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Qwo
Sep 27, 2011

Bloody Pancreas posted:

If I were to do this, would there be anything on the side that I should do, like crafting/potion making/minigames? I'm a big side-quest junkie and the thought of going gung-ho through the game only to find I've been missing sidequests because I skimped on boring, unnecessary stuff could kill it for me.
The game is one long, unvaried fetch quest, do don't stick along longer than you have to, unless it's for the lovely dice sidequests.

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Ryen Deckard
Jun 28, 2008

My blood is red, white, and blue.
Just wanted to update from the perspective of somebody who has played about an hour of both witcher games.

Oh my god 2 is night and day better. 1 feels like good mod for an RPG, 2 feels like a great game. So far 2 feels like Mass Effect in a fantasy setting, which is great.

Gharbad the Weak
Feb 23, 2008

This too good for you.
I read up a bit, and it seems like the only way for me to get target icons is to ENABLE ubersampling, which is annoying. I'm still not getting riposte icons, though, so I guess I'm waiting for the patch to the mod.

epmode
Feb 11, 2008

I was having UI trouble until I changed from a 16:10 aspect ratio to 16:9. Maybe that will help.

Elmo Oxygen
Jun 11, 2007

Kazuo Misaki Superfan #3

Don't make me lift my knee, young man.

Qwo posted:

The game is one long, unvaried fetch quest, do don't stick along longer than you have to, unless it's for the lovely dice sidequests.

The murder mystery in chapter 2 is amazing and easily justifies a playthrough.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Qwo posted:

lovely dice sidequests.

gently caress dice poker. gently caress it hard.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Fuzz posted:

The durations were the biggest issue.
Also the lack of oils.

I dunno, Witcher 1 just felt more witchery than 2, because there was a wider variety of monsters and you could legitimately use the alchemy to make the right oils and potions to turn a fight with one of them from difficult and challenging to a hilarious pimp-slapping, which is kind of the point. I felt like I was researching the enemy and utilizing all my tools in 1, whereas in 2 I literally beat the whole game just rolling around and stabbing guys with Quen up, or whoring Heliotrope to just pretend it was Jet Li's The One.

Yeah I just finished Witcher 1 again, my "final playthrough" of Witcher 1 setting up my game for Witcher 3.

I have to agree with this, Witcher 1 felt a lot bigger to me, it's a great world building game that to someone who hasn't read the books, allows you to really understand who the Witchers are and how they operate. Honestly the one thing I want Witcher 3 to do differently from #2 is kind of go back to the original game's ability to get a lot of levels and get multiple specializations.

It felt odd to me in Witcher 2 that you have to talent up the swordsmanship tree, or the magic tree, or the alchemy tree. I feel like Geralt should have good knowledge of magic, alchemy, and swordplay already and specialization should just refine your playstyle rather than be the focus of it. You can do exactly this in Witcher 1 (more or less) where the generous leveling system allows you to spend a ton of points in everything, but you can't really do it in 2. You have to go down one tree if you want to get the most out of it.

I guess another thing I like Witcher 1 more than 2 was how at the max levels of your swords tree the combat animations for your attacks look incredible.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jun 23, 2013

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Qwo posted:

The game is one long, unvaried fetch quest, do don't stick along longer than you have to, unless it's for the lovely dice sidequests.

To be honest, I found TW1 a far more engaging experience in a lot of ways than TW2. Besides the rather boring slog through the first village, once you get to Vizima the game improves a lot. I found the combat to be fairly enjoyable, at least it looked vaguely cool, and was far more unique in terms of player combat animations than what other 3rd person RPGs were doing at the time.

I suppose I always tend to enjoy games where you stay at a central hub (Vizima) for most of the game, and do little quests around this hub. I far prefer that to the "Let's go to a new exciting location every act!!" thing which happens in TW2, which just results in the barely complete/horribly designed Loc Muinne act at the end. The pacing on a lot of the dialogue you had with Dandelion/Zoltan/Shani/Triss through the course of the game was pretty good as well, and I felt far more attached to those characters in TW1 than in TW2.

What I'm saying is, TW1 is a pretty fantastic game, even if it is rather dated.

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

I kind of got fed up with the combat in the first game, because enemy attacks will follow through even if you knock them out of their animations. You basically can't avoid taking damage, no matter how skillfully you play. The combat rebalance mod can't address this, unfortunately.

dud root
Mar 30, 2008
I thought that was the point of FCR for witcher 1? That rolling out of the way would actually dodge the attack.

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

Under the "known bugs" section of the FCR manual, it says the following:

quote:

Sometimes while attacking an opponent, he can damage us without the attack animation. This is not a bug, only the game mechanics. In fact the opponents are carrying out an attack, but since Geralt's animations have priority, Geralt's animations cancel the opponent's attack animations.

And I've experienced it first-hand. I actually died during the tutorial, since I wasn't keeping an eye on my health and just assumed that I wasn't getting hit since, well, it didn't look like I was getting hit.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

That's old school rpg combat for you.

The game's engine was based on the Aurora engine from Neverwinter Nights. So it was more like a D&D game (dice rolls) than an action rpg like Witcher 2 or Dark Souls (animation priority or whatever).

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
^^

Exactly, I guess when you're used to playing IE engine games, or games based on D&D mechanics, it doesn't seem frustrating at all to encounter enemies that hit you without actually having an attack animation trigger.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
Playing through both of the Witcher games for the first time, do I want the combat rebalance mods or just vanilla?

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


tofes posted:

Playing through both of the Witcher games for the first time, do I want the combat rebalance mods or just vanilla?

I think they're solid either way, and there have been some reported problems with 2's rebalanced mod that need ironing out. 2 especially is fine as is.

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

Bloody Pancreas posted:

If I were to do this, would there be anything on the side that I should do, like crafting/potion making/minigames? I'm a big side-quest junkie and the thought of going gung-ho through the game only to find I've been missing sidequests because I skimped on boring, unnecessary stuff could kill it for me.

Do monster hunting quests from royal huntsman, you need to kill especially strong monsters(1-2 per chapter) and if you do all 10 get a sword you can carry into witcher 2. Plus you get to walk around with ugly monster head handing from your belt before turning in your trophy.

Spite
Jul 27, 2001

Small chance of that...

SpRahl posted:

Also its much more awesome to get into a game of dice poker with an evil spirit for Alvins life if you choose Triss vs whatever I cant remember happens with Shani.

Aslo Yennife has a way better and more realistic chance of being a boss than Triss in the next game.

I'm not sure if she's going to be more dangerous if she has her memories back or not. If she doesn't you have a super powerful sorceress you have to convince to be on your side. If she does she's definitely going to want to set both Geralt and Triss on fire. It's going to be awesome, I hope they handle it well.

And I'm half wondering if they'll pull a Metal Gear Solid 2 and have you play as Ciri for most of the game. It would fit the books - they really are more about her.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
What was wrong with Act 1 of the first game? All the walking? Because besides that I loved it. The atmosphere of that corrupt village was awesome.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.

The Sharmat posted:

What was wrong with Act 1 of the first game? All the walking? Because besides that I loved it. The atmosphere of that corrupt village was awesome.

All the walking was my primary issue with the first game. I'm one of those few who didn't mind the combat though.

Looking at my old screenshots, I was reminded of this happening:



I don't know what the odds of both rolling this at the same time on the first throw is but I don't think it's very high. Dice poker :allears:

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Dice Poker is the best mini-game.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
So did anyone else have their Raven Armor get weaker with FCR in The Witcher 2. It's dropped to 5 armor and the swords that imported are unchanged.

Tony_Montana
Apr 1, 2010

Spite posted:

I'm not sure if she's going to be more dangerous if she has her memories back or not. If she doesn't you have a super powerful sorceress you have to convince to be on your side. If she does she's definitely going to want to set both Geralt and Triss on fire. It's going to be awesome, I hope they handle it well.

And I'm half wondering if they'll pull a Metal Gear Solid 2 and have you play as Ciri for most of the game. It would fit the books - they really are more about her.

She loves Geralt. In the last book, after they met near the end, she was aware that Geralt had slept with other women (Fringilla Vigo), but Geralt brushed it off saying that all the time he only thought of her anyway. And that was it.

Also is there another link to download the mod?, the official one doesn't work for me.

Edit: nvm, I found this http://wpc.4d7d.edgecastcdn.net/004D7D/files/mods/TW2_FCR.zip

Tony_Montana fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jun 23, 2013

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Tony_Montana posted:

She loves Geralt. In the last book, after they met near the end, she was aware that Geralt had slept with other women (Fringilla Vigo), but Geralt brushed it off saying that all the time he only thought of her anyway. And that was it.

Well it's not like Yennefer hasn't had other men in the mean time.

Spite
Jul 27, 2001

Small chance of that...

Tony_Montana posted:

She loves Geralt. In the last book, after they met near the end, she was aware that Geralt had slept with other women (Fringilla Vigo), but Geralt brushed it off saying that all the time he only thought of her anyway. And that was it.

Also is there another link to download the mod?, the official one doesn't work for me.

Edit: nvm, I found this http://wpc.4d7d.edgecastcdn.net/004D7D/files/mods/TW2_FCR.zip

Yes, but those other women weren't one of her best friends. And said friend has been sleeping with the dude she's been in love with forever even though she knows Geralt loved Yennifer before. Though I think that by the end of the Witcher 2 Geralt realizes he was in love with Yennifer but that's never made clear.

Something that's not totally clear to me (and The Sharmat mentioned this a while back) is what Triss thinks is going to happen once Geralt gets his memory back and reunites with Yennifer. Is she just hoping to have a couple years with Geralt to herself? Hoping maybe Geralt decides to stay? Or that he'll stay with both?

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I got the impression that she was well aware of the possible consequences and was just going to suck it up and take her chances. Yennefer was her friend, after all.

But yeah, it is a bit different than Geralt and Yennefer's various other dalliances, which were quite casual I think. Triss has been holding a torch for Geralt for a long time and Yennefer was already aware of that, I believe. And that was before she got unrivaled access to him for like two years.

Madrox
Jan 31, 2001

Does whatever
a multiple can.
Has there been any word on the patch for the new rebalance mod? I've been wanting to start a new playthrough, but I've been waiting on that. Upgraded my graphics card recently, so I'm also looking forward to playing through with the graphics settings cranked up this time, heh.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

Madrox posted:

Has there been any word on the patch for the new rebalance mod? I've been wanting to start a new playthrough, but I've been waiting on that. Upgraded my graphics card recently, so I'm also looking forward to playing through with the graphics settings cranked up this time, heh.

Supposedly coming out this week now.
I'm just going by this thread on the official forum.
http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/topic/35541-news-full-combat-rebalance-mod-for-the-witcher-2-is-out/page__st__260

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

havenwaters posted:

So did anyone else have their Raven Armor get weaker with FCR in The Witcher 2. It's dropped to 5 armor and the swords that imported are unchanged.

Mine started out stronger than that but suddenly I loaded a save and the Raven Armor is down to 5. The swords are still stronger than normal though.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.
Anyone else getting a bug with that combat mod that makes your experience bar always be full? Also, all of the text that should say parry says parade.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

PureRok posted:

Anyone else getting a bug with that combat mod that makes your experience bar always be full?

I'm not sure that's a bug. This mod makes it so you only get experience from quests instead of kills. Maybe they did that to make sure you realized farming endregas wouldn't make you level up any faster.

Leb
Jan 15, 2004


Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.
And now for the latest entry in our series, "Better know a monstrum", we present "Before and After: Has a witcher come to visit?"

Before:



After:



You decide.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
Story of Geralt's life in two pictures. Nice.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Anyone else think Geralt's body proportions look kind of weird in Witcher 3? I can't tell if it's just the armour or what.

Cirofren
Jun 13, 2005


Pillbug

Hakkesshu posted:

Anyone else think Geralt's body proportions look kind of weird in Witcher 3? I can't tell if it's just the armour or what.

He got some slim fit armour to better show off his hot inverted triangle torso and tight buns. Looks about right compared to the shots of him half-naked from TW2.

dud root
Mar 30, 2008
Yeah in those 2 pictures his head is too small, and his arms/torso are too big compared to the legs. Also his head in the 2nd pic is in the wrong place :cry:

Captain Scandinaiva
Mar 29, 2010



Hakkesshu posted:

Anyone else think Geralt's body proportions look kind of weird in Witcher 3? I can't tell if it's just the armour or what.

My first thought exactly. In the first picture his arse is about twice the size of his head and his shoulders are five times his arse.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I think the real problem is he's wearing a chain hauberk and it's tight and formfitting instead of a loose draping thing. Geralt changed a lot between early development of Witcher 2 and the final product though, so I'm not worried.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Roobanguy posted:

gently caress dice poker. gently caress it hard.

Dice was great in Witcher 1. No idea how they hosed it up so bad for 2.

FutonForensic
Nov 11, 2012

I'm having a real rough time with the beginning of Act 2. There's a mage character I'm supposed to help escort along a path, but he keeps freezing in place, complete with his arms out in a default pose. I can't get him to move, forcing me to reload a save. This has happened about 5-6 times now and every time I research the problem I just end up spoiling more of the plot for myself. Has anyone encountered this issue?

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Leb
Jan 15, 2004


Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.

The Sharmat posted:

I think the real problem is he's wearing a chain hauberk and it's tight and formfitting instead of a loose draping thing. Geralt changed a lot between early development of Witcher 2 and the final product though, so I'm not worried.

All this talk of his armor and no one mention his chiseled buttocks. For shame.

quote:

Dice was great in Witcher 1. No idea how they hosed it up so bad for 2.

From the world's best minigame to something that you have to slog through some ~10 times to advance some quests. Geralt should be furious.

quote:

I'm having a real rough time with the beginning of Act 2. There's a mage character I'm supposed to help escort along a path, but he keeps freezing in place, complete with his arms out in a default pose. I can't get him to move, forcing me to reload a save. This has happened about 5-6 times now and every time I research the problem I just end up spoiling more of the plot for myself. Has anyone encountered this issue?

Are you running FCR2? Cause that sounds a lot like a known issue with that mod.

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