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sebmojo posted:Carthago Ah. It was a documentary series he did about, I want to say ancient architecture. He was in the ruins of Carthage and he was talking about how Cato would end every speech with him, and holy gently caress the way he said it made me want to go out and destroy Carthage with my own two hands.
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Frostwerks posted:This doesn't answer your question but with regard to the suicide scene, isn't shaving and cleaning up something a non-negligible number of suicide victims do? Which is only more confusing, since he doesn't finish shaving, I think he only makes a couple passes.
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Jun 24, 2013 10:45
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Tenenbaum chat: I always read it as him experiencing the utter panic and anxiety that goes with a breaking heart. He's shaving himself to completely change his physical appearance, the appearance that he perceived as being rejected by Margot. His mind is racing with all the imaginary flaws that could have resulted in her rejecting him. He wants the pain and self loathing to stop and suddenly the thought of killing himself pops into his head. "Tomorrow" he says, meaning he still has hope his physical transformation will suffice. But as he finishes shaving he sees the same person that was always there and realises there's absolutely no hope. poo poo I've gone through a similar thing before but instead of wanting to kill myself I just said gently caress it and moved on, then again the object of my affections probably didn't have the allure that Margot is supposed to have, nor was I in as bad a mental state as Richie.
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Jun 24, 2013 13:37
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Not an intentional one I'm sure, but it's subtle, until you notice it and then it's probably about the most blatant series of continuity errors ever in a short space of time. In Grosse Point Blank, at the bar when he's talking with Debbie, watch the drinks along with their lemon slices/umbrellas etc. As they cut back and forth between the characters, drinks magically drink themselves then refill, move around the table and back again, cocktail glasses appear and disappear. I'm guessing that the actors and crew just had far too much fun shooting it, focussed only on the characters and never paid attention to the drinks. Can't find a clip of it anywhere but check it out cos it's an amazing movie anyway.
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Jun 24, 2013 16:17
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That happens a whole lot in a bunch of movies
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Jun 24, 2013 16:21
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I think the worst example if that is in Oceans 11, Brad Pitt goes from eating a glass or shrimp cocktail to a plate, then back, within a few seconds.
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Jun 24, 2013 16:57
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Coffee And Pie posted:I think the worst example if that is in Oceans 11, Brad Pitt goes from eating a glass or shrimp cocktail to a plate, then back, within a few seconds. Maybe Brad Pitt just eats shrimp real quickly.
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Jun 24, 2013 17:27
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That's one of the things that when you first notice it, you can't help but notice it time and time again. Also goes for smoking cigarettes. It doesn't take me out of my ~immersion~ like the Wilhelm scream does, though. That's just so grating.
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Jun 24, 2013 17:29
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mng posted:That's one of the things that when you first notice it, you can't help but notice it time and time again. Also goes for smoking cigarettes. It doesn't take me out of my ~immersion~ like the Wilhelm scream does, though. That's just so grating. Ugh, the Wilhelm scream is unbearable now that its in every other movie. Do sound editors really still think its a funny in-joke or easter egg or something? The one little thing I can't help but notice in movies and tv shows is characters holding coffee cups that obviously have no coffee in them. Actors will often be holding coffee cups or mugs and be gesticulating wildly and then just drop them on a table with no care and you can tell there's nothing in them. Stands out to me more than anything else.
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Jun 24, 2013 18:25
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Coffee And Pie posted:I think the worst example if that is in Oceans 11, Brad Pitt goes from eating a glass or shrimp cocktail to a plate, then back, within a few seconds. I thought I heard that was completely intentional, and that it was a thing that Brad Pitt's character was always eating something or always holding something throughout the entire movie(s).
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Jun 24, 2013 18:30
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Calaveron posted:I thought I heard that was completely intentional, and that it was a thing that Brad Pitt's character was always eating something or always holding something throughout the entire movie(s). I don't know about that, but something that often gets pointed out is just how much Brad Pitt eats and drinks on screen. Once you know about how it's easier for continuity if nobody actually eats their meal on screen it's funny to see how often you get him doing it. And of course, the internet has a montage of Brad Pitt eating things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gIaozs095k
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Jun 24, 2013 18:34
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I'm a little disappointed that they didn't have the clip from Fight Club where he calls Edward Norton at the payphone and is loudly eating chips on the other end.
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Jun 24, 2013 21:00
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I had read that he was trying to quit smoking during Ocean's 11 and the non-stop snacking helped so they did it on camera. It's clearly become his trademark, like Tom Cruise with the sprinting.
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Jun 24, 2013 21:11
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Supreme Allah posted:I had read that he was trying to quit smoking during Ocean's 11 and the non-stop snacking helped so they did it on camera. It's clearly become his trademark, like Tom Cruise with the sprinting. Or Tom Hanks and peeing.
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Jun 24, 2013 21:36
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volts5000 posted:Or Tom Hanks and peeing. Or Cillian Murphy with a bag over his head and Bryan Cranston in tightie-whities.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Or Cillian Murphy with a bag over his head and Bryan Cranston in tightie-whities. Sounds like a party.
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Jun 24, 2013 22:22
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sebmojo posted:Carthago
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mng posted:That's one of the things that when you first notice it, you can't help but notice it time and time again. Also goes for smoking cigarettes. It doesn't take me out of my ~immersion~ like the Wilhelm scream does, though. That's just so grating. Watch Tony Stark's hands during the speech he's giving at the Stark Expo at the start of Iron Man 2. The speech is obviously from, like, six different takes and RDJ did a different thing with his hands in every one. It's infuriating.
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R. Mute posted:Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam, pleb. I recognize this as "Also, I think that Carthage must be destroyed", but let's see what Google Translate thinks. Google Translate posted:CATO THE ELDER Okey doc. What if we break the sentence down a bit? Google Translate posted:Else That will do, google translate. That will do. Now let me tell you about the rabbits 
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Not sure how subtle this is, since my 10 year old babysittee caught it, but in Wreck-It Ralph once you know who King Candy really is, it almost hits you in the face because Turbo ruined two other racing games before finally figuring out how to make a real takeover work. It isn't enough to appear in a game, you have to make the game accept you. That said and all, why didn't any of the arcade players notice a lack of Vanellope in the game? You'd think that would have been marked as a glitch right off and ended Turbo's third attempt pretty fast.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Not sure how subtle this is, since my 10 year old babysittee caught it, but in Wreck-It Ralph once you know who King Candy really is, it almost hits you in the face because Turbo ruined two other racing games before finally figuring out how to make a real takeover work. It isn't enough to appear in a game, you have to make the game accept you. That said and all, why didn't any of the arcade players notice a lack of Vanellope in the game? You'd think that would have been marked as a glitch right off and ended Turbo's third attempt pretty fast. There are a bunch of other little hints like the candy castle being decorated in pink ("Salmon, it's obviously salmon!"), King Candy having a completely different style and proportions compared to the child-like native racers, and King Candy's car isn't actually made of candy like all the other racers.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Or Cillian Murphy with a bag over his head and Bryan Cranston in tightie-whities. Or Milla Jovovich waking up naked in a laboratory.
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ol qwerty bastard posted:Or Milla Jovovich naked
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Cowslips Warren posted:Not sure how subtle this is, since my 10 year old babysittee caught it, but in Wreck-It Ralph once you know who King Candy really is, it almost hits you in the face because Turbo ruined two other racing games before finally figuring out how to make a real takeover work. It isn't enough to appear in a game, you have to make the game accept you. That said and all, why didn't any of the arcade players notice a lack of Vanellope in the game? You'd think that would have been marked as a glitch right off and ended Turbo's third attempt pretty fast. There was sort of an out for that: The game had all of the potential players "race themselves" each day to determine who was actually playable that day. Unless a kid was coming into that arcade almost every day, they would just think that Venelope didn't get in the "top 10" or whatever that day, so wasn't available as a choice.
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Supreme Allah posted:I had read that he was trying to quit smoking during Ocean's 11 and the non-stop snacking helped so they did it on camera. It's clearly become his trademark, like Tom Cruise with the sprinting. As I recall, it was Brad Pitt's idea, his reasoning being that if he was planning a complicated heist in a short amount of time, he wouldn't be taking time out for meals. I hadn't heard the smoking thing until now.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:There are a bunch of other little hints like the candy castle being decorated in pink ("Salmon, it's obviously salmon!"), King Candy having a completely different style and proportions compared to the child-like native racers, and King Candy's car isn't actually made of candy like all the other racers. Another subtle hint is when King Candy immediately recognized Wreck-It Ralph when it was obvious that the other players didn't. He also immediately knew what going Turbo meant. A big giveaway is, if you listen to Turbo during the flashback when Felix explains what "going Turbo" is, Turbo's voice is the same as King Candy's.
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Coffee And Pie posted:I think the worst example if that is in Oceans 11, Brad Pitt goes from eating a glass or shrimp cocktail to a plate, then back, within a few seconds. Watch the big battle scene in Braveheart for some wacky continuity. When the Scotsmen are charging across the field, William Wallace is holding his claymore. Then a mattock. Then the claymore again. Then the mattock again and finally the claymore again. Memento has a new favorite as of 10:02 on Jun 25, 2013 |
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Memento1979 posted:Watch the big battle scene in Braveheart for some wacky continuity. When the Scotsmen are charging across the field, William Wallace is holding his claymore. Then a mattock. Then the claymore again. Then the mattock again and finally the claymore again. There's a million of these in Gladiator but I think my favorite is at the very beginning as the two armies clash you can very clearly see some guys standing around talking. I don't know why they would be since there were a few hundred guys around them charging at each other and fighting. Maybe they were separate cuts taken to make it look like there were more people than actually were.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjfDz6ick8M Ahead of The World's End they have just released a little featurette on the Three Flavours Cornetto trilogy. A lot of the stuff has been covered here before but the Public Enemy quotes had passed me by
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Due to all the Kubrick chat earlier I went and watched the Stanley Kubrick a Life in Pictures documentary. On it they had a photographic still from one of his films sets with a huge, angry sign over some props saying something like "continuity DO NOT TOUCH!!!", that's all it takes fer fucks sake. In conclusion, some film makers are stupid, lazy morons I guess. That or they are too scared to shoo Brad Pitt away from the buffet.
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It's more difficult for things like cigarettes, drinks and food where the actor has to be shown drinking or eating them, and cigarettes are just always burning down.
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Jun 25, 2013 15:47
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Obviously they need to get with the times and have them use e-cigs.
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Jun 25, 2013 15:52
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View the take you want to follow, trim and light another cigarette to match.
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What if the best take has a minor continuity error? Are you going to throw away the best captured performance because the cigarettes wrong?BiggerBoat posted:Shutter Island was pretty great but I doubt I would have enjoyed it as much had I not read the book first, where usually that's the exact opposite situation. I think the book does a better job with the overall set up and the reveal but you're right. When you watch it again all of the clues, facial expressions, tics and non responses really ring out loud. Having just watched it the way Ben Kinglseys character says that it used to be that patients were mistreated, even "...drowned" he says it like he's worried just saying the word is going to set Teddy off. And again in the scene where Teddy realises that Kingsley is lying to him about there being 66 patients, Kinglseys expression is "good job, he's figured it out" massive spider has a new favorite as of 14:35 on Jun 26, 2013 |
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Cakefool posted:View the take you want to follow, trim and light another cigarette to match. They don't necessarily know which takes will be used during filming.
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Carthag posted:They don't necessarily know which takes will be used during filming. I think the solution is clear: CGI cigarettes.
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I remember reading that Robert DeNiro just always held any cigarette he was holding the same distance from the burning end the entire time Casino was being filmed.
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That's pretty clever! That Robert Deniro is a clever beast.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I remember reading that Robert DeNiro just always held any cigarette he was holding the same distance from the burning end the entire time Casino was being filmed. In Mad Men they solve the problem by having every character light up a new cigarette during every shot.
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Raising Arizona is full of little things and subtle moments. It's even one of the main themes of the film: "it's a hard world for little things." Most Coen Brothers movies are really great at this (A Simple Man, Big Lebowski, No Country for Old Men, The Man Who Wasn't There), but Raising Arizona stands out for me, maybe because I've seen it the most times. If I were to watch it again and post while watching it, I'd probably find 50-100 such moments. The stucco ceiling is pretty great. Who would think of that? I like the callback to "FART" that Glen's kid scribbled on the wall earlier, much like the like the palm-ade in the restroom, the constant going back and retrieval of the Dr. Spock book, and "what's he need, his Dip-Tet?" There's a lot of really clever callbacks to dialogue that was spoken or props that were placed around earlier in the film; the grenades on Small's vest, the hole in the ground, the way H.I. calmly and specifically browses for Huggies brand diapers in the midst of committing an armed robbery and, of course, the road runner tattoo, which I suppose isn't all that subtle, but whatever. And look what the internet gave me: In the scene were H.I.’s co-worker is telling him about the wreck (“… there was this spherical object restin’ in the highway, and it wasn’t a piece of the car,”) their coveralls say “Hudsucker Industries.” Nathan Sr. tells the FBI Nathan Jr. was wearing his jammies (“Nobody sleeps naked in this house, boy!” 'They had Yodas and poo poo on em'."), but, in fact, the quints were wearing only diapers. And speaking of Kubrick: The graffiti on the men’s room door at the gas station where Gale and Evelle clean up after releasing themselves on their own recognizance says “P.O.E/O.P.E” That’s a reference Dr. Strangelove. It stands for “peace on Earth” or “purity of essence” and is the code needed to avert the apocalypse. There's so, so much more. I need to watch this movie again. Fun and coincidental fact: My real name is Herbert (like H.I.) and my son's name is Nathan. I smile when I think about that. Sadly though, my wife's name is not Edwina.
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