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Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Devour posted:

Well since she's back on :foxnews:, I think they disagree with you.

I didn't say the cult was small.

I'm talking more about Steve Schmidt. He was the guy who found Palin, he put her forward, and he has been cursing that day ever since.

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jun 24, 2013

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Devour
Dec 18, 2009

by angerbeet

Fulchrum posted:

I didn't say the cult was small.
I know. The thing I just don't get with the GOP on Palin is why they still embrace this woman. Nothing about this woman is appealing to anyone other than a hard leaning conservative. She handed the election to Obama on a silver platter, then QUITS her job for irrelevant reasons, then she gets her own reality show; effectively equating her with Kim Kardashian & Paris Hilton in terms of maturity, and then cashes in on sales of a book about nothing. This women DOES NOT bring in anybody to the republican party who's not already in it.

With her back on fox though, I am looking forward to the Bill Maher commentary on her!

EDIT: \/\/ Changed it.
Spelling...

Devour fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jun 24, 2013

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Devour posted:

oval office.

Can we not do this?

e: thanks!

Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jun 24, 2013

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Devour posted:

I know. The thing I just don't get with the GOP on Palin is why they still embrace this women. Nothing about this women is appealing to anyone other than a hard leaning conservative. She handed the election to Obama on a silver platter, then QUITS her job for irrelevant reasons, then she gets her own reality show; effectively equating her with Kim Kardashian & Paris Hilton in terms of maturity, and then cashes in on sales of a book about nothing. This women DOES NOT bring in anybody to the republican party who's not already in it.

With her back on fox though, I am looking forward to the Bill Maher commentary on her!

EDIT: \/\/ Changed it.

Woman, she is not a collective.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Warchicken posted:

This is going to sound like a joke or hyperbole to anyone outside Louisiana, so be advised its not: if this stuff in Louisiana continues, LSU will be the only remaining university in the state, and that's only because it has a football team. And that will only save it for so long because eventually the education system will be so bad that no Louisiana students will be accepted by LSU anymore(already happens in many of their departments - generally they do not even consider applicants to the music program from Louisiana schools unless they are from a specific area or have extremely high test scores).

Basically if jindal has his way Louisiana will become the only state in the nation without a single university. This is the only possible end game for his policies - they don't make sense in any other framing at all. There is simply no way to view what he does in an honest way that doesn't result in the death of every school. Nichols, for instance, is totally hosed and is a complete embarrassment as an institution of learning. Southeastern is losing tenured faculty every year and replacing them with adjuncts.

It just gets worse every year.

Are the private colleges still doing alright? Or are Tulane and the like going down the toilet with the state schools?

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Devour posted:

I know. The thing I just don't get with the GOP on Palin is why they still embrace this woman. Nothing about this woman is appealing to anyone other than a hard leaning conservative. She handed the election to Obama on a silver platter, then QUITS her job for irrelevant reasons, then she gets her own reality show; effectively equating her with Kim Kardashian & Paris Hilton in terms of maturity, and then cashes in on sales of a book about nothing. This women DOES NOT bring in anybody to the republican party who's not already in it.

You're making the mistake of thinking they want to.

At Cpac this year, Palin made this little remark

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/03/16/sarah_palin_fires_up_cpac_by_attacking_obama_rove.html

“More Background Checks? Dandy Idea, Mr. President. Shoulda Started With Yours"

This, coming from a woman whose lack of a background check almost singlehandedly destroyed John McCains campaign (the economy, the war and the fact that McCain was a grumpy old bastard against a charismatic handsome (relatively) young man added to it). But not to Palin, and not to the people who are watching Palin - its because the country was tricked and didn't listen to their folksy common sense.

Palin tells them everything they want to hear. "Obama is a Kenyan socialist, we just have to scrutinise him harder" "Obesity is small potatoes when I can't get way too much soda" Our values are good christian values. We just need to let people see how good they are, and we won't have to compromise" "Liberals are a bunch of America hatin' idiot egotistical nutjobs, but why are they so mean and calling us names"

What they want, more than anything, is to be told that they're right about everything, they don't need to change, they just have to make the country see that its true. Its bullshit of the highest order, but compared to the soul searching and compromise that an actual rebuilding would entail, its such sweet bullshit to swallow. Faced between diet and exercise, and gorging themselves on candy until they die of a heart attack, all it takes for the GOP is one person telling them the candy is good for them to forget completely about dieting.

And its because she tells them whatever they want to hear without caring about reality that she can rewrite her own reality. She'd both a culture warrior, ready to take the fight to the lamestream media, AND an innocent victim, who was just minding her own business and then people started being mean to her. She is a Washington outsider, AND a machiavellian politician capable of demolishing her oppenents with a sentence. She's a simple Hockey Mom, AND a saavy media queen. She is whatever she wants her cult to believe she is.

tl;dr, Because they want her to be right. And if the GOP threw out everything in their platform that they wanted to be right, just cause it was a proven loser, they'd be left with "_____ _______ Party".

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Is this community too high-brow and too sensitive to call a oval office a oval office?

Oh sure, it's a specific honorific for only a certain gender (except when it's not) but do we have to be so sensitive?

Sarah Palin is the very model of a oval office, and I think that on a comedy website we should be able to call a oval office a oval office without soul-searching.

Every one of you who thinks Palin falls short of the label, "oval office," can name at least three other people (not counting me) who deserve the label.

gently caress it, call me a oval office, too if you want to.

Sticks and stones. Palin is one of the cuntiest of cunts.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
There's so many other things to label her with there's no need to bring gender into it.

Honestly everything that needs to be said about her had been said about five minutes after she was foisted on the general public and there's no need to revisit it or her.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Dr. Faustus posted:

Is this community too high-brow and too sensitive to call a oval office a oval office?

Oh sure, it's a specific honorific for only a certain gender (except when it's not) but do we have to be so sensitive?

Sarah Palin is the very model of a oval office, and I think that on a comedy website we should be able to call a oval office a oval office without soul-searching.

Every one of you who thinks Palin falls short of the label, "oval office," can name at least three other people (not counting me) who deserve the label.

gently caress it, call me a oval office, too if you want to.

Sticks and stones. Palin is one of the cuntiest of cunts.

Swap in words that attack homosexuals or black people for being homosexual or black and ask again. Or don't, because using slurs that attack people for being members of oppressed groups is disgusting and has no place in civilized discourse.

Neremworld
Dec 3, 2007

by exmarx

Dr. Faustus posted:

Is this community too high-brow and too sensitive

I think the greatest :psyduck: of this shitpost is that the poster is being oversensitive and offended with the fact someone politely asked a person not to use a slur.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Neremworld posted:

I think the greatest :psyduck: of this shitpost is that the poster is being oversensitive and offended with the fact someone politely asked a person not to use a slur.

In Palin's case though, it is almost appropriate. She really did go out of her way to play up all a lot of terrible stereotypes. Some times it is easiest just to call a spade a spade, especially when they are going on TV and being all, "Hey, look at me act like such a space!".


She was all about being a mom, and having sex appeal, and all the winking, and not having any clue about the outside world, or having any interest in reading a newspaper. oval office is a slur against women because it is an old term for vagina, and Palin was the vagina incarnate for those on the right wing. She was all about defending patriarchy and making babies, and otherwise being a dumb yet charming vagina.

Neremworld
Dec 3, 2007

by exmarx

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

In Palin's case though, it is almost appropriate.

Even if it was 'almost appropriate', it doesn't justify it. It's not right to call black people who are huge jerks the n-word, or gay people who are huge jerks the f-word, do we? That's literally your argument. "Well, she's a huge jerk of a woman so we can use a slur denigrating women!"

Even if they act so-called 'sterotypical' of the word you want to use, it just makes you worse.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Dr. Faustus posted:

Is this community too high-brow and too sensitive to call a oval office a oval office?

Oh sure, it's a specific honorific for only a certain gender (except when it's not) but do we have to be so sensitive?

Sarah Palin is the very model of a oval office, and I think that on a comedy website we should be able to call a oval office a oval office without soul-searching.

Every one of you who thinks Palin falls short of the label, "oval office," can name at least three other people (not counting me) who deserve the label.

gently caress it, call me a oval office, too if you want to.

Sticks and stones. Palin is one of the cuntiest of cunts.

Have you enjoyed your dozen-year sleep, visitor from a world where that poo poo is acceptable?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Just say rear end in a top hat or poohead or some other butt thing, those are post gender.

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

SedanChair posted:

Have you enjoyed your dozen-year sleep, visitor from a world where that poo poo is acceptable?

I'm picturing goony Rip Van Winkle with a neckbeard.


FedoraDefender420 posted:

Just say rear end in a top hat or poohead or some other butt thing, those are post gender.

Now this is a modern man.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
I'm actually post-modern and post-man. Not in a gay way though.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

FedoraDefender420 posted:

I'm actually post-modern and post-man. Not in a gay way though.

I've got some packages on the way, could you grease a few hands and pull some levers to make sure they arrive safely?

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

In Palin's case though, it is almost appropriate. She really did go out of her way to play up all a lot of terrible stereotypes. Some times it is easiest just to call a spade a spade, especially when they are going on TV and being all, "Hey, look at me act like such a space!".

She was all about being a mom, and having sex appeal, and all the winking, and not having any clue about the outside world, or having any interest in reading a newspaper. oval office is a slur against women because it is an old term for vagina, and Palin was the vagina incarnate for those on the right wing. She was all about defending patriarchy and making babies, and otherwise being a dumb yet charming vagina.

Just recently, there was some conservative magazine cover with the headline "SARAH PALIN'S RACK" along with Palin making jokes about being fertile at some speech.

That's her schtick.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
I always felt like Sarah Palin was less about trying to get women to vote Republican by having a token woman but more about having a woman they could point to and say "hey women, this is what you should be." Or perhaps a mix of the two. Anyway, I kind of felt like she was more of a construct than an actual person. It seemed to me that she was picked because she fits what the Republican party seems to think is the ideal woman. She's physically attractive, she's stupid, and she does what she's told. She's had more children than average and thinks being a mother is just the single best thing ever. Her public image is that of a good woman who does whatever the patriarchs say because that's what a good woman does.

I could be wrong, of course, but Sarah Palin always struck me as somebody that was deliberately installed to serve as a role model, especially considering that she did manage to get a successful career as a politician. I felt like part of the message was "hey ladies, if you sit there and be pretty and do what you're told we might let you play at being a man some day and make you a VICE PRESIDENT!"

Let's just completely ignore the simple fact that the Republican party is openly hostile to women's issues.

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I always felt like Sarah Palin was less about trying to get women to vote Republican by having a token woman but more about having a woman they could point to and say "hey women, this is what you should be." Or perhaps a mix of the two. Anyway, I kind of felt like she was more of a construct than an actual person. It seemed to me that she was picked because she fits what the Republican party seems to think is the ideal woman. She's physically attractive, she's stupid, and she does what she's told. She's had more children than average and thinks being a mother is just the single best thing ever. Her public image is that of a good woman who does whatever the patriarchs say because that's what a good woman does.

I could be wrong, of course, but Sarah Palin always struck me as somebody that was deliberately installed to serve as a role model, especially considering that she did manage to get a successful career as a politician. I felt like part of the message was "hey ladies, if you sit there and be pretty and do what you're told we might let you play at being a man some day and make you a VICE PRESIDENT!"

Let's just completely ignore the simple fact that the Republican party is openly hostile to women's issues.

She's like an attractive Phyllis Schlafly. ;-*

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Guys guys!
According to John Oliver, we can just ignore her!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2uIFZRIDJA

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
She has no credability anymore except as a shill for Fox, so yeah we probably can.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Palin is close to the perfect physical embodiment of the Republican Bubble. No facts matter, no reality, no truth, just whatever liberal bashing is in fashion that day. And always, always the victim.

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action

Neremworld posted:

Even if it was 'almost appropriate', it doesn't justify it. It's not right to call black people who are huge jerks the n-word, or gay people who are huge jerks the f-word, do we? That's literally your argument. "Well, she's a huge jerk of a woman so we can use a slur denigrating women!"

Even if they act so-called 'sterotypical' of the word you want to use, it just makes you worse.

swampland fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Oct 5, 2019

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

HootTheOwl posted:

Guys guys!
According to John Oliver, we can just ignore her!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2uIFZRIDJA

Yea considering her only work these days is in venues you must actively buy tickets to go to, or Fox News, yea I can be pretty secure in my idea that I can live a life 100% Palin free.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea considering her only work these days is in venues you must actively buy tickets to go to, or Fox News, yea I can be pretty secure in my idea that I can live a life 100% Palin free.

I endorse this- she's effectively a professional troll at this point.

Or perhaps not, I have trouble discerning how much her behavior is governed by "My base will love this" Vs. "Those drat pinko liberals will hate this".

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
The problem with ignoring her is she still manages to spit out a phrase every so often that poisons the overall discourse (cf. "Death panels"). It's the same reason you can't just put bad forum trolls on ignore, everyone else responds anyway.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Hey, thanks for all the great replies!

You know who else I think are cunts? This is merely a partial list:

Sean Hannity
Michelle Bachmann
Rush Limbaugh
Gretchen Carlson
Scott Walker
This certain woman at my job who annnoys the poo poo out of me,
Lars Ulrich
Ann Coulter (although it may be intentional)
Governer McRory

Welcome to a whole new usage of the dreaded C-word! Set yourself free!

Now, being called goony by goons, that really ticks me off.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

^^^ Nobody gives a poo poo and using that word isn't going to magically be okay any time soon.

swampland posted:

I agree with your point but I'm also assuming you're not a child and can write friend of the family and human being without mummy telling you off when you're talking about those words.

It's called being respectful and it's something that adults do.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Dr. Faustus posted:

Hey, thanks for all the great replies!

You know who else I think are cunts? This is merely a partial list:

Sean Hannity
Michelle Bachmann
Rush Limbaugh
Gretchen Carlson
Scott Walker
This certain woman at my job who annnoys the poo poo out of me,
Lars Ulrich
Ann Coulter (although it may be intentional)
Governer McRory

Welcome to a whole new usage of the dreaded C-word! Set yourself free!

Now, being called goony by goons, that really ticks me off.
Is this where you start quoting Chris Rock to show us how above race you are and why its ok for you to call a whole bunch of people niggers?

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


I don't tip in restaurants or elsewhere and I think nobody else should either.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dr. Faustus posted:

Hey, thanks for all the great replies!

You know who else I think are cunts? This is merely a partial list:

Sean Hannity
Michelle Bachmann
Rush Limbaugh
Gretchen Carlson
Scott Walker
This certain woman at my job who annnoys the poo poo out of me,
Lars Ulrich
Ann Coulter (although it may be intentional)
Governer McRory

Welcome to a whole new usage of the dreaded C-word! Set yourself free!

Now, being called goony by goons, that really ticks me off.

You're a very brave man, can we get this guy a medal already?!

edit: Might as well say who you think are total faggots, since I'm sure that's next on your list.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Dr. Faustus posted:


Now, being called goony by goons, that really ticks me off.

Getting ticked off by goons is pretty goony. As is willfully ignoring the context and history associated with the ways people talk to each other.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Dr. Faustus posted:

Hey, thanks for all the great replies!

You know who else I think are cunts? This is merely a partial list:

Sean Hannity
Michelle Bachmann
Rush Limbaugh
Gretchen Carlson
Scott Walker
This certain woman at my job who annnoys the poo poo out of me,
Lars Ulrich
Ann Coulter (although it may be intentional)
Governer McRory

Welcome to a whole new usage of the dreaded C-word! Set yourself free!

Now, being called goony by goons, that really ticks me off.

Congratulations on being a character from one of the many lovely Kevin Smith movies I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdVwt2deY4

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
:cripes: So this is the thread version of Clerks II's "we're taking back porch monkey!" now? (only less funny)

In RW media news, Ben Stein's back to denying climate change, referring to the opposition (Read: the entire scientific community) as "global warming terrorists."

Edit: Goddamn you, beaten.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

OAquinas posted:

:cripes: So this is the thread version of Clerks II's "we're taking back porch monkey!" now? (only less funny)

In RW media news, Ben Stein's back to denying climate change, referring to the opposition (Read: the entire scientific community) as "global warming terrorists."

Edit: Goddamn you, beaten.

Ah, The Onion is leaking again I see.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

Neremworld posted:

Even if it was 'almost appropriate', it doesn't justify it. It's not right to call black people who are huge jerks the n-word, or gay people who are huge jerks the f-word, do we? That's literally your argument.

I remember the dark days of misogynist segregation in the south. One time, me and some of my gal pals decided to go to a local Denny's after softball practice. But when the hostess saw us walk in she folded her arms, gave us a hard look, and said "Sorry, we don't serve cunts in these parts. Now ya'll git!"

But seriously, oval office is an offensive word, and if a person asks you respectfully not to use it you should just be a decent human being and not use it.

Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 24, 2013

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Monkey Fracas posted:

Ah, The Onion is leaking again I see.

Sometimes it really feels like they've got a game of one-uping going on with The Onion. "You think we're that crazy? No, we're THIS crazy!"

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

greatn posted:

Michael Steele is a lot smarter and a lot more reasonable than Bobby Jindal, and a lot more moderate.

As I often do when discussing Jindal with my fellow Louisianians, I'll note that ol' Bobby is a Rhodes Scholar who was accepted by, and subsequently turned down Harvard Medical School.

Also particularly galling is that he did his poli sci master's thesis on health policy. The man knows exactly how much damage he's doing to our state's medical field; especially the slashing for poverty care. He is a monster.

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Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

As I often do when discussing Jindal with my fellow Louisianians, I'll note that ol' Bobby is a Rhodes Scholar who was accepted by, and subsequently turned down Harvard Medical School.

Also particularly galling is that he did his poli sci master's thesis on health policy. The man knows exactly how much damage he's doing to our state's medical field; especially the slashing for poverty care. He is a monster.

As I've seen from many a people who've put out a doctoral thesis; writing a thesis and missing the point can very easily go hand in hand.

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