sort of assumed they'd have to fight. I guess Dave seems pretty emotionally fragile right now (after the weird John encounter and the mini-breakdown in his room) so maybe this is all a little much to take in. Jade seems pretty Jade-like at the moment, too, so that probably helps. It's obvious why the Condesce would want to arm Dave to better fight their mutual enemy, but is she planning to just leave Dave loose and hope Lord English bumps into him, or is she planning to take control of him/get him to cooperate? Hopefully we'll stick with them for a bit longer and find out.
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Dolash posted:Dave's weirdly compliant and conversational. Snide comments about "normal Jade" aside, he's handing over his sword and chatting to her like all this is pretty normal. I sort of assumed they'd have to fight. I guess Dave seems pretty emotionally fragile right now (after the weird John encounter and the mini-breakdown in his room) so maybe this is all a little much to take in. Jade seems pretty Jade-like at the moment, too, so that probably helps. What's he supposed to do, exactly? His powers aren't exactly developed. He wouldn't stand much of a chance against someone who was just a witch of space, let along one who also has the powers of a first guardian. Besides, fighting wouldn't get him anything. If he loses then he comes back, and then it's back to square one but with a more pissed off Jade. If he wins, Jade's death fits the definition of both Heroic and Just, so she would perma-die. That's bad.
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Dolash posted:Dave's weirdly compliant and conversational. Snide comments about "normal Jade" aside, he's handing over his sword and chatting to her like all this is pretty normal. I sort of assumed they'd have to fight. I guess Dave seems pretty emotionally fragile right now (after the weird John encounter and the mini-breakdown in his room) so maybe this is all a little much to take in. Jade seems pretty Jade-like at the moment, too, so that probably helps. He doesn't want to fight Jade because Jade is his friend, dude. That and he's probably well aware that he can't beat her anyway, so may as well go along with what she wants as long as she's not also hurting him or his other friends in the process.
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Ariong posted:What's he supposed to do, exactly? His powers aren't exactly developed. He wouldn't stand much of a chance against someone who was just a witch of space, let along one who also has the powers of a first guardian. Besides, fighting wouldn't get him anything. If he loses then he comes back, and then it's back to square one but with a more pissed off Jade. If he wins, Jade's death fits the definition of both Heroic and Just, so she would perma-die. That's bad. I'd disagree about a Knight of Time barely standing a chance against a Witch of Space since that just seems to be something you straight pulled out your rear end, but yeah you're right. Plus, he can always just get another sword.
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Jun 22, 2013 03:01
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Also, ohh. I had to have the joke explained to me. Dave's sword was the "Royal Deringer". As in, De-ringer. A sword that cuts the ring off your enemy's hand. As it did when the bunny was used by Jack to kill the Black Queen way back when. But everyone misspelled it as the derringer, as in, the old one-shot pistol.  So what essentially happened here was that Deringer + Cue ball = weapon that can kill Lord English. As in, a pistol with a cue-ball bullet, which is exactly what Hussie tried to use against Lord English. 
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Jun 22, 2013 03:04
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Prison Warden posted:I'd disagree about a Knight of Time barely standing a chance against a Witch of Space since that just seems to be something you straight pulled out your rear end, but yeah you're right. I'm not saying that a knight of time couldn't go toe to toe with a witch of space, I'm saying that a knight of time who hasn't trained, practiced, or even ever really used his own powers going toe to toe with a witch of space + first guardian combo who has mastered her ability doesn't stand much of a chance.
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Ariong posted:I'm not saying that a knight of time couldn't go toe to toe with a witch of space, I'm saying that a knight of time who hasn't trained, practiced, or even ever really used his own powers going toe to toe with a witch of space + first guardian combo who has mastered her ability doesn't stand much of a chance. Ah okay, fair enough. It was this part that confused me: Ariong posted:He wouldn't stand much of a chance against someone who was just a witch of space, let along one who also has the powers of a first guardian. Bobulus posted:Dave's sword was the "Royal Deringer". As in, De-ringer. A sword that cuts the ring off your enemy's hand. As it did when the bunny was used by Jack to kill the Black Queen way back when. But everyone misspelled it as the derringer, as in, the old one-shot pistol. That Strider would have a broken sword that cuts the ring off an enemy's hand is also a fairly obvious reference. Hail to the King, baby.
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Prison Warden posted:That Strider would have a broken sword that cuts the ring off an enemy's hand is also a fairly obvious reference. You would not believe how many livebloggers miss that connection. It's probably because everyone remembers the character as "Aragorn" and not "Strider".
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Bobulus posted:Also, ohh. I had to have the joke explained to me. These guns look absolutely nothing alike.
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Bobulus posted:You would not believe how many livebloggers miss that connection. It's probably because everyone remembers the character as "Aragorn" and not "Strider". Oh gently caress how about that.
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Jun 22, 2013 03:28
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Seoinin posted:Oh gently caress how about that. I'll admit, I only made that connection when I re-watched Fellowship last year.
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Jun 22, 2013 03:43
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I have to say, call me unoriginal or something but if there's two characters I can NEVER get enough of in Homestuck, that'd be Dave and Karkat. The fact that they slowly became best bros on top of being the best characters is just magical. 
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Man, Dave's really been stealing the show post-Hiatus. I really like how he breaks down, honestly. Like crying at his ironic selfies, and flipping out Karkat style just now. The dude's cool as heck, but has so god drat many issues. It's really interesting to see him deal with them, when by definition being "cool" means you don't really have the tools to do so.Fister Roboto posted:These guns look absolutely nothing alike. That said, in that picture, Hussie's pretty clearly wielding something bigger than a derringer. Still, I like the idea of Jade/HIC trying to put the cueball in a gun to defeat Lord English enough that I think we can look past that, because it's funnier that way.
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Am I the only one who thinks it's entirely possible the Condesce could be misinformed about Lord English's weaknesses? I mean, she hasn't displayed the best judgement in the past...
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pumpinglemma posted:Am I the only one who thinks it's entirely possible the Condesce could be misinformed about Lord English's weaknesses? I mean, she hasn't displayed the best judgement in the past...
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How many Lord English weapons are we up to now? Calliope, the weird artifact Vriska found, Caledfwlch... Lot of cooks in the kitchen for whatever endgame battle.
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Cue balls are omniscient. I suspect it's not the ball itself that's Lord English's weakness, but the obscure and accurate knowledge within. Perhaps it is known that Lord English will at one point be harmed by a cue ball, so it was mistakenly concluded that the material was the relevant factor. Perhaps it's a metaphor, and Lord English's weakness is Yaldabaoth, who caused the First Break after offering Caliborn a Choice between becoming Lord English or stopping someone who had hypothetically chosen similarly. The Condesce is a bit out of her depth, here; for instance, in order to escape Lord English, she plans to steal the planet that is destined to become his nursery. Edit: loving archons Bongo Bill fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 22, 2013 |
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Jun 22, 2013 04:12
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Bongo Bill posted:Perhaps it's a metaphor, and Lord English's weakness is Abraxas, who caused the First Break after offering Caliborn a Choice between becoming Lord English or stopping someone who had hypothetically chosen similarly. That was Yaldabaoth, not Abraxas.
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Blackheart posted:I have to say, call me unoriginal or something but if there's two characters I can NEVER get enough of in Homestuck, that'd be Dave and Karkat. The fact that they slowly became best bros on top of being the best characters is just magical. Poor Karkat. Dave's been hanging out with one of his old friends for nearly five minutes and already he's saying he regrets the time he spent with his best troll bro.
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Eiba posted:That said, in that picture, Hussie's pretty clearly wielding something bigger than a derringer. I was mostly focusing on the "one-shot" aspect of it. Doc Scratch only loaded his duedly firearm with one cueball.
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Nate RFB posted:How many Lord English weapons are we up to now? Calliope, the weird artifact Vriska found, Caledfwlch... Lot of cooks in the kitchen for whatever endgame battle. Don't forget the Lady Massé theory. That may or may not count separately from Calliope.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Don't forget the Lady Massé theory. That may or may not count separately from Calliope. If she exists, I'm sure that someone will refer to her as 'The Rack'.
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So...how is Dave actually going to use this? His specibus is 1/2 swordkind, and that's a whole one. Mechanics aside, we've seen him effortlessly shatter blades which played a pretty accurate reflection of his mood. I'd wager that he would snap that in half pretty easily since his mood has progressed from "relentless self hatred" to "complete and total breakdown." Funny he mentions his dislike of his quest, since he has done a pretty good job blowing off any attempt at personal growth; in fact the only growth he has undergone in the meteor session is branching out his social relations.
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A big flaming stink posted:So...how is Dave actually going to use this? His specibus is 1/2 swordkind, and that's a whole one. Mechanics aside, we've seen him effortlessly shatter blades which played a pretty accurate reflection of his mood. I'd wager that he would snap that in half pretty easily since his mood has progressed from "relentless self hatred" to "complete and total breakdown." Funny he mentions his dislike of his quest, since he has done a pretty good job blowing off any attempt at personal growth; in fact the only growth he has undergone in the meteor session is branching out his social relations. Luckily there's still one hero with a fully-functioning bladekind specibus - and that hero also has a backup specibus that absolutely needs to be used in-comic.
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Dave has used unbroken swords before, and uses his time powers to rewind broken swords to when they were whole again.
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Who What Now posted:Dave has used unbroken swords before, and uses his time powers to rewind broken swords to when they were whole again. I thought that only worked because he was rewinding his Strife specibus back to whole at the same time. And who are we kidding, Dave's going to break this legendary piece of poo poo in five seconds flat of being handed to him by Jade.
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The only swords Dave has used that weren't broken have been Caldescratch, which has a Timetable embedded in it that allows it to go back and forth at any point in its personal history, and the Snoop Dogg Snow Cone Machete, which was made with Caledscratch so presumably has the same powers. The present versions of the swords were still broken so he was still using his specibus properly. Just making use of his title, really.
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From what we've seen of how strife specibus work with john, if Dave were to repair a broken sword in his inventory, it would fix his strife specibus. It might need to be his lovely katana that was originally broken rather than just ANY sword I guess.
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Dave used the Scarlet Ribbitar against Bec Noir actually. He probably got the full unbroken sword specibus from Bro's body, as depressing as that is.
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Midway through this conversation, Jade's comments ("You really do have a one-track mind!", "i see its still impossible to have a serious conversation with you, whether you are a sassy bird or not; i thought regular dave might have matured a little over three years but i guess i was wrong!") reminded me that she's talking with the alternate-timeline version of her ex-boyfriend. (Though Dave doesn't know anything about the ex-relationship.) Poor Evil Jade. Eiba posted:Man, Dave's really been stealing the show post-Hiatus. Dave has never not been stealing the show.
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Prison Warden posted:From what we've seen of how strife specibus work with john, if Dave were to repair a broken sword in his inventory, it would fix his strife specibus. It might need to be his lovely katana that was originally broken rather than just ANY sword I guess. Well, John repaired his sledgehammer. He allocated his specibus with a regular claw hammer, and that never broke.
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Ablative posted:Well, John repaired his sledgehammer. He allocated his specibus with a regular claw hammer, and that never broke. The sledgehammer falling apart changed his hammerkind abstratus to handlekind, though, and ejected that claw hammer. Putting the sledgehammer back together turned it back to hammerkind. Similarly, Dave's specibus was originally allocated as full bladekind and then broke in half when his sword did. Maybe it's best not to take these things too seriously, but that does seem to be pretty much how it works.
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It's almost like this specibus horseshit is completely arbitrary and should be ignored in favor of things that are actually interesting.
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I imagine that's why it's not really come up in the comic for a long time, yes.
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Kakumei posted:It's almost like this specibus horseshit is completely arbitrary and should be ignored in favor of things that are actually interesting. It isn't shipping or fantrolls so it's pretty benign with regard to the potential for Homestuck Chats.
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Freudian posted:It isn't shipping or fantrolls so it's pretty benign with regard to the potential for Homestuck Chats. I'm shipping axekind with my OC fanspecibus powertoolsKi-  Seriously though, Jade is great when she's evil. It's kinda sad that eventually there'll be a Jade Goes Back to Normal Party, starring Normal Jade. Dave is great too, but that's par for the course with him.
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Cat Mattress posted:Seriously though, Jade is great when she's evil. It's kinda sad that eventually there'll be a Jade Goes Back to Normal Party, starring Normal Jade. Dave is great too, but that's par for the course with him. Nope, Jade was always great: quote:
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I ended up going to the Phillystuck meetup, it was a lot of fun and there were some really great cosplays      Here's the rest of the gallery. I really liked the Yaldabaoth.
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