Mitchicon posted:

Yet Reagen didn't fix things, and the problems that led to the current crisis are actively being defended by the opposing party.

So, not the same.

DarkHorse posted:

Wheee!

THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

platedlizard posted:

On topic: I can never figure out Chemtrials are supposed to do? Mind-control us all into a New World Order?

Gen. Ripper posted:

Kill us all, because one of the NWO's fiendish plans is to reduce the population by ~80%. For evil funzies.

Sir Rolo posted:

You know, considering there have been chemtrails as long as there have been airplanes, this seems like one of the slowest, least ineffective methods of mass-poisoning ever. In fact, I'm pretty sure the average lifespan has gone up considerably over the age of air travel.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

By lengthening lifespans, they're creating artificial overpopulation so that they can justify their schemes to themselves.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

By lengthening lifespans, they're creating artificial overpopulation so that they can justify their schemes to themselves.

Sir Rolo posted:

You know, considering there have been chemtrails as long as there have been airplanes, this seems like one of the slowest, least ineffective methods of mass-poisoning ever. In fact, I'm pretty sure the average lifespan has gone up considerably over the age of air travel.

Why doesn't the NWO just start directly poisoning large bodies of water?

Fulchrum posted:

Because that's the Illuminati's plan by adding flouride to the drinking water.

That's why neither have killed us yet - flouride and chemtrails actually cancel each other out. That's why we can never get rid of either, or we'll be helpless.

AllTerrineVehicle posted:

Chemtrails are actually beneficial, they're made from a version of the immortality elixir that the Illuminati learned from the lizard people. They're just trying to do us a solid by making us healthier in secret because we're too paranoid to trust anyone.

Phone posted:

How inspired.

clockwork sundial posted:

I live in small town New York and as I was driving through nearby small town, I saw about a dozen people with signs protesting (?) chemtrails. One of them had a sign that said "Google 'Chemtrails'" which I did and the top few results are about how it's a conspiracy theory with no merit.

Maybe not the best suggestion?

TerminalSaint posted:

(Don't get me wrong, monsanto and citizens united both suck, but what a stupid slogan/attempted rallying cry.)

UnmaskedGremlin posted:

ObamaCars:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ration-bill-too

In which Marco Rubio himself said the article was full of poo poo. Doesn't stop my FB feed by being littered with this garbage.

quote:

The Lead Vaccine Developer Comes Clean So She Can “Sleep At Night”: Gardasil and Cervarix Don’t Work, Are Dangerous, and Weren’t Tested



Dr. Diane Harper was the lead researcher in the development of the human papilloma virus vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix. She is the latest to come forward and question the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines. She made the surprising announcement at the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination, which took place in Reston, Virginia on Oct. 2nd through 4th, 2009. Her speech was supposed to promote the Gardasil and Cervarix vaccines, but she instead turned on her corporate bosses in a very public way. When questioned about the presentation, audience members remarked that they came away feeling that the vaccines should not be used.

“I came away from the talk with the perception that the risk of adverse side effects is so much greater than the risk of cervical cancer, I couldn’t help but question why we need the vaccine at all.” – Joan Robinson

Dr. Harper explained in her presentation that the cervical cancer risk in the U.S. is already extremely low, and that vaccinations are unlikely to have any effect upon the rate of cervical cancer in the United States. In fact, 70% of all H.P.V. infections resolve themselves without treatment in a year, and the number rises to well over 90% in two years. Harper also mentioned the safety angle. All trials of the vaccines were done on children aged 15 and above, despite them currently being marketed for 9-year-olds. So far, 15,037 girls have reported adverse side effects from Gardasil alone to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (V.A.E.R.S.), and this number only reflects parents who underwent the hurdles required for reporting adverse reactions. At the time of writing, 44 girls are officially known to have died from these vaccines. The reported side effects include Guillian Barré Syndrome (paralysis lasting for years, or permanently — sometimes eventually causing suffocation), lupus, seizures, blood clots, and brain inflammation. Parents are usually not made aware of these risks. Dr. Harper, the vaccine developer, claimed that she was speaking out, so that she might finally be able to sleep at night.

“About eight in every ten women who have been sexually active will have H.P.V. at some stage of their life. Normally there are no symptoms, and in 98 per cent of cases it clears itself. But in those cases where it doesn’t, and isn’t treated, it can lead to pre-cancerous cells which may develop into cervical cancer.” - Dr. Diane Harper

One must understand how the establishment’s word games are played to truly understand the meaning of the above quote, and one needs to understand its unique version of “science”. When they report that untreated cases “can” lead to something that “may” lead to cervical cancer, it really means that the relationship is merely a hypothetical conjecture that is profitable if people actually believe it. In other words, there is no demonstrated relationship between the condition being vaccinated for and the rare cancers that the vaccine might prevent, but it is marketed to do that nonetheless. In fact, there is no actual evidence that the vaccine can prevent any cancer. From the manufacturers own admissions, the vaccine only works on 4 strains out of 40 for a specific venereal disease that dies on its own in a relatively short period, so the chance of it actually helping an individual is about about the same as the chance of him being struck by a meteorite. Why do nine-year-old girls need vaccinations for extremely rare and symptom-less venereal diseases that the immune system usually kills anyway?

TURN IT OFF! posted:

I got this this on Facebook.


I work in a hospital, and so already in the pocket of Big Pharma and probably have an agenda if I challenge those claims. I responded with "The same page warns against chem-trails and says that looking into the sun gives you superpower. Hmm."
Let's see how that works.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/hpv-vaccine-cuts-infections-in-teen-girls-by-half-u-s-study-1.1332578 posted:

HPV vaccine cuts infections in teen girls by half: U.S. study

ATLANTA -- A vaccine against a cervical cancer virus cut infections in teen girls by half in the first study to measure the shot's impact since it came on the market. The results impressed health experts and a top government top health official called them striking.

The research released Wednesday echoes studies done before the HPV vaccine became available in 2006. But the new study is the first evidence of just how well it works now that it is in general use.

Only about half of teen girls in the U.S. have gotten at least one dose of the expensive vaccine, and just a third of teen girls have had all three shots, according to the latest government figures.

"These are striking results and I think they should be a wake-up call that we need to increase vaccination rates," said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Cervical cancer is caused by certain types of the common sexually transmitted virus called HPV, for human papillomavirus. The vaccine, which costs about $130 per dose, protects against a few of those strains, including two blamed for 70 per cent of cervical cancers. The shots work best if given before someone is sexually active so the emphasis has been on giving the shots to 11- and 12-year olds.

The CDC study compared infection rates in girls ages 14 to 19 before and after the vaccine became available. The proportion infected with the targeted HPV strains dropped 56 per cent, from about 12 per cent before the vaccine was sold to 5 per cent. That result was for all teens after it was on the market, whether or not they were vaccinated.
Among girls who had gotten the vaccine, the drop in HPV infections was higher -- 88 per cent.

There are two vaccines against HPV, but the study mainly reflects the impact of Gardasil, the Merck & Co. vaccine that came on the market in 2006. A second vaccine approved in 2009 -- GlaxoSmithKline's Cervarix -- probably had relatively little bearing on the results, said the CDC's Dr. Lauri Markowitz, the study's lead author.

Both vaccines are approved in the U.S. for use in males and females -- in ages 9 to 26 for females, and 9 to 21 in males. The vaccine was only recommended for boys in late 2011, and the CDC has not yet reported data on how many boys have gotten the shot since then. HPV vaccination requires three shots over 6 months.

An estimated 75 to 80 per cent of men and women are infected with HPV during their lifetime. Most don't develop symptoms and clear it on their own. But some infections lead to genital warts, cervical cancer and other cancers. The study didn't look at cervical cancer rates. It can take many years for such cancers to develop, and not enough time has passed to know the vaccine's impact on cancer rates, CDC officials said.

The study involved interviews and physical examinations of nearly 1,400 teen girls in 2003 through 2006 and of 740 girls in 2007 through 2010.

The vaccine's impact was seen even though only 34 per cent of the teens in the second group had received any vaccine. That could be due to "herd immunity" -- when a population is protected from an infection because a large or important smaller group is immune.

Only about 20 per cent of those vaccinated got all three doses. That result will likely feed an ongoing discussion about whether all three doses are necessary, Markowitz said.

Overall, the study found no significant change over time in the proportion of teens who'd ever had sex and in those who had multiple sex partners. However, it did find that a higher percentage of vaccinated teens said they'd had three or more sex partners.

That could have driven down infection rates, Markowitz noted, if the teens who got vaccinated were the ones at highest risk of getting an infection and spreading it.
The research was released online by the Journal of Infectious Diseases.

vyelkin posted:

But I guess this study doesn't count because it was conducted by the CDC, which is probably evil for some reason or some poo poo, I don't know.

Stew Man Chew posted:

You jest, but one of the principle opponents to the latest sex ed bill here in good ol' South Carolina objected to the use of evidence from places such as the CDC, the AMA and the WHO because they are "liberal organizations". He considered their endorsement a strike against the bill's recommendations.

The loving CDC.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Since I long purged my social media of anyone who isn't down with same sex marriage (for fucks sack it's 2013, people), I expect this thread to feed me the inevitable tears of bigots.

ozmunkeh posted:

Wheeee

ozmunkeh posted:

Wheeee

Amused to Death posted:

"Your lord sucks, my jesus loves gay marriage."(seriously, all the churches in the city of various denominations support gay marriage here)

ozmunkeh posted:

Wheeee