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Math You posted:Is this for 2014 or has there been one and just not in Canada? Now you are going to make me really happy and tell me there is a speed version.. Right? It's not like the new Mazda 6 wagon is a real barnstormer or anything. You're basically describing a previous gen Legacy GT wagon - decent looks, fun to drive with strong aftermarket, 250 hp with room for mods, optional stick - and unfortunately nobody bought them.
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Cream_Filling posted:It's not like the new Mazda 6 wagon is a real barnstormer or anything. You're basically describing a previous gen Legacy GT wagon - decent looks, fun to drive with strong aftermarket, 250 hp with room for mods, optional stick - and unfortunately nobody bought them. IMO Mazda has an excuse to not sell a 6 wagon in the States - wagons don't sell well, and Mazda is happy with its little niche here. Bigger companies either need a wagon or a good excuse (Ford has neither) but Mazda would lose too much money.
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Cream_Filling posted:Diesel cars cost more to make due to emissions equipment and stronger engines. Diesel fuel is also more expensive per gallon than gas in the US. The only reason diesels are so popular in Europe is due to tax incentives and the nature of their oil imports/industry. But the difference between the lowest gas and diesel options in the uk is 1500 gbp. You can get a 73.5 USMPG diesel golf for less than a mid range focus.
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Powershift posted:But the difference between the lowest gas and diesel options in the uk is 1500 gbp. You can get a 73.5 USMPG diesel golf for less than a mid range focus.  Those numbers work out, yes that's actually seventy-three miles per red-blooded gun-totin pickup drivin Merican gallon.  the gently caress
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Friar Zucchini posted:Are you sure those numbers work out? UK MPG basically does not compute with US MPG, lemme che And it's range is 1500km (932 miles) 
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Jun 27, 2013 09:22
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It still won't sell because diesel.
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Russian Bear posted:It still won't sell because diesel. "Diseasel" 
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Jun 27, 2013 13:22
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Friar Zucchini posted:Are you sure those numbers work out? UK MPG basically does not compute with US MPG, lemme che Except their test cycles are significantly different and are always way higher than the EPA system, so it's still not a great direct comparison. Especially since the EU cycle tends to overestimate efficiency for diesel engines, while the EPA cycle tends to disadvantage them.
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Jun 27, 2013 14:06
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Russian Bear posted:It still won't sell because diesel. Or like Australia, it won't sell much because it costs $4k more, diesel costs more at the pump, and diesel is a pain because there's usually only one pump per station that dispenses diesel that's usually the poo poo pump. Also servicing costs much much more and there's reports of the modern diesel cars saying they are crap when used for short journeys (particulate filters blocking). Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jun 27, 2013 |
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Jun 27, 2013 14:34
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Fo3 posted:Also servicing costs much much more and there's reports of the modern diesel cars saying they are crap when used for short journeys (particulate filters blocking). No car likes journeys that are too short to completely heat up the engine (oil temp, not coolant temp), it's just that diesels take much longer to fully warm up than gasoline cars do. In my previous car, which was a diesel, I could drive for like 5km before the coolant temperature even began to rise, on a moderately warm day. In my current petrol car the coolant is warm by the time I reach the first intersection.
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Jun 27, 2013 14:46
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The EU test cycle is poo poo. The saddest part is that it's not even useful for comparing cars to each other as you can't just say "add +20% across the board and it'll be correct". For example, the Polo Bluemotion is supposed to be about 8% more frugal with diesel than the regular TDI Polo. In "real life", most people have the opposite experience, since the BM is built for the test in such a way that it for example has gearing that doesn't fit real driving as well as the TDI, making it harder to achive the specified fuel consumpition than it is in the TDI. I'll quote myself from some time ago: Nidhg00670000 posted:And as for the EU cert fuel consumption process, it's because it simulates real life driving with (for example) blinding acceleration (0-70kph in 41 seconds) and then keeps it up with more real life driving (70-100kph in 35 sec). Yeah, that's real life driving for you.
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Fo3 posted:Or like Australia, it won't sell much because it costs $4k more, diesel costs more at the pump, and diesel is a pain because there's usually only one pump per station that dispenses diesel that's usually the poo poo pump. Also servicing costs much much more and there's reports of the modern diesel cars saying they are crap when used for short journeys (particulate filters blocking). And there's some cock leaving his dick extension idling at the only diesel pump in the joint while he takes his sweet time paying inside. And the usual "You know that's diesel, right?" question from gas station attendants and other drivers. But, God I miss the turbodiesel rattle and whine.
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Jun 27, 2013 14:56
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Cream_Filling posted:Diesel fuel is also more expensive per gallon than gas in the US. This varies. When I first got my TDI, diesel was a little more expensive than 91 octane, then it dropped and hovered around the same price. Lately it's been much lower: this morning when I filled up diesel was 2 cents a gallon cheaper than 87.
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Ford just reintroduced the Lightning! Kind of. http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/27/2014-ford-f-150-tremor-adds-some-sport-to-shake-things-up/#aol-comments quote:While Ford calls the Tremor a "performance truck," the new pickup doesn't play on the same level as the SVT Raptor does on dirt, or even the long-gone SVT Lightning did on pavement. Think of it as a parts bin sport truck that probably does a better job looking the part than acting it. The Tremor utilizes the same twin-turbo, 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 available across the F-150 lineup, producing 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque, but matches it with a 4.10 rear axle – the shortest final drive ratio you can get in an F-150 – for the strongest possible acceleration. A simple tune would probably put it nicely over 400hp too.
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Jun 27, 2013 21:27
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It's making slightly more HP (5) than the pre-2001 Lighting was. I wonder how well the 4WD system can take hard launches. Hmmm...
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Jun 27, 2013 21:44
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SouthLAnd posted:Ford just reintroduced the Lightning! Honestly, the Tremor looks like it's going for more of a first-gen Lightning vibe than the more famous 2nd-gen version.
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Jun 27, 2013 22:10
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Now that's a nice looking truck.
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Jun 27, 2013 22:15
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Pretty truck, bad name. When I hear 'tremor' I think either hand tremors or 90's movie with Kevin Bacon. However, if we clone Kevin Bacon and include him as the passenger in every Tremor sold, I would be OK with that.
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Devyl posted:Pretty truck, bad name. When I hear 'tremor' I think either hand tremors or 90's movie with Kevin Bacon. However, if we clone Kevin Bacon and include him as the passenger in every Tremor sold, I would be OK with that. When I hear "truck" and "tremors" I think of this:   That thing was pretty awesome.
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Devyl posted:Pretty truck, bad name. When I hear 'tremor' I think either hand tremors or 90's movie with Kevin Bacon. However, if we clone Kevin Bacon and include him as the passenger in every Tremor sold, I would be OK with that. You've basically just described the current ad campaign for E+E mobile (T-Mobile+Orange 4G) in the UK and let me tell you now, no, you definitely don't want that.
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Q_res posted:Honestly, the Tremor looks like it's going for more of a first-gen Lightning vibe than the more famous 2nd-gen version. Yeah, the stock motor and that it has straight sides instead of step sides makes me think of the first-gen.
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Aside from the engine, it looks like a parts bin trim package. But who cares? It's an ecoboost short bed, regular cab f-150 with a 4.10. The thing is going to haul balls.
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SouthLAnd posted:Ford just reintroduced the Lightning! Kind of. Dreams do come true  Up until now, you couldn't get the ecoboost reg cab without an 8 foot box, and there was no way to get a flow through console in the reg cab. The 4x4 option is a huge bonus too. As long as it's not something stupid like 50 grand, this will hopefully be my next truck. It should be around 30 in 2wd, 34 in 4x4 at the most, but we'll see. Still this is so so awesome.   I'm betting in stock 2wd trim, bone stock it'll run 5.5 to 60 and a 14 second quarter mile, then there's always the option to chip it to 435hp.
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What is the definition of flow through? I'm thinking HVAC system but I've never heard that term relating to dashes before.
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Great idea, stupid name. What the hell is wrong with bringing back the Lightning name? As a former Lightning owner I take offense.
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:What is the definition of flow through? I'm thinking HVAC system but I've never heard that term relating to dashes before. He means bucket seats with center-based shifter. In other models, you get a bench seat with a column shifter. And a $50,000 price tag would be ridiculous. That's Raptor territory.
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Rhyno posted:Great idea, stupid name. What the hell is wrong with bringing back the Lightning name? As a former Lightning owner I take offense. Clearly they're waiting to make an even more awesome F150 and name it the Lightning. This is just a teaser.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Clearly they're waiting to make an even more awesome F150 and name it the Lightning. This is just a teaser. They fuckin' better. They brought back the SHO, the Lightning deserves the same treatment.
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Rhyno posted:They fuckin' better. They brought back the SHO, the Lightning deserves the same treatment. Lower it, add proper suspension, keep the 4.10's and drop in the supercharged 5.8 out of the Cobra Mustang. Done.
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Devyl posted:Lower it, add proper suspension, keep the 4.10's and drop in the supercharged 5.8 out of the Cobra Mustang. Done. Works for me. Only offer it in 4 colors, two of which are black and make the huge side graphics stock, not an option.
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Rhyno posted:Great idea, stupid name. What the hell is wrong with bringing back the Lightning name? As a former Lightning owner I take offense. Also Chevy fans will just call it the TryMore
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Snowdens Secret posted:Also Chevy fans will just call it the TryMore Yeah but what does GM have to offer in a performance truck right now?
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The Holden Ute SS-V  It takes on the 'Ring. I want it in the US so bad right now. Devyl fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jun 28, 2013 |
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Devyl posted:The Holden Ute SS-V What's really amazing is it looks like an auto? Holden autos tend to be pretty terrible?
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Devyl posted:The Holden Ute SS-V It's not a truck. It's a car with a short bed.
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tobu posted:What's really amazing is it looks like an auto? Holden autos tend to be pretty terrible? He's either using a manual or kicking the firewall.
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It's a manual. He just shifts really fast. If the Ute interests you as much as it does me & my inner redneck, the first video in the series is worth a watch. Link
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Lilleput posted:He's either using a manual or kicking the firewall. No, it's a auto. There's no clutch pedal and that's the centre console of the auto. He's using "manual" mode. He also taps back for fifth when in the manual it's up and across to the driver. quote:Holden autos tend to be pretty terrible? Eh, not really - not the 6 speed auto at least. They are good enough. In a ute TBH I doubt a manual will be much quicker - those things are hairy enough to hustle at the best of times. Probably taking the edge off the Ute would make for a car that isnt quite as ready to blow your head off and one the driver can punt harder.
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Cat Terrist posted:Eh, not really - not the 6 speed auto at least. They are good enough. Ahh, I've never used one of the six speeds. The last thing I drove was SS VZ with a four speed and I never got a chance to get used to when it kicks down and what have you.
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Well yeah, those 4 speeds are loving awful. They barely made them any better from the bloody 94 Caprice I've got.
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