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wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Flame112 posted:

My trickster said he was hungry enough to eat a horse, and then proceeded to eat an entire horse, whole, as well as two other cows, winning the contest handily.

Nothing is as cool as a Trickster who decides to get serious.

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crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Did Pracians raid you before? Also that art is awesome and that flaming bison is just so cool.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

veekie posted:

Especially if you ran them off like a douchebag. Ducks got bros.
For real.



Look at this smug mother ducker. Just look at him. You know why he's so smug? It's because he knows he's a badass, that's why. Now are you gonna be his friend and turn your area into a badass crater of badassitude or are you gonna be like that loser on the left who's more interested in making quacky motions?

Don't make quacky motions. Be friends with the smug mother duckers.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010





This is apparently the background on the quacking motion. Who are you going to trust, a trickster or the ducks.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Double post: clearly duck tricksters are what is required

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

crazypeltast52 posted:

This is apparently the background on the quacking motion. Who are you going to trust, a trickster or the ducks.

The ducks. They keep us safe from vampires and zombies, while tricksters mostly poop in places poop does not go.

seebs
Apr 23, 2007
God Made Me a Skeptic
I have never seen the female trickster before.

I just wish that, in the "this couple is always fighting loudly" thing, the trickster's answer of "I will sleep with them both, and then they will know the meaning of a bad spouse" were actually an option. Because that was by far the funniest answer.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Mystic Mongol posted:

while tricksters mostly poop in places poop does not go.

They also drool upon women in a manner in which they do not like being drooled upon.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

The Sharmat posted:

They also drool upon women in a manner in which they do not like being drooled upon.

Even the female tricksters do this.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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quote:

The trickster

Did you ever get the full story of when Eurmal married a broom but committed adultery with a post?

Also what did you get from the eating contest?

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



The Sharmat posted:

They also drool upon women in a manner in which they do not like being drooled upon.

For reference:


Also, this cracked me up when it came as advice:


Erm, what?

veekie
Dec 25, 2007

Dice of Chaos

crazypeltast52 posted:

Also, this cracked me up when it came as advice:


Erm, what?

Broo origin story.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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veekie posted:

Broo origin story.

The origin of the "brother we do not name" and the start of the story that leads to the goddess of rape and the birth of the devil.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Yessss. Random event where my splendorbread is stolen; I divine to find out where the gently caress it is, it costs me five magic but the ancestors say "it will be found in a thunderstorm; no harm will befall those who search for it". I send out some combat specialist and a bunch of weaponthanes and get, quite simply, "no-one ever returned" as the result.

I can only imagine they had quite strong words to say to their ancestors once they met them :mad:

Flame112
Apr 21, 2011

Josef bugman posted:

Did you ever get the full story of when Eurmal married a broom but committed adultery with a post?

Also what did you get from the eating contest?

Like 10 goods. Probably not worth losing 3 cows and a horse, but it was still a pretty funny event.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Flame112 posted:

Like 10 goods. Probably not worth losing 3 cows and a horse, but it was still a pretty funny event.

So in other words, even though your Trickster won, your clan lost. Beautiful.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Penguingo posted:

Yessss. Random event where my splendorbread is stolen; I divine to find out where the gently caress it is, it costs me five magic but the ancestors say "it will be found in a thunderstorm; no harm will befall those who search for it". I send out some combat specialist and a bunch of weaponthanes and get, quite simply, "no-one ever returned" as the result.

I can only imagine they had quite strong words to say to their ancestors once they met them :mad:

It probably got stolen by a clan who was way cooler than you and all your thanes went and joined it and are too embarrassed to tell you.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Flame112 posted:

Like 10 goods. Probably not worth losing 3 cows and a horse, but it was still a pretty funny event.


That's a net double in value, and goods are nearly as fungible than cows. (Certainly more than horses!)

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

BlindGuy posted:

I beg to differ with regard to divinations outside of events. They're a good indicator of a number of things it's hard to gauge otherwise, such as clan strength. Keep getting creamed by one clan in particular? Ask the knowing god.

The fact that you are getting creamed has already revealed they are stronger than you.

quote:

Similarly, clan attitude is a good one to ask about on occasion: did these guys just raid me for the hell of it or is there a feud brewing? I realize it's entirely possible to get a sense for all these things without the sacrifice, but I figure the information is there so may as well take advantage of it.

The colour of clans on the map reveals their disposition towards you.

Although having said that, allies will remain blue no matter what, which can be camouflage if you're pissing them off. I once had an allied clan declare a feud with me.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Coolguye posted:

For real.



Look at this smug mother ducker. Just look at him. You know why he's so smug? It's because he knows he's a badass, that's why. Now are you gonna be his friend and turn your area into a badass crater of badassitude or are you gonna be like that loser on the left who's more interested in making quacky motions?

Don't make quacky motions. Be friends with the smug mother duckers.

One of my favourite moments in the game is when the ducks ask to join your tribe, and a little ways down the options there's something like:

4. Refuse them.
5. Refuse them; tell this funny story at the moot.

I just love the idea that the various clans bond over their shared derision of the ducks.

You've also gotta love the guy breaking the fourth wall in the top right corner.

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.
I love the event where the duck champion comes in and basically goes "We ducks are sick of your poo poo. I am a badass humakti warrior, I challenge your war chief to a duel." Then he usually fuckin' guts your prize warrior like a hog. Don't gently caress with the ducks.

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

Dred Cosmonaut posted:

I love the event where the duck champion comes in and basically goes "We ducks are sick of your poo poo. I am a badass humakti warrior, I challenge your war chief to a duel." Then he usually fuckin' guts your prize warrior like a hog. Don't gently caress with the ducks.

Yeah, the "best" you can do in that duel is to kill the duck at the same time he kills you. He's got a badass Humakti enchantment on him that means he'll kill the next warrior he fights. Even getting that usually takes Heroic combat and a lot of luck. Don't gently caress with the Ducks.

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?
I got to train triceratops as war mounts today. Today is a good day.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Fungah! posted:

Yeah, the "best" you can do in that duel is to kill the duck at the same time he kills you. He's got a badass Humakti enchantment on him that means he'll kill the next warrior he fights. Even getting that usually takes Heroic combat and a lot of luck. Don't gently caress with the Ducks.

Seriously? I beat him all the time. I get cut in half a lot too, but it's definitely not impossible to win and keep your own champion alive.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

I got to train triceratops as war mounts today. Today is a good day.

Good followup for this is to Raid every day and every season*. You're invincible!

*Don't do this**

**I did it and regret nothing.

Dominated all my neighbours for few years and became wealthiest & mightiest clan in Dragon Pass.
Then the lizards died & and I was raided to oblivion by everyone. In single season.

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

freebooter posted:

Seriously? I beat him all the time. I get cut in half a lot too, but it's definitely not impossible to win and keep your own champion alive.

Huh, every time I've tried dueling him he cuts my rear end in half. Never had that duel go well. Eventually I just stopped trying.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Fungah! posted:

Yeah, the "best" you can do in that duel is to kill the duck at the same time he kills you. He's got a badass Humakti enchantment on him that means he'll kill the next warrior he fights. Even getting that usually takes Heroic combat and a lot of luck. Don't gently caress with the Ducks.

Nope, the prophecy around the duck is he'll kill the next person he fights to first blood. But a proper humakti duel to the death is a normal test of skill. Ducks are hardcore.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Demiurge4 posted:

Nope, the prophecy around the duck is he'll kill the next person he fights to first blood. But a proper humakti duel to the death is a normal test of skill. Ducks are hardcore.

Can you discover this? Or is it part of the event text?

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

sebmojo posted:

Can you discover this? Or is it part of the event text?

Divination. Remember they are humakti, a fight to first blood is against their creed and humakt will punish anyone foolish enough to pussy put like that.

BlindGuy
Feb 27, 2011

The Prophet

freebooter posted:

The fact that you are getting creamed has already revealed they are stronger than you.


The colour of clans on the map reveals their disposition towards you.


Not if you're blind like me it doesn't. ;) To be fair, that and the map are the two least accessible bits of this game, but I still manage to do all right. VoiceOver = lovely built-in playingfield leveler.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

I'm still amazed they went through quite the effort to make the game blind-accessible.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Wait - really? How does that work? That's awesome, though.

Edit- although it kind of sucks if they have made it blind accessible but leaving out critical stuff like clan colour on the map. That stuff's important!

Uberskooper
Apr 30, 2007
Skoops up goood

Fungah! posted:

Yeah, the "best" you can do in that duel is to kill the duck at the same time he kills you. He's got a badass Humakti enchantment on him that means he'll kill the next warrior he fights. Even getting that usually takes Heroic combat and a lot of luck. Don't gently caress with the Ducks.

I have actually killed the duck without my ring member getting killed himself. My Hamakti said he could take the duck on. He had pretty good combat skills ("excellent" I think).

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

drat, started playing yesterday and I don't have the slightest loving idea of what I'm doing, even after reading the manual and the first few updates of both LPs. :shepface:

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I'm 20 years in my latest game and never before have I failed so many heroquests. Out of like 5 of them, I've succeeded at one. Despite having tons of magic in reserve, dedicating magic to quests, and doing ones that I have the details AND secrets of. The lack of a trickster is hurting pretty bad I suppose. Also I keep getting hit with droughts because of that dick Daga, so while my reputation is great, I have no way of forming a tribe because I have no gifts to give.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Greenslash is the Humakti duck you guys are thinking about. His entire story can be understood by a sufficiently skilled magician, who will tell you "He is a Humakti Deathlord on a heroquest. This is going to end in death." I believe he then highlights "refuse".

Attempting to duel him to first blood means his heroquest makes itself known and his opponent gets butchered. If you simply permit the duel, someone will die, but it's not always your noble - it can also be Greenslash.

freebooter posted:

The fact that you are getting creamed has already revealed they are stronger than you.
This is not true. Your clan is fairly reliable on the battlefield, but other clans aren't always. A sufficiently experienced war leader will mention this occasionally if you get asked to join a raid by a neighbor, saying "The (clan name)s are unpredictable on the battlefield. Sometimes they fight fiercely, other times poorly." A divination can give you an idea of if this is a high variance clan that just got lucky.

quote:

The colour of clans on the map reveals their disposition towards you.
Yeah but the only ones that matter are deep-pink-about-to-be-red and light-purple-cos-we-love-you. The middle two colors basically tell you gently caress-all because Orlanthi are Storm People.

That said, I'd prefer to use my turns just making myself so badass that nobody wants to mess with me, but, you know, play styles.

Lewd Mangabey
Jun 2, 2011
"What sort of ape?" asked Stephen.
"A damned ill-conditioned sort of an ape. It had a can of ale at every pot-house on the road, and is reeling drunk. It has been offering itself to Babbington."
I played this several times a million years ago when it first came out, and have been meaning to revisit it ever since the iOS version came out. I also see that there's a GOG version that is presumably the legacy version updated to run.

I prefer gaming on my PC to my iPad, so I'm inclined to go for the GOG version. What are the opinions here on the GOG version vs. iOS? Are the new updates to iOS worth it? Any major bug fixes that I won't find on the GOG version?

I looked for this topic in the OP and in the last few pages, and didn't see it explicitly discussed.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Lewd Mangabey posted:

I played this several times a million years ago when it first came out, and have been meaning to revisit it ever since the iOS version came out. I also see that there's a GOG version that is presumably the legacy version updated to run.

I prefer gaming on my PC to my iPad, so I'm inclined to go for the GOG version. What are the opinions here on the GOG version vs. iOS? Are the new updates to iOS worth it? Any major bug fixes that I won't find on the GOG version?

I looked for this topic in the OP and in the last few pages, and didn't see it explicitly discussed.

I'm not really comfortable calling one or the other better, really.

The iOS version is cool because it has more events, which are the real reason anyone plays KoDP, and they get rid of a number of fiddly things you didn't have any real control over, like sheep. In PC, sheep are a lesser animal that you have and their function is basically to keep you from getting too many temples too quickly. If you build too many temples, your sheep herds won't repopulate fast enough, and you'll lose a lot of time and energy to your traders making emergency deals for sheep until your temples eventually fall into disrepair due to lack of sacrifices. But again, you as a player have zero direct control over this. You can't trade for sheep or do anything to encourage their growth, you can only make sure your temples aren't overpredating them. This is pretty lame, so getting rid of that is not a bad thing.

The iOS version got a little too happy with the cutting knife, though, in my opinion. A lot of fluff is gone from the game itself and a lot of the lesser-used gods can't even be built to anymore. I see why they did it, there are a number of gods that are pretty hard to justify the cost of a temple for. But on the flip side, the sheer badassery of the Orlanthi pantheon is a lot of what makes this game and setting so cool, so you lose some of that in the shuffle.

I personally prefer the PC version, but that is because that's the one I'm most accustomed to. I've played probably 20 games on PC. I've played only 2 on iOS.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Lewd Mangabey posted:

I played this several times a million years ago when it first came out, and have been meaning to revisit it ever since the iOS version came out. I also see that there's a GOG version that is presumably the legacy version updated to run.

I prefer gaming on my PC to my iPad, so I'm inclined to go for the GOG version. What are the opinions here on the GOG version vs. iOS? Are the new updates to iOS worth it? Any major bug fixes that I won't find on the GOG version?

I looked for this topic in the OP and in the last few pages, and didn't see it explicitly discussed.

The ipad version is gorgeous, benefits from all the patching and additional missions they've been putting in, and makes fantastic use of the hardware. But you don't get the cool village map (there were practical difficulties in translating it across, it was apparently implemented in a very weird and intricate way) and a bunch of stuff that had minimal impact on play has been refined away.

I don't think the PC version is super buggy or anything, but it's definitely a few patches behind the ios version because they don't have the ability to patch the pc version any more.

On balance I'd definitely go with the ipad. Or hell, buy both - it's so rare you get a game this old where you can give money straight to the original creator.

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neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

Coolguye posted:

The iOS version got a little too happy with the cutting knife, though, in my opinion. A lot of fluff is gone from the game itself and a lot of the lesser-used gods can't even be built to anymore. I see why they did it, there are a number of gods that are pretty hard to justify the cost of a temple for. But on the flip side, the sheer badassery of the Orlanthi pantheon is a lot of what makes this game and setting so cool, so you lose some of that in the shuffle.

Which shrineables were cut? I don't recall missing any.

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