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The Sharmat: Sep 5, 2011; by Lowtax

I just wish they'd add the new events to the PC version somehow.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 03:19

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 15:23

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

I wish someone would do another LP.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 03:28

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

The Sharmat posted:

I just wish they'd add the new events to the PC version somehow.

They can't, they don't have the dev environment any more.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 04:00

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

VisAbsoluta posted:

drat, started playing yesterday and I don't have the slightest loving idea of what I'm doing, even after reading the manual and the first few updates of both LPs.

Don't worry about running your first couple of clans into the ground. The game has a lot of poo poo that's best learned by experience, particularly the Orlanthi culture stuff that informs your decisions in events. The most unintuitive things are farming(increase farmland beyond what your advisors say, ignore their whining) and understanding how disposable/useful particular nobles are based on stats - high leadership is important on your clan leader & on your warleader but nobody else really needs it(and it can actually be a bad thing if someone has higher leadership than your leader), high combat is important on warleader(and used in exploration, but exploratory nobles are disposable by default), you'll want at least two solid bargainers(one to go do trades, one to give trade advice in events), high magic is useful on everybody, plants and animals are nice to have but not really important, and you only need one person with high custom.

Other than that, just remember to never piss off the ducks. They have friends that can wreck your poo poo.

freebooter posted:

I wish someone would do another LP.

_{(There may be plans.)}

# ? Jul 1, 2013 04:06

Vaga42Bond: Apr 10, 2009; Die Essensrationen wurden verdoppelt!
Die Anzahl der Torpedos wurde verdoppelt!

VisAbsoluta posted:

drat, started playing yesterday and I don't have the slightest loving idea of what I'm doing, even after reading the manual and the first few updates of both LPs.

Quite alright, some of us have been playing quite awhile, and STILL don't have a drat clue, even after the Walktopus calmly explains to us things are going to hell in a basket. :haw:

Haifisch posted:

_{(There may be plans.)}

Clan Chaos Cultist and the Bland King will rise once more? :haw:

# ? Jul 1, 2013 04:55

Flame112: Apr 21, 2011

I want someone to LP the iOS version for once.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 05:10

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

It would be a pain in the rear end to keep screenshotting from a phone and exporting it onto a computer, though.

I'd like a new LP because the actual LP archive doesn't record the comments of anybody in the thread except the guy running the show, and the whole point is that it's a communal thing.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 05:40

cock hero flux: Apr 17, 2011

freebooter posted:

It would be a pain in the rear end to keep screenshotting from a phone and exporting it onto a computer, though.

I'd like a new LP because the actual LP archive doesn't record the comments of anybody in the thread except the guy running the show, and the whole point is that it's a communal thing.

I think it does link to the thread, though.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 06:35

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Dauntasa posted:

I think it does link to the thread, though.

Also, for the most recent one, Haifisch was really good about getting the lore posts and such archived as well.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 11:45

The Sharmat: Sep 5, 2011; by Lowtax

Haifisch: I've got a clan leader right now that's mediocre except for a pretty good bargaining stat and I think it's actually being put to use. I'm doing surprisingly well at resolving events in terms of "Convince them that they're wrong" than I've done in the past, which compensates for a lot of his other issues. But maybe it's just luck and my imagination.

Which is something I love about this game. They put so much behind the curtain. It's done masterfully and really aids your immersion. I'm sure the stuff going on under the hood isn't nearly as complex as it seems, but it really forces the player to weave stories from the events that simply may not even be there.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 12:10

andrew smash: Jun 26, 2006; smooth soul

freebooter posted:

It would be a pain in the rear end to keep screenshotting from a phone and exporting it onto a computer, though.

I'd like a new LP because the actual LP archive doesn't record the comments of anybody in the thread except the guy running the show, and the whole point is that it's a communal thing.

I don't think it would be as hard as you think to do that. You can set up an iphone or iPad to automatically dump new photos to dropbox and screenshots are trivial to take.

That being said I really wish it would get ported to android cause I don't have an ios device anymore.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 12:11

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

Speaking of which, had a new event today I've never seen before:

I like the fact that they're colouring them now - all the other new events I've had for ios, when they weren't recycling old images, were in black and white. Although I think they always had to do with dreams so maybe that was deliberate. You can tell it's not the same artist, but it still looks pretty neat.

It's a shame that so far all the new events are of the fairly mundane variety, though; I'd love to see some more that are just really unique and weird, and some more that spark off event chains (like that insanely long multi-generational feud about the horse).

# ? Jul 1, 2013 14:37

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

Ugh, that loving horse event-chain.

I mean, don't get me wrong. It's loving amazing the first time you see it, and it has some okay replay value.

But jesus nothing else has ever made me hate old ladies as much as that loving horse.

Get over it, you old biddies!

# ? Jul 1, 2013 14:47

Coolguye: Jul 6, 2011; Required by his programming!

I thought at least Odalya was gone from the iOS shrines - is that not accurate?

# ? Jul 1, 2013 15:01

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Coolguye posted:

I thought at least Odalya was gone from the iOS shrines - is that not accurate?

Nope, still there.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 15:40

Mystic Stylez: Dec 19, 2009

Haifisch posted:

The most unintuitive things are farming(increase farmland beyond what your advisors say, ignore their whining)

How exactly would I do this?

Coolguye posted:

I thought at least Odalya was gone from the iOS shrines - is that not accurate?

As in not being able to build a temple for him, etc? Because I just checked and you can.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 15:42

Project1: Dec 30, 2003; it's time

andrew smash posted:

That being said I really wish it would get ported to android cause I don't have an ios device anymore.

"Android users are all pirates", or words to that effect.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 15:59

The Sharmat: Sep 5, 2011; by Lowtax

It's not piracy. It's a licensing raid.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 16:03

andrew smash: Jun 26, 2006; smooth soul

Project1 posted:

"Android users are all pirates", or words to that effect.

Two years ago he might have had a point about it not being worth it but people are making money off of gplay now. Still won't ever happen.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 16:25

WhitemageofDOOM: Sep 13, 2010; ... It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit.

Project1 posted:

"Android users are all pirates", or words to that effect.

As massive a pirate i may be, i would like to give them my :10bux:

# ? Jul 1, 2013 17:05

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

This game is amazing to me as an academic. That detail about gay Humaktis makes so much sense in the context of "The Future is Kids Stuff" by Edelman (basically Queer Ethics is about destroying reproduction and death and poo poo), the Pharaoh is a fantastic example of a Sahlinsian Stranger King, it's all so fantastic.

I'd consider doing a KODP LP but i'd really want to show off a MAX HUNTING clan and that would basically require making GBS threads all over the participation element since voters are all basically grayn-lyfe.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 17:14

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

It's easy to see that the setting was written by an Anthropologist, not just a fantasy fan.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 17:16

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

andrew smash posted:

I don't think it would be as hard as you think to do that. You can set up an iphone or iPad to automatically dump new photos to dropbox and screenshots are trivial to take.

That being said I really wish it would get ported to android cause I don't have an ios device anymore.

Same here. I don't have an iOS device, but KODP on android would ensure I never got anything done at work again. :v:

VisAbsoluta posted:

How exactly would I do this?

This screen lets you adjust the proportion of cropland(used for crops), pasture(used for cattle), and forest(used for hunting & keeping elves happy; also makes it harder to see incoming invaders in time) - I don't know exactly what it looks like on iOS, but it should be similar. Your nobles will tell you a rough estimate of how much cropland & pasture you need, but they tend to underestimate pasture requirements and their cropland numbers are really just what you can have while keeping your carls happiest and healthiest(but it's not a huge penalty if you go over that number, which is why you should ignore it).

# ? Jul 1, 2013 17:32

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Tulip posted:

This game is amazing to me as an academic. That detail about gay Humaktis makes so much sense in the context of "The Future is Kids Stuff" by Edelman (basically Queer Ethics is about destroying reproduction and death and poo poo), the Pharaoh is a fantastic example of a Sahlinsian Stranger King, it's all so fantastic.

I'd consider doing a KODP LP but i'd really want to show off a MAX HUNTING clan and that would basically require making GBS threads all over the participation element since voters are all basically grayn-lyfe.

Just do it as an anthropological study LP, I'd seriously love to watch someone explain all the cool additional details you see in Glorantha from that sort of perspective.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:30

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Josef bugman posted:

Just do it as an anthropological study LP, I'd seriously love to watch someone explain all the cool additional details you see in Glorantha from that sort of perspective.

I second this. There's some serious lore in this setting, and we already have two goon-run clan LPs

# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:48

Safety Biscuits: Oct 21, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

Just do it as an anthropological study LP, I'd seriously love to watch someone explain all the cool additional details you see in Glorantha from that sort of perspective.

Yeah, this would be great. It's not just anthropology - Sandy Petersen trained as a biologist (or ecologist?) which influenced how the tribes of Prax and the trolls developed.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:50

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Josef bugman posted:

Just do it as an anthropological study LP, I'd seriously love to watch someone explain all the cool additional details you see in Glorantha from that sort of perspective.

You can go right to the source and pick up the Stafford Library books of Gloranthan documents, like King of Sartar, the Glorious Re-Ascent of Yelm, the Entekosiad, and the like (especially The Book of Heortling Mythology). Greg's not a formal anthropologist, but he is a tremendous nerd for mythology and shamanism and the like, and it really shows in his world-design and his writing (which is miles away from the pseudo-Greek/Norse/Egyptian pantheons of opposed good and evil gods who fight like the Superfriends vs. the Legion of Doom that you find in most other fantasy settings).

# ? Jul 1, 2013 20:50

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

Josef bugman posted:

Just do it as an anthropological study LP, I'd seriously love to watch someone explain all the cool additional details you see in Glorantha from that sort of perspective.

Tulip you must do this. I was just thinking today that I really really wish there was a Glorantha lore thread going on.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:00

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

Penguingo posted:

Tulip you must do this. I was just thinking today that I really really wish there was a Glorantha lore thread going on.

Goddammit dude i was just musing. I also am not remotely a Glorantha lore expert, since that requires having physical copies of books that are not typically found in university libraries.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:04

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

Yeah but a Glorantha thread attracts Glorantha spergs, like moths to a flame.

In other news,

freebooter posted:

Speaking of which, had a new event today I've never seen before:

I don't think I've ever explored other tulas. Am I missing out by not doing this?

# ? Jul 1, 2013 21:09

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Tulip posted:

Goddammit dude i was just musing. I also am not remotely a Glorantha lore expert, since that requires having physical copies of books that are not typically found in university libraries.

Not necessarily glorantha lore, you could do real world lore so that it all fits together and then get the various Goon proffesors of glorantha studies to come in and do a quick slide show.

Plus all of the Glorious re-ascent of Yelm and the Heortling stuff is on Drive thru RPG for quite cheap.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 22:04

fez_machine: Nov 27, 2004

Here are the best resources for Gloranthan lore:

The Official Guide to Glorantha: http://moondesignpublications.com/page/guide-glorantha.
Every good book published about Glorantha is available in PDF here: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=79
This page and subsequent links is really great as well: http://moondesignpublications.com/page/glorantha
In fact digging through all of the Moon Design Publications website is great for lore tidbits.
Plus there's a really active Google+ site about Glorantha which includes a lot of detail from the guide: http://plus.google.com/communities/102577244714186267235

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jul 1, 2013

# ? Jul 1, 2013 22:35

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

I just got over 50 magic from a random event that killed my 18-year old Renowned Combat Vingan warleader. I have no idea how to feel right now :psyduck:

# ? Jul 1, 2013 22:57

Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Random event? What the hell was it "vinga shows up and asks the lady if she wants to join up and gives you a gently caress tonne of magic for it?"

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:05

BlindGuy: Feb 27, 2011; The Prophet

freebooter posted:

Wait - really? How does that work? That's awesome, though.

Edit- although it kind of sucks if they have made it blind accessible but leaving out critical stuff like clan colour on the map. That stuff's important!

Preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I've been asking David about this kind of stuff since before the game was officially accessible. He claims the coloration is not as precise a measurement as all that, and internally is a composite of a number of factors.

I don't know, I just use the knowing god and gifts galore as often as I can. But yeah, over all I'm ridiculously pleased with the game.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:26

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

Josef bugman posted:

Random event? What the hell was it "vinga shows up and asks the lady if she wants to join up and gives you a gently caress tonne of magic for it?"

She got a terrible curse-sickness and with her last breath asked us to recite some poem to nearby clans so that her kids wouldn't get the same curse. Disregarding the fact that an eighteen year old Vingan probably has less kids than most Humatki, I went ahead and spread her poem about.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:26

BlindGuy: Feb 27, 2011; The Prophet

Double post: I had a new scene, though am not sure if it was in this update or an earlier one.

Someone came to sell me duck eggs. I bought them, and the ducks came demanding them back. We refused, and attacked the weird duck Humakti who wounded everybody before being struck down by our chief. The ducks turned the eggs into giant unhatched stink bombs.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:29

Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Penguingo posted:

She got a terrible curse-sickness and with her last breath asked us to recite some poem to nearby clans so that her kids wouldn't get the same curse. Disregarding the fact that an eighteen year old Vingan probably has less kids than most Humatki, I went ahead and spread her poem about.

Ohhhhh that is a bad/good event. It shows up when you have someone who is fantastically good at something but the game needs to get rid of them. The amount of magic is always massive.

Also speaking of this has made me by the Heortling mythology book and I still can't help but smile when it describes how trickster seduces "A century old virgin priestess, 12 leper women and a grizzly bear".

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:42

The Sharmat: Sep 5, 2011; by Lowtax

Penguingo posted:

She got a terrible curse-sickness and with her last breath asked us to recite some poem to nearby clans so that her kids wouldn't get the same curse. Disregarding the fact that an eighteen year old Vingan probably has less kids than most Humatki, I went ahead and spread her poem about.

I got this very same event with an Ernalda worshiper, but I didn't get any magic out of it. The poem just impressed the poo poo out of the other clans.

# ? Jul 1, 2013 23:43

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 15:23

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

BlindGuy posted:

Double post: I had a new scene, though am not sure if it was in this update or an earlier one.

Someone came to sell me duck eggs. I bought them, and the ducks came demanding them back. We refused, and attacked the weird duck Humakti who wounded everybody before being struck down by our chief. The ducks turned the eggs into giant unhatched stink bombs.

Oh my god that's fantastic.

# ? Jul 2, 2013 00:06

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