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Alchenar posted:Victoria 2. The game of the Forever War. France, Prussia and the Ottoman Empire are all 100% occupied. But shall the crisis end? No, because you can't make separate peace in crisis wars and warscore cannot ever move past 25% either way because of achieved occupations on both sides and the fact that completely occupying a country only gets you 33% warscore. Does war exhaustion of a target nation count towards victory? It probably should. If a nation has 100% war exhaustion or whatever it ought to move towards 100% victory steadily.
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Fintilgin posted:Does war exhaustion of a target nation count towards victory? It probably should. If a nation has 100% war exhaustion or whatever it ought to move towards 100% victory steadily. War ended with a cut down to size on Austria by the UK (ironically the two great powers untouched by occupation). A few months later all of Europe explodes in revolution. I'm not really sure what's going on (a consistent problem) but I think that nations should exit wars when for all practical purposes they've been knocked out.
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So... does anyone have actual thoughts about the actual game they're actually going to stream tonight? Roguelike sci-fi top-down shooter, Win/Mac/Linux, $13. I'd never heard of it but sounds like this is an expanded edition of something that already exists (says owners will be upgraded to this new version). Could be fine, just underwhelming if we were expecting a new grand strategy IP. I see why the thread finds dinosaur politics more engaging.
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A Violence Gang posted:So... does anyone have actual thoughts about the actual game they're actually going to stream tonight? It doesn't look at all interesting to me, so I'll go back to thinking about Dinosaur Universalis.
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A Violence Gang posted:So... does anyone have actual thoughts about the actual game they're actually going to stream tonight? I tried out the demo way back when, and it basically feels like a really cool mix of Dead Space, Resident Evil, roguelikes, and Quake. Dead Space for the oppressive atmosphere and general combat, RE for the inventory management and surprisingly-deep weapon crafting/modification, roguelikes for the randomization, and Quake for the low-fi visual artstyle. The only problem I found with it is that the visuals (not to everyone's taste, mind you) can get pretty headache-inducing. It looks cool, but even just firing your weapon causes some crazy distortion, and sustained play really takes a toll on my eyes.
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A Violence Gang posted:So... does anyone have actual thoughts about the actual game they're actually going to stream tonight? There was a thread about it here a while back, not sure if it's still in the live forums. EDIT Here it is: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3519762
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A Violence Gang posted:So... does anyone have actual thoughts about the actual game they're actually going to stream tonight? Basically what toasterwarrior said; it was a really cool idea, and even the execution wasn't too bad, but it was so dizzying to play the game that I never even played through the whole demo. If what they just announced fixes it or adds more options so I can make it easier to look at then I'd say I'm interested, but if it's just more levels/enemies/whatever, sadly I'm unable to play it.
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Kavak posted:Yeah, that thought occurred to me later- they know they've got a stinker on their hands and they're hoping they can pander it into profitability. I have to suspect that EVW is only going to be $20. Granted, I only just got March of the Eagles in the sale last week because I'm kind of cheap ($5 is a great deal for MOTE).
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Are they loving serious with this we are the world idea? So, it has a ugly, lovely UI. A pre TFH HoI III combat system. And this. All i ask is, how moddable will it be?
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Why did you guys think they would announce a big title out of the blue? They usually do code names and let us guess for about a week.
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BillBear posted:Why did you guys think they would announce a big title out of the blue? They usually do code names and let us guess for about a week. They did a code name and let us guess for 24 hours, but no, personally I wasn't expecting a 'real' Paradox game. I'd be quite surprised if the next internal Paradox project was announced until a couple months after EUIV is out.
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So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it?
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Baloogan posted:So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it? Making pretty borders in higher resolutions isn't enough 
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There's been thirty-something developer diaries, I recommend reading all the non-country-specific ones first so you know all the game system changes: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?629770-Europa-Universalis-IV-Development-Diaries-Archive
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Making pretty borders in higher resolutions isn't enough
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Baloogan posted:So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it? If you liked EU III, from what i can tell everything is pretty much vastly improved. Plus they put some effort into online and Asia!
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I've played HoI2 and AoD a lot, and was really excited about HoI3 years ago, but never pulled the trigger. I'm getting back into playing after a long hiatus and seeing really contradictory information on their forums. Am I correct in assuming that picking up the entire package for $5 when it's on sale is still a mistake?
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$5 for hoi3 is worth it, especially if TFH is included.
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Jesus gently caress, someone earlier hit upon the best game idea ever without realising it. Vicky2 style economy stuff. Starting just after WW2. Space race game.
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Even at $5 HoI3 isn't worth it. I gave it and all the expansions another shot a couple weeks ago and it is still utterly devoid of fun, especially compared to Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour.
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Jesus gently caress, someone earlier hit upon the best game idea ever without realising it. Scientists and Engineers in The Papal States have discovered Space Capsule Re-entry Parachutes. We pray they use this discovery for good.
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Jesus gently caress, someone earlier hit upon the best game idea ever without realising it. Your Capitalists have built a Glass Factory on the Moon.
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*Insert "cannot colonize moon because life rating" joke*
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PBJ posted:*Insert "cannot colonize moon because life rating" joke* You've gotta research laser guns first.
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Pakled posted:You've gotta research laser guns first. "Name one time in history where the Moon wasn't conquered by like three white guys with Rovers."
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Teleglitch looks really atmospheric, at least. Seems like it's worth a buy when it hits the eventual sale.Baloogan posted:So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it? Dedicated servers and hot-join MP. We need to get a 24/7 Paradox MegaThread server going as soon as this game comes out! JDM3 posted:I've played HoI2 and AoD a lot, and was really excited about HoI3 years ago, but never pulled the trigger. I'm getting back into playing after a long hiatus and seeing really contradictory information on their forums. If you've never played Darkest Hour yet, I suggest you try that first/as well, unless you're really tired of the Europa engine.
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JDM3 posted:I've played HoI2 and AoD a lot, and was really excited about HoI3 years ago, but never pulled the trigger. I'm getting back into playing after a long hiatus and seeing really contradictory information on their forums. If you check my posts in this thread then you'll see I don't have very high opinions of HoI3. I think the best that can be said for it is that it's a collection of very interesting concepts and mechanisms that unfortunately fail to come together to make an actual game. There's a diplomacy system where countries will move towards and away from factions depending on influence and how threatened they feel but it doesn't matter because the war is starting in 2.5 years and there isn't going to be any meaningful drift. There's a wonderfully complex combat system that's utterly negated by the fact that you can force any army to sit stationary for 72 hours with a one hour attack by a division so all wars turn into WW1 style slugfests at the strategic level. There's a technology system where you can focus your research into certain equipment on your tanks, infantry and planes but the actual results are so far removed and unpredictable that you'll just research everything. And if you are a major power then you can. There's an intelligence system that... exists. Trade is a straight up improvement on HoI2 in that you actually have to ship goods on-map and those convoys can be attacked, but the game doesn't quite get the resource balance of the world right in the sense that the UK is ever actually threatened by the battle of the Atlantic, or that a German player is particularly aware of the need to keep the Romanian oilfields safe. For $5 you probably won't regret it if you buy it more out of curiosity than expecting fun.
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Baloogan posted:So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it? Steamworks multiplayer. And some other stuff.
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Baloogan posted:So what is in EU4? Why should I buy it?
The interface also looks much more clean and straightforward in the screen shots we've seen. I forget from the dev diaries -- has much been said about the mechanics of the HRE or Papacy or such supranational concerns?
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A Violence Gang posted:The interface also looks much more clean and straightforward in the screen shots we've seen. I forget from the dev diaries -- has much been said about the mechanics of the HRE or Papacy or such supranational concerns? The HRE mechanics are covered in this Austria preview from a few months back. The HRE looks like it'll act mostly like in HtTT onwards, but imperial authority slowly increases if there is internal peace, and slowly decreases if there are less than 7 electors. The Emperor also gets a special CB to revoke an electorship. You will get to see how each member of the diet will vote before enacting an Imperial reform. The Papacy mechanics were covered in this brief Religion overview we were given early in development. The Curia's cardinals can't be bribed to support your nation, but there are 5 cardinals outside of it that may be promoted into the Curia which you can spend influence on. Papal controllers get an extra diplomat and a lot of prestige. MOTE-style Coalitions are going to be in the game as well. A coalition is a temporary grand alliance against a single enemy. At the game's start, only the Papal Controller has access to coalitions as a diplomatic option, but they are later unlocked for everyone through improving diplomatic technology. I'm guessing that it'll be around either the Napoleonic war era or the 30 Year's War, but that's just me.
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If Pdox ever made a game with HoI3's diplomacy and spies, V2's politics and SoI system and with a map as pretty as EUIV I'd never play anything ever again  I really do love HoI3, but sadly I could never understand the combat and the game is too structured towards one big war that it could never be true love  Edit: WHY COULDN'T EvW BE THAT?  And vvvv dear god, I don't understand this at all. Why does every grand strategy armchair politician superfan look the same and why are they all so willing to put their image in a game. The Narrator fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jun 28, 2013 |
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Hey guys, it's really hard to figure out who the leader of the DDR's Communist Party was in the 1970s, so... All hail Chairman Apfeldornen!
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Gorgo Primus posted:Hey guys, it's really hard to figure out who the leader of the DDR's Communist Party was in the 1970s, so... I bet that's not even the right hat 
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Gorgo Primus posted:Hey guys, it's really hard to figure out who the leader of the DDR's Communist Party was in the 1970s, so... 
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Ofaloaf posted:Von Apfeldornen, the Communist. e; not the best example I guess what with him being executed and also renouncing his name 
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