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Robviously posted:As I've seen from many a people who've put out a doctoral thesis; writing a thesis and missing the point can very easily go hand in hand. Well, sure. But the point is that he isn't a crazed ignorant hick redlining away medical care for the poor because he doesn't know any better/jesus told him to. He's a very well-educated man, specifically in health policy, and an adult convert to catholicism. My point is that he absolutely should know better.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:As I often do when discussing Jindal with my fellow Louisianians, I'll note that ol' Bobby is a Rhodes Scholar who was accepted by, and subsequently turned down Harvard Medical School. This has always shocked me. But after the last election - anecdote alert! - I saw several very smart people go deep into the Teabag Fox pool. It flabbergasted me, and I've thought about it quite a bit. I believe that these folks can be infected by this madness, like a virus, and it turns a part of them very dumb. Or blinded. Thus, I think it's possible Jindal actually believes what he's talking about these days, regardless of his previous education. He's been infected by Wingnuttery.
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Taerkar posted:Sometimes it really feels like they've got a game of one-uping going on with The Onion. "You think we're that crazy? No, we're THIS crazy!" "And it's not like we're losing votes for it.  "
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It's really easy to manipulate smart people by just saying only really smart people would agree with you. Smart isn't the same as as savvy.
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Jun 24, 2013 21:26
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Smart people can make bad decisions. It's not like the barometer for being smart is "Has impeccable judgment, always makes the right decision."
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It's funny because a lot of rednecks will say "LOTS OF SMART PEOPLE WITH NO COMMON SENSE" when describing liberals.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Welcome to a whole new usage of the dreaded C-word! Set yourself free! What a wondrous future you live in, where oval office has shed it's womanly origins and has transcended being insulting and insulting to women to just insulting. I, who lack your freedom, will just have to resort to using various combinations of poo poo and a noun. Shitheel.
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HootTheOwl posted:What a wondrous future you live in, where oval office has shed it's womanly origins and has transcended being insulting and insulting to women to just insulting. Well, sorry about the derail (honestly, I should have known better), but to end it allow me to note that not all uses of the dreaded C-word are either a) gender-specific or b) even denigrating. There are places (mostly) outside the US where the dreaded C-word is used very commonly as a term of endearment or a catch-all for friends and enemies alike. Context is important! (No, really.) O, and to whomever asked, all the faggots I know personally are awesome people and I adore them. And you know something, sometimes I dislike someone so intensely that no other word will do. And I think that's ok! If that makes me deplorable to you or anyone else, I'm ok with that, too. To sum up: I think everyone can agree on Lars Ulrich. Please, let's now return to discussing the Right Wing Media. If you have PMs, please send your derision to me directly and let the thread move on. How is the Right Wing Media responding to the live-blogging of the George Zimmerman trial today? edit: Day One is over, Day Two begins tomorrow @ 9am. I've been following the live blog at HLN. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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It's kind of weird how invested you are in being able to use certain words.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Well, sorry about the derail (honestly, I should have known better), but to end it allow me to note that not all uses of the dreaded C-word are either a) gender-specific or b) even denigrating. There are places (mostly) outside the US where the dreaded C-word is used very commonly as a term of endearment or a catch-all for friends and enemies alike. Context is important! (No, really.) And the context was that you threw a screaming fit over not being able to call a woman the c-word as the worst insult you could think of.  It's so nice and friendly and some people in another country (who renamed a British noble rank to avoid it sounding too much like this word) don't think it's so bad but it sure is something I only call people who I hate most of all! God drat what the gently caress. Typical Pubbie posted:But seriously, oval office is an offensive word, and if a person asks you respectfully not to use it you should just be a decent human being and not use it. See what's great is that that's exactly what happened and Dr. Faustus became literally offended over that happening. swampland posted:I agree with your point but I'm also assuming you're not a child and can write friend of the family and human being without mummy telling you off when you're talking about those words. Also my mom would literally rise from her grave and drag me down to hell. Neremworld fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jun 24, 2013 |
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mr. mephistopheles posted:
Neremworld posted:As stated, it's a matter of respect. swampland fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Don't get confused by Jindal's credentials. He's not smart. He's "useful Republican smart." It's like a 7-year-old kid coming to church and saying "I created a logical proof for the existence of Jesus!" and everyone falls to the ground and starts speaking in tongues. Book deals follow.
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Neremworld posted:And the context was that you threw a screaming fit... God drat what the gently caress. I what? I re-read my post. I asked the question and yes, I defended the use of a word. Yes, I even used it. I assert my right to use it, if I deem it appropriate. I guess I should have expected some amount of pearl-clutching and couch-fainting at the notion; but I have yet to approach anything like a "screaming fit." quote:See what's great is that that's exactly what happened and Dr. Faustus became literally offended over that happening. I was not (and still am not) "literally" offended over "that happening." I just find it passing strange that some SA members could be so vehemently against the "salty language," just considering the nature and history of the website and forums, but... quote:Also my mom would literally rise from her grave and drag me down to hell.  I've made a good-faith effort to get the thread back on track. Between the Fisher case "ruling" from SCOTUS today and the Zimmerman live-blogging, there ought to be some craziness from the Right Wing Media by now. Does anyone have an example? I don't listen to the radio except 40 minutes of NPR during my commute. I wanna read about what Rush had to say about the poor white girl who couldn't get into a school because of inferior blacks.
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swampland posted:I disagree, I think it's ridiculous and childish if you're discussing something to not even be able to say the words you're discussing and c-word, f-word and n-word sound like something a five year old would say. I'm not advocating using those words in casual conversation or calling people them but as a gay person if someone said something about someone being called an EFF WORD! I wouldn't think they were super respectful just dumb as hell. Well that's cool that you feel that way, but saying the word and using an inoffensive euphemism are functionally identical when discussing those words and I think there's no reason to use the actual word other than childish "gently caress you dad" style rebelliousness. Although when it comes down to it you're conflating people who won't say it with people who feign offense when someone says "crap" in public and we're conflating you with "words are just words they only have the power you give them!" overprivileged dipshits. Either way it's just being polite. As a straight white male I don't really feel comfortable determining when I am allowed to use words that exist to denigrate minority groups, whether I'm having an academic discussion or not. You're free to feel differently. mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jun 25, 2013 |
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Jun 25, 2013 00:10
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Hey guys, what does any of this bullshit have to do with right wing media?
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Protocol 5 posted:Hey guys, what does any of this bullshit have to do with right wing media?
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Protocol 5 posted:Hey guys, what does any of this bullshit have to do with right wing media? This thread is lucky to be on topic half the time. Also this all stemmed from right wing media jumping to defend Paula Deen being racist and decry political correctness, which are staple right wing media talking points and worth discussing. It's honestly one of the least deraily derails the thread has had. Didn't we derail about sports or something for a couple pages once?
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Someone linked me to this video to prove to me that we just need to let up on the job creators. If you can sit through the whole thing without going on a murderous rampage or sobbing hysterically at how incredibly hosed up this all is then you clearly have been robbed of your humanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ inside: white man explaining why the rich white men shouldn't be taxed more because even if we killed the rich and took everything they had it would only 'get us through' one year. Because republicans literally do not understand that things have consequences farther down the road than this quarter.
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Warchicken posted:Someone linked me to this video to prove to me that we just need to let up on the job creators. If you can sit through the whole thing without going on a murderous rampage or sobbing hysterically at how incredibly hosed up this all is then you clearly have been robbed of your humanity. I love how he opens with the Mary Poppins reference, conveniently ignoring the utter lambasting the "elite bankers" received in that movie, hungry and going into a rage when they aren't able to take 50 pence from a child.
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OAquinas posted:I love how he opens with the Mary Poppins reference, conveniently ignoring the utter lambasting the "elite bankers" received in that movie, hungry and going into a rage when they aren't able to take 50 pence from a child. He was actually idealizing that movie. I actually thought this was a parody for almost the entire video. I just can't loving tell anymore.
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Warchicken posted:Someone linked me to this video to prove to me that we just need to let up on the job creators. If you can sit through the whole thing without going on a murderous rampage or sobbing hysterically at how incredibly hosed up this all is then you clearly have been robbed of your humanity. Seen this before and this guy is a popular libertarian youtube personality with a bunch of horribly lovely videos. He appeals to dumb people because he's older and speaks with authority and it makes him seem intelligent and well-read.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Seen this before and this guy is a popular libertarian youtube personality with a bunch of horribly lovely videos. Ugh, "popular libertarian youtube personality" won't fit in the namechange form.
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Yeah his videos are loving terrible. Everyone in the comments is jacking off over Thatcher, how can anybody see what she did was good? Seems like Americans love her, but the Brits hate her guts because they actually had to deal with her poo poo.
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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XyloJW posted:Ugh, "popular libertarian youtube personality" won't fit in the namechange form. Perhaps you could adopt a shorter abbreviation. Like POLYP.
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Stop acting like cunts. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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AircraftNoise posted:Stop acting like cunts. Please stop this stupid derail. 
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XyloJW posted:Ugh, "popular libertarian youtube personality" won't fit in the namechange form. Vlogging Milty
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address God drat illegal immigrants getting tax refunds for the taxes they paid to the government while participating in our economy and working!!! God drat them!!!!!
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Warchicken posted:http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address It's actually a really hilarious story considering one of the most ridiculous claims about illegal immigrants is how they don't have to pay any taxes. That sure is a lot of refunds for people who never needed to pay any taxes in the first place...
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Warchicken posted:http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address Considering undocumented workers often have large families and low paying jobs, they probably are receiving more from the government than they pay into the system.
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rakovsky maybe posted:Considering undocumented workers often have large families and low paying jobs, they probably are receiving more from the government than they pay into the system. I can't recall where I read it, but I remember some thinktank did some math and concluded that taking into account what they pay in sales tax, income tax withheld for those with fake socials (and generally not refunded because they're scared of showing up on the radar) versus what they use in public resources, public schools, and emergency room visits, illegal immigrants are a very very slight drain, in terms of tax money. At worst, their influence on taxes was, as the study concluded, inconsequential. Especially when you consider the effect they have driving the economy, and compare it to the proposals to kick out the illegals and what that would do in terms of tax dollars.
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Yes, but they're not white. Why even bring up all the other stuff?
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Yeah his videos are loving terrible. Everyone in the comments is jacking off over Thatcher, how can anybody see what she did was good? Seems like Americans love her, but the Brits hate her guts because they actually had to deal with her poo poo. The spectacular failure of Thatcher's government on every front (besides the Falklands, I guess?) is something that American conservatives can never, ever admit. Remember, conservatism can never fail, it can only be betrayed. Admitting that Thatcher was wrong is effectively admitting that their basic ideas of how to run everything from schools to corporations is entirely wrong, fabricated from bullshit economic and social theories. Of course, they can't admit that, no matter how blindingly obvious it is to everyone who isn't a rich white guy or who doesn't worship rich white guys.
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Quite honestly, there was a pertinent point brought up rather recently by some members of the Right Wing Media. Lemme see if I can dredge it up. http://www.mediaite.com/online/limbaugh-rips-gop-for-being-embarrassed-of-its-base-republican-party-is-hanging-by-a-thread/ So let me get this straight. The Republican Party is embarrassed for the fact that a giant chunk of its constituents are a bunch of mouthbreathers that hang on whatever the television tells them? Why, yes, I'd be embarrassed too. And apparently, feeling shame for the fact that some members of your party are horrible racist douchebags is apparently a bad thing according to Rush. Apparently, the best way for a party to represent the REAL America is through gun-toting, tobacco-chewing, jingoistic racist pricks. And the thing is, my dad is Republican. I've asked him, time and time again, why does he agree with this stuff? He doesn't. He agrees with the fiscal policies of the Republican party (which I'm not gonna go into), but he listens to Rush, who espouses the entire Right-Wing bullshit machine. I dunno. Seems dumb to me. fishception fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jun 25, 2013 |
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rakovsky maybe posted:Considering undocumented workers often have large families and low paying jobs, they probably are receiving more from the government than they pay into the system. On paper, maybe, but that's only because workers don't get to count the economic activity of their labor in terms of their total tax contribution.
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BUSH 2112 posted:The spectacular failure of Thatcher's government on every front (besides the Falklands, I guess?) is something that American conservatives can never, ever admit. Remember, conservatism can never fail, it can only be betrayed. Admitting that Thatcher was wrong is effectively admitting that their basic ideas of how to run everything from schools to corporations is entirely wrong, fabricated from bullshit economic and social theories. The actual effects of her policy don't mean poo poo, anyway. She had a good zinger about socialism that people love to quote, and really, doesn't the basic, good ol' fashioned COMMON SENSE truth of that erase all the damage she did?
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Right wing media conglomerate Family Research Council has proven their rear end in a top hat label again. FRC launches “Fight ENDA” campaign quote:In an effort to lobby against the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), the Family Research Council Action launched a campaign called “Fight ENDA.” I am going to assume the billed part is teaching jobs because what else could it be?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Right wing media conglomerate Family Research Council has proven their rear end in a top hat label again. The only thing satisfying about this is knowing how these assholes will look in ~20 years.
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Mitchicon posted:The only thing satisfying about this is knowing how these assholes will look in ~20 years. And in the age of the search-indexed Internet and omnipresent cameraphones, we will always have the option to bust out their equivalent of attwater.mp3. The Gay Agenda will be our generation's Race Mixing is Communism. 
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