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They are certainly better than the default or the 1600x900 screens.
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God drat, the Razer Blade 14 looks amazing. It's a shame about the lovely TN screen
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Spoiled posted:Woah, so you can replace the battery now? Insane. Can you upgrade RAM too? That makes it sound kind of bearable, actually, outside of the 30$ adapters. Yeah, replacing the battery is something like 12 screws in the new MBA. The RAM however is still soldered, so what you order is what you're stuck with. The power supply for it is quite light, lighter than for most notebooks, in addition to having lighter cables (and the maglock connector is seriously one of the best things). The adapters I think are typically quite small (I don't have any so I cannot comment exactly, but the ones I've seen are small and light). The SSD will eventually be upgradable when new M.2 standard SSDs become available to consumers.
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# ? Jun 28, 2013 20:41 |
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Screwed-in batteries are weird to me. I popped the battery out of my Latitude D820 when it died for good (about eight months after I bought it, hahaha, Dell batteries were not too great), and kept the laptop on AC power for the rest of its lifespan. Reduced weight, too! Though the weight was no longer evenly distributed, which bugged me.
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# ? Jun 28, 2013 22:19 |
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My mom is in the market for a new laptop; she mainly just uses it for web browsing/quickbooks for her business. The only requirement is that it have 13" or bigger screen as she never uses an external monitor/anything smaller she has trouble reading, looking for something $800 or under. I'm really only familiar with Lenovo's offerings, is there anything else she should be looking at?
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# ? Jun 28, 2013 23:35 |
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Hadlock posted:i5 3320 and above - same general performance, but with vt-D suport for 50-100% faster VM speeds VT-x will speed up normal VMs, but VT-d is only useful in certain circumstances. VT-d specifically refers to an IOMMU, which lets you pass through a PCI device such as a RAID card or network adapter to the guest. Unless you're doing PCI passthrough, VT-d does nothing to speed up the VM. As far as I can tell, all mobile i5 processors support VT-x.
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First off, I know this is the wrong thread (maybe someone could direct me to the right thread because I sure as hell can't find it). I'm kind of interested in getting a touchpad so I can surf the web and take notes on it for school. I saw some people using iPads, HP and Lenovo, but I really don't know which ones are good/best. I also don't know the price ranges on these things and how much I should be paying, aka what are competitive prices. Any help is appreciated.
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Dangerous Mind posted:First off, I know this is the wrong thread (maybe someone could direct me to the right thread because I sure as hell can't find it).
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:You mean you want someone to recommend you a tablet? Ahh OK thank you, I was searching for "touchpad" in the search bar.
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Question I should know the answer to, but don't. They're sending me a new x230 because the rep claimed mSATA card install is not a user-doable operation and they forgot to include my wireless card in my Christmas order. This was apparently the only way to resolve that situation, and I had the damage replacement warranty anyway. Can I pop my hard drive out of the old one and into the new one? Or do I have a lower chance of tiny errors down the line if I do a new install on the new computer? I'm not totally clear on the relationship between hardware and software. They say the hardware config is identical, but with six months difference, who knows?
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 05:23 |
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So the Dell XPS 12 comes highly recommended here? I'm gonna be getting an additional 17% discount through Dell thanks to my job in two weeks, and I'd been toying with the idea of getting something. For years now I've really liked the idea of having a psuedo tablet/laptop that runs Windows. Was happy to see that Microsoft felt the same way and came out with Win8. (Was sorry to see that they force poo poo like the 'Modern' Start menu on ALL users.) I have an Acer W500 that is running Windows 8.1 right now, but it's slow and not fully compatible with Win8. (The smaller resolution prevents use of things like the window split feature, and the accelerometer only works when you're using an old video driver from last year.) The AMD APU has nice graphics acceleration, the 1GHz CPU is just not enough. I had fallen in love with the Surface Pro when it was first announced, but it looks like the XPS 12 will work best for me, especially thanks to the deal I can potentially get on it.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 06:40 |
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Hey guys I am selling my current 11.6" because it's got some bullshit but I really like that size, 11-13 inches. I also really really want good battery life. Like, 7 hours or more working basically non-intensive poo poo. I want it snappy doing excel/word processing but I will never use like photoshop on it or use it for gaming. How do I go about evaluating battery life when I'm shopping for a laptop? Is there anything you'd recommend for this purpose in the 300-500 dollar range?
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 07:01 |
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Now I'm looking at the MSI GT Series GT70 2OC-065US. Is this a good laptop? I was looking at the lenovo y500 but I'm put off by the underwhelming graphics and processor. code:
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 07:02 |
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agarjogger posted:Can I pop my hard drive out of the old one and into the new one? Or do I have a lower chance of tiny errors down the line if I do a new install on the new computer? I'm not totally clear on the relationship between hardware and software. They say the hardware config is identical, but with six months difference, who knows?
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NeoSeeker posted:Now I'm looking at the MSI GT Series GT70 2OC-065US. Is this a good laptop? I was looking at the lenovo y500 but I'm put off by the underwhelming graphics and processor. Ok, first you need to understand that any laptop you buy today for $1500 will not play AAA games in two years. New consoles are just coming out, so software is going to take a great leap forward. The only reason games are playable on anything but the very best mobile GPUs today is the fact that 8-year-old tech in the 360 and the PS3 was holding them back. Take a look at benchmarks for Crysis 3, destroyer of texture units, to get a good picture of what I mean. Next: That is a 17.3" laptop. If you ignore every other word I say, do not get a 17.3" laptop for school. They're loving massive and unwieldy. In fact, having very recently been in your position, I'd recommend you forgo serious gaming entirely and get a 13" Macbook Air, that's what I'd do in a heartbeat. Next, as I'm guessing you've seen, you won't find a laptop for $1500 that has an SSD as the primary storage option. On top of that, if you hate me and everything i say, Anandtech universally panned another version of that laptop. tl;dr my advice to you is to seriously reconsider what you want in a notebook for college and get either a 13" MBA or an ultrabook and just game less. More E/N-esque, I'd also say that you'll have plenty of college poo poo that's a lot more fun than games to do anyway. If you're not dissuaded, at the very least avoid that shitpile and get an Asus G55 or whatever their 15.6" jet-engine exhaust thing is these days.
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InstantInfidel posted:Next: That is a 17.3" laptop. If you ignore every other word I say, do not get a 17.3" laptop for school. They're loving massive and unwieldy. This, a thousand times. Unless you just want something to watch netflix on from across the room and are 100% sure it will never leave your desk/dorm room. 7-10" tablet or a 13" laptop is what you want for taking to class for notes. Dragging your 17" gaming laptop with lights every day to class will not win you any points with your classmates of prof.
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NeoSeeker posted:Now I'm looking at the MSI GT Series GT70 2OC-065US. Is this a good laptop? I was looking at the lenovo y500 but I'm put off by the underwhelming graphics and processor. This is not a good laptop; it's huge, heavy, you can't put it on your lap without giving yourself horrible burns, and it has horrible battery life. Don't get a 17" screen, and don't get a dedicated graphics coprocessor. That laptop is going to suck to use and you'll hate owning it unless you're using it as a desktop replacement, in which case you wasted a bunch of money because you should have just bought a desktop. Get something slim that's easy to use. The Haswell i7 can play the modern gen games just fine, just go with that.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 07:31 |
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So what is a laptop with basically the same specs that you'd recommend? Kinda want the GTX 770m and the 3ghz dual core (Quad core? All the better).
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NeoSeeker posted:So what is a laptop with basically the same specs that you'd recommend? Kinda want the GTX 770m and the 3ghz dual core. It's a 3.2GHz quad core and why do you want these things? What are you planning to do with this laptop?
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 07:59 |
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Game. But I don't want a desktop.
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NeoSeeker posted:So what is a laptop with basically the same specs that you'd recommend? Kinda want the GTX 770m and the 3ghz dual core (Quad core? All the better). I can't recommend a laptop with a GTX 770m because they're all bad laptops. They suffer from the following: A) Runs too hot to sit on your lap B) Too big and heavy to use as a laptop C) Way too expensive for what you're getting Why don't you want a desktop? If you're absolutely committed to not owning a desktop for some reason and don't mind spending a lot of extra money and receiving an immobile product for the privilege, then just go buy an Alienware.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 08:42 |
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syzygy86 posted:VT-x will speed up normal VMs, but VT-d is only useful in certain circumstances. VT-d specifically refers to an IOMMU, which lets you pass through a PCI device such as a RAID card or network adapter to the guest. Unless you're doing PCI passthrough, VT-d does nothing to speed up the VM. VT-d speeds up desktop responsiveness by somewhere between a factor of 1 and a factor of 10000, depending on circumstance and what OS / desktop you're using. Namely, with VT-d desktop responsiveness is almost always identical to native responsiveness, and without it, alt+tabbing and other actions have noticeable lag, as does certain other redraws. This depends on how bad the OS is -- Ubuntu with Unity is atrocious, and while XFCE or OpenBox might still exhibit some sluggishness, at least it doesn't hang for minutes sometimes, or take seconds to alt+tab. VT-x is necessary for running 64-bit VMs, and in 32-bit VMs it doesn't necessarily speed them up. shrughes fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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Hey! Those of us seeking larger laptops (for whatever reason!!) would also like advice once in a while. That said, another reason to not choose the GT70 series laptops is that the laptop uses one fan for cooling both the GPU and CPU. During AT's game benchmarks, the system overheated and responded by throttling the CPU, but this was the Dragon version with the 780m: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7076/msi-gt70-dragon-edition-notebook-review-haswell-and-the-gtx-780m. I've read about some people who repasted their laptops and had some success, and others not so much, so there seems to be a mixed bag of responses for this particular model. GentechPC offers a free "upgraded" thermal paste with their laptop sales (as well as 2% student discounts). The Asus G750 has a 765M for 1400. I haven't seen xoticpc/gentechpc offer any other configurations of that laptop yet. In any event. Try here for a more forgiving forum for advice, reviews, and comments on 17" laptops intended for gaming: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/ http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/ If and when you decide to get a 13" Air, rMBP, or a laptop/tablet convertible thinghy, come on back here, this thread is great for that. QuarkJets posted:If you're absolutely committed to not owning a desktop for some reason and don't mind spending a lot of extra money and receiving an immobile product for the privilege, then just go buy an Alienware. voltron fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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voltron posted:Fair enough, but the last I looked, a $1500 GT70 can cost around $2000 for an Alienware with similar specs. But as you say, the GT70 has cooling problems, and a lot of people seem to dislike the layout. Alienware is well-known for making good gaming laptops with good layouts and sufficient cooling. If you're already paying $1500 for a gaming laptop, then you may as well spend a few hundred more for a good one. If you're willing to upgrade the SSD and RAM yourself, then you can probably reduce the price difference even further
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What do y'all think about the Lenovo X230 tablet convertibles? The stats look good, but the screen being held on by a single plastic hinge scares the poo poo out of me.
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QuarkJets posted:But as you say, the GT70 has cooling problems, and a lot of people seem to dislike the layout. Alienware is well-known for making good gaming laptops with good layouts and sufficient cooling. If you're already paying $1500 for a gaming laptop, then you may as well spend a few hundred more for a good one. Sure, I could! But that guy has a limit of $1500 for himself. That's why I mentioned the G750. Apart from that, there's the millions of Sager/Clevo combinations where all he'd have to do is find a chassis he likes and mix and match the innards he wants/can afford.
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Ceyton posted:What do y'all think about the Lenovo X230 tablet convertibles? The stats look good, but the screen being held on by a single plastic hinge scares the poo poo out of me. That hinge has probably the best track record of any of the convertibles out there, since it's been around for so long. I have ones from previous versions that have been pretty badly abused and the hinge is still fine.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 13:58 |
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out of curiosity and as a benchmark for my own future purchases: I have a ~2 year old refurbed dell xps 15 with 2gb dedicated gpu GTX 435m and q740 i7 cpu with 9 cell battery (that sort of acts like a stand since it angles the laptop when on a flat surface). This thing has performed pretty admirably for me, never had an issue with not being able to run a game I wanted to play on it and the only downside is its a bit heavier and the battery life is not great thanks to the i7 no doubt. Would you guys have panned this sort of laptop? Also what would today's equivalent be, would it still need the battery sucking i7 to be equivalent in today's software market? EDIT: this dell xps15 was right before they ended up splitting the line between studio xps and alienware to be more distinct. Sidenote to the 17.3" laptop guy above: Why not recommend the 14 razer blade to that guy who wanted the 17.3 inch behemoth, I've heard positive things about it given what it is (storage options aside....128 gig ssd....yeesh) SoggyGravy fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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voltron posted:Hey! Those of us seeking larger laptops (for whatever reason!!) would also like advice once in a while. The advice is that unless you're travelling continuously, are in the armed services, or for whatever reason absolutely cannot have a computer in the same place for a period of more than a couple of days, get a desktop. Getting a gaming laptop is a waste of money compared to a cheap tablet and a vastly superior desktop, especially after the novelty of lugging around your "portable" computer wears off in a few weeks.
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If you're married to getting a gaming laptop then go here. There are quite a few of us here with Clevo/Sager laptops that will walk you through the pros/cons
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shrughes posted:VT-d speeds up desktop responsiveness by somewhere between a factor of 1 and a factor of 10000, depending on circumstance and what OS / desktop you're using. Namely, with VT-d desktop responsiveness is almost always identical to native responsiveness, and without it, alt+tabbing and other actions have noticeable lag, as does certain other redraws. This depends on how bad the OS is -- Ubuntu with Unity is atrocious, and while XFCE or OpenBox might still exhibit some sluggishness, at least it doesn't hang for minutes sometimes, or take seconds to alt+tab. Taking minutes to to alt-tab sounds like a different problem. Desktop responsiveness has nothing to do with VT-d (although you can passthrough a video card, its a non-trivial setup). I run VMs on machines without VT-d (and one without VT-x) without any issues like that in Ubuntu (although Unity is slow if you don't have 3D support). VT-d simply allows the VM to have direct access to a physical hardware resource and you have to configure the passthrough manually. It's normally used for RAID cards or network devices: http://academia.edu/833117/Performance_and_Scaling_Impacts_of_Hardware-accelerated_I_O_Virtualization
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voltron posted:Hey! Those of us seeking larger laptops (for whatever reason!!) would also like advice once in a while. I mean, I'd love to be able to recommend the Razer Blade series, as it's one of the only laptops that seems to combine performance, quality, and still keeps it under 7lbs, but it's also $2500 ($2000 for the 14" version), and no one seems to have any actual reviews of it yet.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 18:54 |
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17" laptops are mainly marketed at people who don't know what they want and figure "bigger is better!!!" despite the fact that a modern laptop class haswell i5 is roughly four times the power of a top of the line early 1990's supercomputer. The last great 17" class laptop was the 17" macbook pro in 2011. The remaining products in this class are junky poo poo sold to people who want a portable TV or man children who "need" a "gaming laptop" and will overlook any glaring flaws to get it.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:07 |
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Yeah, it's hard to recommend a gaming laptop for someone who needs to be able to take it to class and take notes or carry it anywhere ever. You could spend 1500 on a 10lb behemoth that runs hot and tethers you to plugs everwhere or, you could just as easily get like a $250 chrome book to take notes on and watch youtube videos and spend $1250 and build/buy a gaming desktop that will blow literally any gaming laptop on the market completely out of the water while being easier to upgrade later on down the road and still giving you the best of both worlds. If space is a concern, mini ITX systems these days can be tiny and dead silent. There are exceptions for people who for some reason need that much power coming with them everywhere they go, but for the most part you're just spending a lot more to get what is essentially a bad desktop and an even worse laptop.
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Anyone looking into a 17" laptop needs to go to a store and look at one in person, they are loving huge. You may reconsider what size you want once you see one for yourself.
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:you could just as easily get like a $250 chrome book to take notes on and watch youtube videos and spend $1250 and build/buy a gaming desktop that will blow literally any gaming laptop on the market completely out of the water Hell, for note taking you can pick up a 7" android tablet and a $30 bluetooth keyboard for $100 shipped these days. Or if you have a 5" phone just use that. An 8lb laptop weighs about as much as a newborn baby. And is about as fragile as one. If you're planning on taking a TV to school, just plug your computer in to that, they both use HDMI. The only remotely fragile thing in a desktop these days is the 3 lb video card + heatsink, and you can pack that separate for the trip. Rotational hard drives are rated to 80 Gs (yes, eighty) when the heads are parked and powered off. Intel CPU sockets have a dynamic load rating of 170lbs.
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# ? Jun 29, 2013 19:39 |
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What's worst about gaming laptops is that Haswell's integrated graphics are so good that you could easily get by with just that and claim to have a "gaming" machine in something light and thin. You just don't get to have the pretentious joy of being able to play AAA titles at 60 fps at max quality, you have to scale back a bunch of settings instead. A real gamer can make do
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QuarkJets posted:What's worst about gaming laptops is that Haswell's integrated graphics are so good that you could easily get by with just that and claim to have a "gaming" machine in something light and thin. You just don't get to have the pretentious joy of being able to play AAA titles at 60 fps at max quality, you have to scale back a bunch of settings instead. This is truth, and one very large difference between this thread and Crackbone's desktop thread is that he will swear up and down that you cannot game on anything less than a 700 series GTX desktop card, while this thread will point out that Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 play just fine on an HD4000 @ 1366x768. Unless your use case is Crysis 3/BF3 all the time on High @ 1080p, you'll find that most games are designed to run just fine @ 720p on medium, and the HD4000 will happily purr along at 30-60fps in most any game at those settings. There are very few games on Steam that won't run @ 30fps on an i5 Sandy Bridge laptop with integrated graphics. Laptops are mobile and full of compromises to meet this requirement, mainly for battery life and heat. If you want a zero compromise gaming laptop, what you really want is a desktop.
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QuarkJets posted:What's worst about gaming laptops is that Haswell's integrated graphics are so good that you could easily get by with just that and claim to have a "gaming" machine in something light and thin. You just don't get to have the pretentious joy of being able to play AAA titles at 60 fps at max quality, you have to scale back a bunch of settings instead. And, trust me--this coming from someone who spent a year carrying around 30-40lbs packs on a daily basis--if you get an 8lbs+ laptop you will stop carrying it to class after the first few weeks unless you are explicitly required to bring it. 8lbs doesn't sound like a lot, but it turns out to be really loving annoying after awhile. If you want to test this, take a gallon of water (8.33lbs) and carry it around for a few days and see what you think.
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Yeah I really don't care about having to lower settings or anything. And thinking about it more I guess you're right about it being to heavy and unwieldy. Although I do know about traveling weighed down by stuff, 8 pounds ain't poo poo. But I guess I'll just go with the lenovo Y500 and build a new machine before star citizen comes out. Being able to take it to school is only one part of the mobility factor. I enjoy the idea of being able to set up basically anywhere instantaneously and be able to start gaming right then and there. You can't take your desktop outside on the patio and set it up every time you want to play outside. NeoSeeker fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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